Lunexia 2024-10-02 12:02 p.m.

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Lunexia pinned a message to this channel. 2024-10-02 12:02 p.m.

hiiiiiiiiiiiiiii !!

12:10 p.m.

nice to be back after a swurtle moment

12:11 p.m.

/srs

No private chats

️

12:13 p.m.

Im very weak at botc mechs

12:19 p.m.

If anyone has played botc

12:19 p.m.

then come forward and guide us

12:19 p.m.

First

no ur 4th

Also what’s a bitch

12:20 p.m.

Autocorrect

‍♂️

Both

12:20 p.m.

Botc

12:20 p.m.

**

Kazuma

Also what’s a bitch

⭐

kaz uses the word "bitch" frequently

12:20 p.m.

got it

Kazuma

Botc

um

12:21 p.m.

What's the name of the setup?

Free's Main

What's the name of the setup?

bro did not read the signup OR the info channel

12:21 p.m.

gg

12:21 p.m.

go next

ur referring to kaz right?

12:22 p.m.

Kazuma

Also what’s a bitch

assuming he asked "what;s a botc"

12:23 p.m.

anyways

The set up looks fun

12:23 p.m.

I might actually try this time

Kazuma

The set up looks fun

are you evil?

12:23 p.m.

kaz slipped

12:23 p.m.

ggs

Yep

cuz

12:23 p.m.

only evil roles are fun

12:23 p.m.

Oh wait

12:24 p.m.

Fliplless

12:24 p.m.

Nvm this sucks

oh shii

12:24 p.m.

Ohhhhh

12:24 p.m.

This is like that game that icet hosted a while back

12:25 p.m.

I hated that game

icet was minion

12:25 p.m.

I mean most of the evil were pro botc players

12:25 p.m.

so

‍♂️

12:26 p.m.

this is my 2nd botc game (if you consider the game lily hosted)

12:26 p.m.

and the roles are wayy too diff

12:26 p.m.

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icet was minion

Who hosted that game then

Kazuma

Who hosted that game then

lily

Ohh

man

12:26 p.m.

evils played perfectly that game

12:27 p.m.

without losing a single

12:27 p.m.

teammate

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and the roles are wayy too diff

That setup lowkey was fun, only had to worry about the other two people opposite me

Kazuma

That setup lowkey was fun, only had to worry about the other two people opposite me

12:28 p.m.

red lady

Free's Main

evils played perfectly that game

Funny thing is icet whispered to me that he was evil and I thought he was joking

Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy.

53R0 (Zero)

Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy.

12:30 p.m.

wow

12:30 p.m.

lucas and cheetah are cleared

Theres usually private chats in botc and also dead votes so

12:31 p.m.

virgin is a tf

12:31 p.m.

Still

12:31 p.m.

WiFi died

12:31 p.m.

E

12:31 p.m.

E!

12:31 p.m.

hi gays

Free's Main

lucas and cheetah are cleared

unless one of em is spy ofc

That isn't how Chef works tho

That_Amnesiac

That isn't how Chef works tho

?

53R0 (Zero)

Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy.

Do we actually have to worry about neighbors here

no

12:32 p.m.

you dont get what I mean

If ur EVIL ur neighbors are good

Kazuma

Do we actually have to worry about neighbors here

Yes.

If ur good the chef zero means nothing about ur neighbors

12:33 p.m.

If ur an empath y learn info on ur neighbors

Oh right

I got that confused

That_Amnesiac

If ur EVIL ur neighbors are good

see the playerlist lol

Virgin is also a -1 outsider but

why did I specifically say that cheetah and lucas are not evils?

12:33 p.m.

‍♂️

Ohh okay so unless one of them is spy, cheetah and Lucas are good

12:33 p.m.

That’s good to know

ouhe

I see now

12:34 p.m.

WELL

3 clears immediately

damn kaz

12:34 p.m.

you still dont get it

My role is actually so much worse than what it is in actual botc

Free's Main

you still dont get it

What’s happening

That_Amnesiac

If ur EVIL ur neighbors are good

..

my info is so useless

Free's Main

kaz slipped

..

Free's Main

..

This is why roles might mis register instead of auto registering

Kazuma

What’s happening

I thought that was implied obviously

That_Amnesiac

This is why roles might mis register instead of auto registering

Oh what

bruhhh !!

12:36 p.m.

oh dear...

Free's Main

Oh what

In botc roles don't 100% misreg

12:36 p.m.

Ur not an outsider if you confirm both of your neighbors are good

12:36 p.m.

.

That_Amnesiac

If ur good the chef zero means nothing about ur neighbors

I have many confusions

12:37 p.m.

Why does no one get it

I mean them outting doesnt really matter

Free's Main

Why does no one get it

I do

Explain for the rest of the class then

That_Amnesiac

I do

then explain it to kaz

They're claiming recluse

12:38 p.m.

Chef number is a 0

12:38 p.m.

Recluse neighbors confirmed good

That_Amnesiac

In botc roles don't 100% misreg

I completely understand how chef works

But didn’t he say he claims chef

12:39 p.m.

Who is the recluse

12:40 p.m.

Also isnt recluse not town

That_Amnesiac

Recluse neighbors confirmed good

since when was cheetah/lucas my neighbours

12:40 p.m.

Kazuma

Also isnt recluse not town

outsiders win with town

I see I see

Recluse You are seen as evil during investigations. You cannot show up in the Washerwoman's results. You cannot show up in the Librarian's results. You can show up as a random Minion role to the Investigator, except for the Spy role. You will add additional evil pairings in the chef's results if you are seated next to evil players. You can make an empath think he is seated next to an evil player. You always show up as the Demon to the Fortune Teller. You show up as a random Minion role to the Undertaker. When targeted by the Ravenkeeper, you will be announced as the Demon. If you are poisoned, then all of these effects are disabled during that night and the following day.

12:41 p.m.

they're town

Kazuma

I see I see

12:42 p.m.

I still don’t get it

(Now we watch me just be poisoned n0 and everything is horrid : D)

53R0 (Zero)

(Now we watch me just be poisoned n0 and everything is horrid : D)

W

12:50 p.m.

there are like 3 evils

12:52 p.m.

If poisoned on night 0, your result will be any number of pairings from 0 to 5 which is not the actual number.

12:52 p.m.

even if you count recluse - the max number you can get is 3

Sup

Free's Main

even if you count recluse - the max number you can get is 3

If you get 4 or 5 then its confirmed that the poisoner poisoned you ig

12:53 p.m.

too bad that you got 0

12:53 p.m.

if you were poisoneda*

I got information. Both vee and sprigatito are NOT a demon

huh

12:55 p.m.

btw

12:55 p.m.

I replaced me

12:55 p.m.

vee

12:55 p.m.

*

Ok soill correct myself

12:56 p.m.

Free and sprigatito are not demons

Kazuma

I still don’t get it

12:57 p.m.

cheetah and lucas are ur neighboura

12:57 p.m.

s*

12:57 p.m.

and you aren't recluse, are you?

12:58 p.m.

and I cleared both of em

12:58 p.m.

so what does this mean

12:58 p.m.

That I’m not evil?

1:01 p.m.

How’d you clear both of them

1:02 p.m.

Wait

1:03 p.m.

Are you recluse

Kazuma

How’d you clear both of them

there are only 2 possibilities

Kazuma

Are you recluse

allan just proved that I cant be recluse

Free's Main

there are only 2 possibilities

Which are…

Free's Main

there are only 2 possibilities

either you three are town or the middle person is scum

1:04 p.m.

and I think its the latter

Free's Main

either you three are town or the middle person is scum

I see I see

Free's Main

allan just proved that I cant be recluse

No i said you are not a DEMON meaning the imp. Theres still a chance your recluse

Free's Main

and I think its the latter

Why?

allan gamesyt

No i said you are not a DEMON meaning the imp. Theres still a chance your recluse

read ur role please

Wait ok

1:05 p.m.

Yea your right

1:05 p.m.

Your not recluse cause recluse shows up as demon

1:06 p.m.

I stand corrected

Kazuma

Why?

there's a good chance that ur scum

1:06 p.m.

what's ur role again

1:06 p.m.

Free's Main

there's a good chance that ur scum

That doesn’t answer da question

Free's Main

what's ur role again

Nuh uh

Kazuma

That doesn’t answer da question

It does

1:06 p.m.

who's the middle person - its you

Free's Main

there's a good chance that ur scum

Why

Free's Main

It does

It doesn’t, I asked why you think I’m evil and you just said “there’s a good chance”

Kazuma

Why

cuz

1:07 p.m.

I have info

1:07 p.m.

W

Then I have to ask why again

now reveal ur role

1:07 p.m.

else death

Lol

1:08 p.m.

I just read saint

1:08 p.m.

Wish I got that

Kazuma

Wish I got that

you lose???

1:09 p.m.

along w town

1:09 p.m.

then

Free's Main

now reveal ur role

Nuh uh, I’ll die anyway

Kazuma

Nuh uh, I’ll die anyway

why

Free's Main

you lose???

Then gg

monk is there to protect ya

1:09 p.m.

well er

1:09 p.m.

I'd prefer monk to be on allan

Well i practically claimed my role so i need protection XD

Free's Main

monk is there to protect ya

Oh yeah

1:10 p.m.

Im the undertaker

1:10 p.m.

Kazuma

Im the undertaker

uhh

1:11 p.m.

its a provable role uk

So yeah spam prot me and we win

I hope you arent faking it

Free's Main

I'd prefer monk to be on allan

What’s allan

Kazuma

What’s allan

fortune teller

I see I see

anyways

Free's Main

I hope you arent faking it

Im not dumb

time to reveal my role

Kazuma

Im not dumb

Ik

1:12 p.m.

I feel bad for targeting you ugh

Free's Main

time to reveal my role

@Kazuma or is it fine if I reveal after everyone talks?

1:13 p.m.

I barely know what’s happening you’re asking the wrong person

1:13 p.m.

But wait ig

I have really good info tho

1:14 p.m.

and we have only 1 tp

1:14 p.m.

sigh

1:14 p.m.

@Alive Line SP talk

Sit on it for a while

1:14 p.m.

Until chat is active

yep, planning to do that

Ill talk more later im in school rn

sprig zero coal allan fish free lucas cheetah amnesiac stella

1:17 p.m.

that's 10

1:17 p.m.

wait ugh

1:17 p.m.

I missed kaz

1:17 p.m.

sprig zero coal allan fish free lucas kaz cheetah amnesiac stella

Kazuma

So yeah spam prot me and we win

Unless the Monk doesn't exist then we just lose FacepalmLmao

sprig - (not recluse nor demon) zero - chef coal allan - ft fish free - (will claim soon) (not recluse nor demon) lucas kaz - undertaker cheetah amnesiac stella

53R0 (Zero)

Unless the Monk doesn't exist then we just lose FacepalmLmao

Undertaker dying sucks and them claiming D1 is scary

well

1:20 p.m.

my info was like that

1:20 p.m.

didnt expect em to be undertaker

1:20 p.m.

welp

1:21 p.m.

and amne softed ig

Though TBF this could be a 2 day solve with the roles we have claimed

That_Amnesiac

my info is so useless

do you mind revealing?

53R0 (Zero)

Though TBF this could be a 2 day solve with the roles we have claimed

true

1:23 p.m.

but uh

1:23 p.m.

Your team receives an amount of bluffs equal to the amount of minions in the game, these bluffs are random Town and Outsider roles not in the game. These bluffs can also not be the role that the Drunk sees himself as or the personal bluff the Spy receives.

1:23 p.m.

IMP

1:24 p.m.

and if there's a spy then the demon and their minions will have a personal bluff on their own

Free's Main

and if there's a spy then the demon and their minions will have a personal bluff on their own

of*

1:25 p.m.

anyways

1:25 p.m.

recluse shud claim here right?

1:25 p.m.

it clears 2 of em

Recluse should theoretically claim, as if evils do it they actually help town

1:26 p.m.

Cause assuming I'm not poisoned, if an evil claims it they basically just slipped lol

evils have their buff so

1:27 p.m.

they wouldnt risk imo

1:27 p.m.

and stick to their bluff

1:28 p.m.

and you could be evil too, who knows

1:28 p.m.

‍♂️

I've played BOTC before as evil and it's a actually pretty good to not stick to your bluffs as you can make people reveal things they normally wouldn't

1:29 p.m.

idk

I'm just saying, it's what can happen

I doubt there would be any cc in this game tho

1:30 p.m.

lol

1:31 p.m.

ah well

1:31 p.m.

I dont wanna wait any longer

1:31 p.m.

53R0 (Zero)

Recluse should theoretically claim, as if evils do it they actually help town

@Alive Line SP recluse claim please (btw outsiders wincon is to win with town[if you guys didnt know])

Yeah I thought you already claimed that like 30 mins ago lol

1:33 p.m.

Or at least softef

? nah

1:34 p.m.

I cant be recluse

1:34 p.m.

allan just proved

Oh wait I read that wrong

1:34 p.m.

Never mind me

1:34 p.m.

I'll at least claim my role (for safety reasons)

1:35 p.m.

Im investigator

1:35 p.m.

and I'll claim my info once the chat gets going

1:35 p.m.

(you might have some idea on it based on my prev convos)

53R0 (Zero)

Never mind me

do you think its good for people to claim early?

1:36 p.m.

Free's Main

and I'll claim my info once the chat gets going

I really dont think that I've been poisoned

If they have N0 info only or recluse they should claim today

N0 looks like NO lol

Nobody else (should of) but we already had that happen so no turning back the clock

1:37 p.m.

Okay Night 0 then -3-

but yeah

1:42 p.m.

btw do you receive feedback of ur actions even on the same night you die?

If you die you get nothing

Oh

1:49 p.m.

rip

that's why I said losing Undertaker sucks

@Kazuma ur sacrifice wont be in vain

1:50 p.m.

monk be on kaz/allan

1:50 p.m.

ez

1:50 p.m.

let's see whether the demon has guts to touch em

1:51 p.m.

If poisoner was on kaz then we will know

1:51 p.m.

1:52 p.m.

again

1:52 p.m.

if monk is one of the bluffs

1:52 p.m.

Free's Main

if monk is one of the bluffs

Well do understand, if poisoner is in play we're fucked either way

well well

1:56 p.m.

there might be a poisoner

1:56 p.m.

or maybe not

1:58 p.m.

sprig - (not recluse nor demon, proven) zero - chef coal - allan - ft (checked free and sprig) fish - free - Investigator (not recluse nor demon, proven) lucas- kaz - undertaker cheetah - amnesiac - softed their role (didnt look much into it tho) stella -

2:00 p.m.

also my info is useless if one of my targets were recluse

2:00 p.m.

but having recluse in the game is a big advantage for us ig

2:00 p.m.

if you are chef

ye... it could be Coal, Lucas, Cheetah, or Stella

2:39 p.m.

atp

2:39 p.m.

cuz at least 1 of them are confirmed scum

2:39 p.m.

cum

Sprigatito

ye... it could be Coal, Lucas, Cheetah, or Stella

?

Free's Main

?

that is if there is a poisoner

Explain.

cuz my role states i cannot die by the demon unless i'm poisoned

2:42 p.m.

fake ass claim

if there is no poisoner, the only way i die is via getting lynched

Free's Main

fake ass claim

?

Free's Main

fake ass claim

i'm not claiming yet...

bro

2:44 p.m.

you already did

2:44 p.m.

and you cant actually prove that role

Sprigatito

used /emote

alright so

2:45 p.m.

@Sprigatito why did you exclude fish?

Free's Main

sprig - (not recluse nor demon, proven) zero - chef coal - allan - ft (checked free and sprig) fish - free - Investigator (not recluse nor demon, proven) lucas- kaz - undertaker cheetah - amnesiac - softed their role (didnt look much into it tho) stella -

forgot that Fish is a gray area

2:45 p.m.

now i see

2:46 p.m.

unknown Coal, Fish, Lucas, Cheetah, Stella

sprig - Soldier (not recluse nor demon, proven) zero - chef coal - allan - ft (checked free and sprig) fish - free - Investigator (not recluse nor demon, proven) lucas- kaz - undertaker cheetah - amnesiac - softed their role (didnt look much into it tho) stella -

2:47 p.m.

Although the only claims that I trust is of allan and kaz

2:48 p.m.

btw

2:48 p.m.

did evils have access to evil chat on n0?

53R0 (Zero)

If they have N0 info only or recluse they should claim today

I mean

2:49 p.m.

If you can bait the demon as one it's great

2:49 p.m.

This game is rlly janky tbh

2:50 p.m.

Whos the virgin or do we not have one

Free's Main

did evils have access to evil chat on n0?

nvm they do

2:50 p.m.

alright so

2:51 p.m.

@That_Amnesiac what's the info

Janky ahh botc

Free's Main

@That_Amnesiac what's the info

Wdym

That_Amnesiac

Wdym

you told that you had some info or smth

Legit when

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291076067980869683

Oh

2:52 p.m.

Well I was telling the truth then

2:52 p.m.

It's really fucking bad with spy

hmm?

Well it isn't affected by spy

btw its funny how any of the town roles can be drunk

2:53 p.m.

Free's Main

hmm?

I'm the fortune teller with a yes on you which auto makes it worthless

2:53 p.m.

Wait there's already a ft claim I can't bait the demon

2:53 p.m.

I'm the washerwoman

that's not useless info Skull

With spy

2:53 p.m.

It def is

2:53 p.m.

And I can see the drunk for some reason

2:53 p.m.

???

2:53 p.m.

and also I dont see their role (???)

That_Amnesiac

And I can see the drunk for some reason

what

2:53 p.m.

?

washerwoman can see the drunk

2:54 p.m.

For some unknown reason

uh

2:54 p.m.

I dont understand

It's like worse steward atp

Free's Main

I dont understand

Drunk is an outsider

yes

Washerwoman only sees town

2:54 p.m.

But it can see drunk for some reason

but it says that washerwoman sees drunk as town

2:55 p.m.

Oh you're saying the same

In reg botc invest ww and lib see the roles

Free's Main

but it says that washerwoman sees drunk as town

Washerwoman seeing drunk as town is really weird considering what the role is supposed to do

and the drunk doesn't know whether they are drunk or the town role right?

They think theyre a townie

Imagine if we have drunk and demon gets a saint buff

2:56 p.m.

Whos the lib ping on tho

2:57 p.m.

Oh wait it probably doesn't even matter because spy exists

2:57 p.m.

I mean spy is balanced actually

2:57 p.m.

Cuz like they don't see the grim anymore

there are 4 possible minions

Yeah

and I know one probably

2:58 p.m.

out of the two

You physically can't know the role

this botc is very much diff from the other version

That_Amnesiac

You physically can't know the role

?

You can't figure out the role

Im investigator

The only outsider you can know is in play on this script is baron

2:59 p.m.

Wtf why don't I get a role

lol

3:00 p.m.

btw who are ur targets

Not telling youuuu

3:00 p.m.

Cuz then the demon instantly kills them

3:00 p.m.

Lol

3:00 p.m.

It'll be useful in f4/f3

Sprigatito

unknown Coal, Fish, Lucas, Cheetah, Stella

Is it outside these?

That_Amnesiac

Cuz then the demon instantly kills them

the demon has a lot to worry

3:01 p.m.

and its not like they can kill 3 at once

3:01 p.m.

like PO

Free's Main

and its not like they can kill 3 at once

I only see 2 people-

That_Amnesiac

I only see 2 people-

Ik

3:01 p.m.

I was referring to po(demon)

3:02 p.m.

idk how many botc variations are there

3:02 p.m.

like fr

So the ft outting wasnt good

I AM HERE

yeah

U can fake claim guys

3:02 p.m.

Like it's not like that bad

and the undertaker claim was unexpected Skull

Like if ur soldier u can claim mayor

rip

Also mayor is rlly bad

3:03 p.m.

Anyway

3:03 p.m.

Uhhhh

3:03 p.m.

Stuff

Im assuming that evils have come prepared

3:03 p.m.

since they had all night 0 to plan

3:03 p.m.

Hi

Lucas Lin 703

Hi

hello scum

Welcome me anyone?

3:04 p.m.

Wtf

3:04 p.m.

Wtf did I do

Free's Main

Is it outside these?

@That_Amnesiac We are probs voting someone from here tday

????

Lucas Lin 703

Wtf did I do

you are guilty of coming late to the game

Wtf

3:05 p.m.

I had an exam

Oh

Free's Main

Is it outside these?

could be

I litterally jsut came out of the exam

3:05 p.m.

Wtf

3:05 p.m.

Time to randomly accuse

Lucas Lin 703

I litterally jsut came out of the exam

did you get any info from n0

3:05 p.m.

Lemme go check my channel

3:06 p.m.

Hold up

Lucas Lin 703

Hold up

you have 10 secs

That’s fucked up

3:06 p.m.

Wtf

3:06 p.m.

Apparently I’m a prostitude

3:07 p.m.

Or something

Lucas Lin 703

Lemme go check my channel

That's what a scum would say CatGun

Free's Main

That's what a scum would say CatGun

Bruh I actually haven’t checked my channe

(Im just memeing all day guys)

3:07 p.m.

I just said I came out of an exam

Free's Main

did you get any info from n0

so?

@Sprigatito role or die

Free's Main

so?

I told you my role

3:08 p.m.

It’s not a info role

Lucas Lin 703

It’s not a info role

3:08 p.m.

I just asked whether you had info from n0 or not'

I ain’t gonna say it

3:08 p.m.

Lucas Lin 703

I ain’t gonna say it

I ain’t saying it

3:09 p.m.

I would say the info but I ain’t a info role

Lucas Lin 703

I would say the info but I ain’t a info role

uh info role as in librarian, empath etc

Free's Main

uh info role as in librarian, empath etc

Yea I ain’t

3:10 p.m.

In fact I don’t think I’m aligned I think I’m neutral

are you an outsider role?

Lucas Lin 703

In fact I don’t think I’m aligned I think I’m neutral

figured

3:10 p.m.

prostitute = virgin

allan gamesyt

are you an outsider role?

Yea

Free's Main

prostitute = virgin

No shit

oof

literally opposite

lucas your aligned with the town

Bruh I ain’t gonna say I’m a vigin

3:10 p.m.

3:11 p.m.

That’s

The outsiders are aligned with town

-social credit

allan gamesyt

The outsiders are aligned with town

Oh Alr

3:11 p.m.

Who wants to accuse me

3:11 p.m.

I can get lynch

Lucas Lin 703

I can get lynch

Ed

I actually want to trust lucas claim

Actually guck it

since if any other outsider claims then he's doomed

I’m gonna accus randoms until I get access

W

3:12 p.m.

also oof

Lucas Lin 703

I’m gonna accus randoms until I get access

access to what?

Free's Main

access to what?

Accused

oh

Lucas Lin 703

@Sprigatito role or die

soldier

@Kazuma Role or lynch

Sprigatito

soldier

Wtf

Lemme go find

town

Lucas Lin 703

@Kazuma Role or lynch

Dont try asking me. My role is already revealed

Oh Alr

3:14 p.m.

Cool

allan gamesyt

Dont try asking me. My role is already revealed

~~Idiot is not a role~~

I had n0 information

You cannot be killed by the Demon.
You can die to the Demon if you are poisoned that night.

@Lucas Lin 703 for Soldier

Lucas Lin 703

~~Idiot is not a role~~

Very funny lucas. Maybe you should take yourself to get a IQ test

3:16 p.m.

now then lets get onto business. What roles are actually confirmed?

Lucas Lin 703

~~Idiot is not a role~~

3:18 p.m.

sprig - Soldier (not recluse nor demon, proven) zero - chef coal - allan - ft (checked free and sprig) fish - free - Investigator (not recluse nor demon, proven) lucas - claims that he's a virgin lowrests

kaz - undertaker cheetah - amnesiac - washerwoman stella -

3:18 p.m.

aint no way

3:18 p.m.

all these claims are legitimate

3:21 p.m.

3:22 p.m.

I'll claim my info once everyone checks in ig

3:22 p.m.

3:25 p.m.

hmm

3:25 p.m.

We can make use of virgin later ig

3:25 p.m.

but again

3:25 p.m.

there's a good chance of virgin not getting poisoned n0

3:26 p.m.

3:28 p.m.

Imagine if the whole game claims d1

3:28 p.m.

3:28 p.m.

insta loss

We lost once I claimed ngl

Kazuma

We lost once I claimed ngl

naw

3:31 p.m.

you guys still dk my info lel

3:32 p.m.

Investigator At the start of the game you are given three names and a Minion role, one of the players named is guaranteed to have that role. If poisoned on night 0, the Minion role is one not in the game (except the Spy) and no evil players will be named in your results. The Minion cannot be the Spy. The Minion can be the Recluse, displayed as a random Minion role, except for the Spy. The other two players can be any player, except for the Spy.

3:32 p.m.

we can exclude recluse since we have a virgin claim

Free's Main

we can exclude recluse since we have a virgin claim

Unless we have a baron

then we would have 3 outsiders

4:03 p.m.

but I doubt it

You know I was thinking about it, and oh I hate unreliable Chef is now that I think about it. It's quite possible that we have a spy

Free's Main

all these claims are legitimate

Thats how the game works

Free's Main

we can exclude recluse since we have a virgin claim

Who

53R0 (Zero)

You know I was thinking about it, and oh I hate unreliable Chef is now that I think about it. It's quite possible that we have a spy

Yeah that's literally every role

allan gamesyt

Very funny lucas. Maybe you should take yourself to get a IQ test

Nahhhh

5:53 p.m.

I don’t want the world to see a record high

6:14 p.m.

i have awoken

6:14 p.m.

i shall backread some and get back to you all

6:15 p.m.

how the fuck do i get voted when i literally hadnt woken yet btw

That_Amnesiac

Washerwoman seeing drunk as town is really weird considering what the role is supposed to do

wtf

6:16 p.m.

buh...

6:16 p.m.

thats not how that should work...

53R0 (Zero)

Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy.

not how this works, that would be an empath! yours means there are 0 pairs of evils, IE no 2 evils are sitting next to each other assuming it is sober healthy info and you are not evil

Mr. Fish

not how this works, that would be an empath! yours means there are 0 pairs of evils, IE no 2 evils are sitting next to each other assuming it is sober healthy info and you are not evil

I learned that, but thank you for the reminder

53R0 (Zero)

I learned that, but thank you for the reminder

i scrolled down after

Mr. Fish

wtf

Yeah lmao it's really stupid

i also asked for clarification and lune asked if i even read

6:26 p.m.

idk if i should be playing this like botc or not

6:30 p.m.

its already weird cause we have a public claimed soldier day 1

6:30 p.m.

IE a role that wants to get hit???

6:30 p.m.

and now just wont??

6:30 p.m.

unless its a continuous info role in disguise then thats a town W but i somehow doubt it

Mr. Fish

its already weird cause we have a public claimed soldier day 1

It's weird we have as many claims as we do catsit

i mean, yeah

6:32 p.m.

i usually hold off on claiming publicly, generally

6:32 p.m.

but like, the majority of the lobby has claimed

6:32 p.m.

(me and Free claiming was fine)

6:32 p.m.

But everyone else? Why? (Oh and the virgin claim I guess)

yeah

6:33 p.m.

top 4 makes sense, virgin makes sense, everything else kinda becomes questionable

6:39 p.m.

how does hammering work? i cannot find it

Smash or pass

6:39 p.m.

Oops

6:39 p.m.

Wrong channel

6:39 p.m.

big if true

6:39 p.m.

now your role makes sense

6:39 p.m.

that was just part of the claim

Huh

6:40 p.m.

What

6:40 p.m.

Ion get it

dont worry about it my friend

alr

6:41 p.m.

who did i randomly acuess before

6:41 p.m.

i forgor

6:47 p.m.

guys vote

6:47 p.m.

random

6:47 p.m.

lets get someone off this ship

can i just point out that lucas is like

6:48 p.m.

the best vote here

nah what

and he also just randomly voted me so i mean hey

lmaooo

youre throwing it back on me after i random voted?

6:48 p.m.

sus

youre the virgin

you didnt even defend yourself

it confirms people to vote you

6:48 p.m.

i dont need to defend myself

and ion wanna die yet

youre just the best vote here, mechanically

6:49 p.m.

lmao

mf i randomed

6:49 p.m.

and you threw everything back at me

6:49 p.m.

i see how it is

it isnt related to you voting me at all

6:49 p.m.

i was going to say this anyways

uh huh

and then you voted me

uh huh

6:49 p.m.

so right after

6:49 p.m.

i see

6:49 p.m.

so right after voting goes you decide to vote back on be claiming its best intrest

6:50 p.m.

i had plans to mention it anyways, i was just reading up on the role

Mr. Fish

youre the virgin

This sounds like an insult lmao

and it differs from BOTC

well if you dont die youre next

Kazuma

This sounds like an insult lmao

Kazuma

This sounds like an insult lmao

you shouldve seen my messages up higher, they were peak

youre just voting me to get the suspisouns off you

lmao

when you lynch me see what happens to you

i dont think it happens to me

wait

its the last player

6:51 p.m.

as in the player doing the hammering

fuck

genius

yo can you guys not vote?

6:51 p.m.

i want this guy to die with me

???

what

6:51 p.m.

literally

6:51 p.m.

how does that make sense

do you even understand your own role?

yea

6:52 p.m.

i kill the last dude that votes me no?

if theyre town, and you live in that case

6:52 p.m.

and you die if theyre evil

6:52 p.m.

youre the best vote because no matter what it confirms a good player

6:52 p.m.

so we vote you

6:52 p.m.

well, unless youre drunk/poisoned/evil

6:52 p.m.

then it doesnt

6:53 p.m.

but youre still the best vote lmao

but like theres a good chance no one did anything to you n1

indeed

i see what youre saying

and if we leave you ALIVE youll just get poisoned

6:53 p.m.

so now is the best time to vote you

lowk fish spitting facts

again, i was going to say this BEFORE he voted me but i was reading the role to see how it differed from normal BOTC

6:54 p.m.

then he voted me and his defense was "youre just voting me cuz its you!1!!!11!11one!!1"

Mr. Fish

youre the best vote because no matter what it confirms a good player

so youre trying to vote me off right away and randomly check a town?

yes?

6:54 p.m.

it confirms a townie

6:54 p.m.

idealy we have one of the top 4 roles hammer it

for the townies its better to get some more info before using this

but like

to confirm their info and town status

you've been outed

6:54 p.m.

lucas

6:54 p.m.

youve been outed

6:55 p.m.

so tonight someone is gonna poison you

yeah

6:55 p.m.

lol

and render your ability useless

6:55 p.m.

so like

6:55 p.m.

nows the time to use your ability

6:55 p.m.

and like it sucks but

‍♀️

i mean, its just how virgin works

6:56 p.m.

theyre typically nominated day 1 because it gives you a lot of info really quick

and if the person is town, then you stay alive

6:57 p.m.

and no one targets you for the rest of the game lowk

6:57 p.m.

idk if virgin is a one use or not

it is

6:58 p.m.

well

6:58 p.m.

it SHOULD be

6:58 p.m.

idk if it is here, actually..?

is that a host question lol

yeah it is a one time use

6:58 p.m.

it says "the first time"

ah sick

back

6:59 p.m.

sorry

6:59 p.m.

im at work

Mr. Fish

to confirm their info and town status

ok then randomly vote a town off

7:00 p.m.

youre insisting that we quickly kill a town when half the town already claimed

7:00 p.m.

shouldnt we let info roles do their things for one more night?

thats why a top 4 role should hammer you

the mafias cant kill that fast

because they have no more info

7:00 p.m.

and it confirms their info as good

wdym by top 4

7:00 p.m.

ive never played botc so

7:00 p.m.

trying to learn as i go

yea idk what toop 4 is

Mr. Fish

and it confirms their info as good

theres one unique role of each info

coal

wdym by top 4

top 4 are the first 4 roles on the list, theyre all "start knowing..."

we can assume evrything they are saying is accurate and true

>the poisoner and drunk in question

7:01 p.m.

>the evils in question

Mr. Fish

top 4 are the first 4 roles on the list, theyre all "start knowing..."

ohhhh gotchu

7:01 p.m.

so washerwomen etc

Mr. Fish

>the evils in question

ok then at most theres two fake there

7:02 p.m.

even if we confirmed one theyd be murdered fast no?

coal

so washerwomen etc

ye

if evils kill 1-2 evils then someones evil among the remaining

Lucas Lin 703

even if we confirmed one theyd be murdered fast no?

uhh yes but we can know their info is likely very reliable

we should wait for a better chance not lynching me day one

Mr. Fish

uhh yes but we can know their info is likely very reliable

yea and theyd get murdered

7:03 p.m.

wouldnt it be better to confirm later

ok but we CANT since you came out

because if i confirm someone later then 1) they wont be murdered by the evils that fast

if you HELD it itd have been good

7:03 p.m.

but now youll just be poisoned

theyre not gonna poison me everyday

7:04 p.m.

theres several info roles

7:04 p.m.

them poisoning me works to our advantage as they cant poison info roles (edited)

7:04 p.m.

youre thinking too short

but like

i think the real issue is the possibility of it being poisoned at any point is very bad

we dont know when theyre gonna poison you

7:04 p.m.

yeah

7:04 p.m.

why not j do it now

7:04 p.m.

when we're sure youre not poisoned

because he is evil and doesnt want to die perhaps

7:05 p.m.

oop

he has been defending himself quite hard for a role that gains info on death

7:05 p.m.

lol

coal

when we're sure youre not poisoned

do you not get it

7:05 p.m.

by keeping me alive they would either have to keep poisoning me

7:05 p.m.

or do it periodically

7:06 p.m.

we just have to kill me when we really need the info

yeah and thats possibly the worst outcome

Mr. Fish

he has been defending himself quite hard for a role that gains info on death

i dont like getting lynched randomly

its literally your role buddy

then dont claim virgin D1

7:06 p.m.

simple as that my friend

7:06 p.m.

if you held it it probably wouldnt happen

Lucas Lin 703

by keeping me alive they would either have to keep poisoning me

by keeping you alive, we literally can't use you anymore

also stealth virgin is much much more viable in this than the actual main game

we have to assume that youre getting poisoned every night

@Free's Main I literally haven’t even talked yet wtf

coal

by keeping you alive, we literally can't use you anymore

by keeping me alive we can stun the bad guys

7:08 p.m.

also because i want to keep playing

7:08 p.m.

dont want to die so early ykyk

I want full marks (Cheetah)

@Free's Main I literally haven’t even talked yet wtf

i can relate, i got voted before i woke up

you still get to play bro

yeah

if we vote a town

dead people can talk

then you stay alive

and that

7:08 p.m.

dead people can still talk theres zero world where you cant play anymore

7:08 p.m.

lol

Lucas Lin 703

by keeping me alive we can stun the bad guys

how do we "stun the bad guys"

7:09 p.m.

if we dont vote you, we have to guess the nights you aren't guessing poisoned

i genuinely have no clue what he means by this

and scum has access to this chat too

7:09 p.m.

they can read

7:09 p.m.

‍♀️

Anyways I have immediate info so

7:10 p.m.

Should I claim

if youre top 4 probably best

back

as in a "start knowing..." role

coal

if we dont vote you, we have to guess the nights you aren't guessing poisoned

i know when im poisoned

Mr. Fish

as in a "start knowing..." role

No, it’s an “each night…” role

I want full marks (Cheetah)

No, it’s an “each night…” role

well now youre just an empath

trust me

7:11 p.m.

i got insder info

Lucas Lin 703

i got insder info

trust trust

so you might as well claim since you just did

I sensed an evil aura

7:12 p.m.

At least one of the players above and below me are evil

interesting

7:12 p.m.

but yeah i wouldnt RECOMMEND claiming empath but like

7:12 p.m.

you already did so...

I want full marks (Cheetah)

At least one of the players above and below me are evil

i s ense an evil aura

7:13 p.m.

at least someone playing is evil

7:13 p.m.

crazy

@I want full marks (Cheetah) wanna vote with me on fish?

i was crazy once

lets have @That_Amnesiac hammer on lucas

Lucas Lin 703

i know when im poisoned

i dont entirely like relying on you saying "oh yeah im poisoned dont kill me"

confirms into the empath info

7:14 p.m.

and spreads the empath info further

Lucas Lin 703

i know when im poisoned

you definitely DONT

7:14 p.m.

lmao

7:14 p.m.

poison is silent

coal

i dont entirely like relying on you saying "oh yeah im poisoned dont kill me"

it DOESNT EVEN DO THIS

7:14 p.m.

he cant know

no i mean i got insider info

he is genuinely just making things up- WHAT does he MEAN by this

i know when im poisoned

7:15 p.m.

cuz im pretty sure i got a evil alr

big if true

Mr. Fish

lets have @That_Amnesiac hammer on lucas

I'm not an empath

That_Amnesiac

I'm not an empath

yeah but your neighbor is

7:15 p.m.

and youre a top 4 role

Oh Lucas is the virgin claim?

yeah

They were in my pings

what were you again?

Mr. Fish

and youre a top 4 role

Imo get the chef to

Mr. Fish

what were you again?

Washer

That_Amnesiac

Imo get the chef to

yeah but youre next to the empath

i actually know one of them

it spreads the empath info and helps confirm things

I can see drunk for some ungodly reason

and i played with them before so i know when they would poison and not poison me

youre just a good hit

Virgin is still a townsfolk btw

wdym

7:16 p.m.

its an outsider (for some reason)

It's ability is townsfolky

yeah

7:17 p.m.

lol

It's like fucking acrobay

it really ISNT an outsider

Mr. Fish

it DOESNT EVEN DO THIS

LMAOOOO

but yeah amne are you down to hammer on lucas?

7:18 p.m.

itll help confirm your info, the empaths info, and the virgins info

7:18 p.m.

i think its probably our best hit

Mr. Fish

itll help confirm your info, the empaths info, and the virgins info

You know it’s possible that kaz is the evil one

Mr. Fish

but yeah amne are you down to hammer on lucas?

ill pick who im hammering

I want full marks (Cheetah)

You know it’s possible that kaz is the evil one

this is true, but its better we get the top 4 than the continuous info character

Lucas Lin 703

ill pick who im hammering

i told you i got insider info

???

And I could’ve gotten poisoned

Mr. Fish

???

im 90% sure theya re bad

But

7:21 p.m.

The poisoner is not guaranteed

Lucas Lin 703

im 90% sure theya re bad

who?

7:22 p.m.

me?

no

7:23 p.m.

not you

big if true

7:23 p.m.

the only explanation i can think of here is you arent virgin but IDK about that, my friend

last game i played i got 3 figured out three evils day one

7:23 p.m.

i have a different play style

he's kind of a big deal

roles that want to stay alive dont stay alive with me

big if true

roles that want to die dont die if im playing lit

7:24 p.m.

thats my playstyle

7:24 p.m.

ask others they were there

Lucas Lin 703

ask others they were there

played my info like i was a civilian

(thats how a lot of people play botc)

:?

Mr. Fish

(thats how a lot of people play botc)

nah bro

7:25 p.m.

i dont mean it like that

7:26 p.m.

i meant ti like i played info role as if im unimportant

7:26 p.m.

i dont see how this relates to the current game in any way at all, either way that IS how people play in botc yes

Mr. Fish

i dont see how this relates to the current game in any way at all, either way that IS how people play in botc yes

do they try to get their life tied to another person day one with no info?

7:27 p.m.

i said vote cheetah and if shes good then ill die with her day one with no info

7:27 p.m.

@I want full marks (Cheetah) can confirm

7:27 p.m.

im just saying i have a diff play style

flashback to my literal last game of botc, claiming ravenkeeper to the demon D1 saying they were my ride or die and we could roleswap

Lucas Lin 703

@I want full marks (Cheetah) can confirm

What

so

he is just bringing up unrelated stuff

youre asking us to believe you

7:28 p.m.

cuz you have insider info

yea

7:28 p.m.

let me cook

it has literally no bearing on this game he just wants to be like I HAVE INSIDER INFO I ALWAYS LIE

but youre not willing to divulge any insider ingo

7:28 p.m.

*info

7:28 p.m.

yeah no

7:28 p.m.

not convincing

I want full marks (Cheetah)

What

just want you to confirm to them that i play didff

Mr. Fish

it has literally no bearing on this game he just wants to be like I HAVE INSIDER INFO I ALWAYS LIE

i never lie

youre implying you ARENT virgin

coal

but youre not willing to divulge any insider ingo

coal go think about why i wouldnt say anything

7:29 p.m.

no i am

which i do think is true, i think youre evil

7:29 p.m.

then you cant have insider info

7:29 p.m.

if youre virgin

Lucas Lin 703

coal go think about why i wouldnt say anything

you've literally outed yourself to be virgin day one

7:29 p.m.

i dont wanna think about how you think

dude the only insider info you could have is mafia chat

7:29 p.m.

Mr. Fish

if youre virgin

no bro i know whos one of the evils

7:30 p.m.

but i want them to be alive for now

7:30 p.m.

trust

(its his demon)

bruh

LMAO

Guys can we stop calling each other virgins

let me cook

Also what’s happening

coal

LMAO

he DID say he wants them to be alive...

i mean

7:30 p.m.

real

Kazuma

Also what’s happening

lucas is claiming virgin

7:31 p.m.

but is being kinda dumb about it

bruh let me cook

bro

last tiem i got mod killed i couldnt find all of the evils

7:31 p.m.

i found 3

7:31 p.m.

out of like 4-5 day on

what he is saying is that he has a read on someone and is 100% confident in it and itll be so funny if its wrong

let me cook bro

your ability is gonna be useless

Mr. Fish

what he is saying is that he has a read on someone and is 100% confident in it and itll be so funny if its wrong

its right

"its right" XDDD

coal

your ability is gonna be useless

no it wont

but reads aside your ability SHOULDNT MATTER

bruh

your ability is DIFFERENT than your reads

let me cook

bro

WHY does the role that WANTS TO DIE not WANT TO DIE????

^^^^

7:32 p.m.

just

7:32 p.m.

we j need to vote a town ok

7:32 p.m.

and you'll still be alive

7:32 p.m.

to do whatever reads you wanna

7:32 p.m.

like

bruh

just let us confirm townies

7:32 p.m.

and you can go on your merry way

you can also do whatever you want while dead

like

7:32 p.m.

^^

you can literally talk while dead if it goes wrong

7:32 p.m.

your ability has NOTHING to do with your reads

you can go laugh at us

7:33 p.m.

idk how dead acc works here lowk

7:33 p.m.

do they get to talk in main chat?

coal

idk how dead acc works here lowk

they can just talk yes

well then

7:33 p.m.

whats the problem

7:33 p.m.

exactly

7:33 p.m.

he is unironically just evil

7:33 p.m.

or like... not the smartest town

Lucas Lin 703

them poisoning me works to our advantage as they cant poison info roles (edited)

don’t edit splat

Guys I’ve solved it

go kaz go

Mr. Fish

you can literally talk while dead if it goes wrong

wait fr?

Amne, Stella, Lucas/fish

YES

EZ

IVE BEEN SAYING THIS

LMAO LUCAS

7:34 p.m.

PLEASE

on then lynch me off

7:34 p.m.

good night

XDDDDD

Kazuma

Amne, Stella, Lucas/fish

BIG IF TRUE

this is to much

7:34 p.m.

i cant

star

don’t edit splat

sorry

too much

im gonna cry, coal

its ok

7:35 p.m.

ill join you

i cant believe

7:35 p.m.

acc

7:35 p.m.

how long did we take to do this

7:35 p.m.

oh my god literally an hour

yes

7:35 p.m.

lmao

ewfjeiwjfefj

Mr. Fish

BIG IF TRUE

How many “mislynches” can we tank

uhh

7:36 p.m.

well we only need 1 evil

Kazuma

How many “mislynches” can we tank

We only need to kill one??

i like the way you think

so theoretically we can mislynch like 4 times as long as we hit the demon last

7:36 p.m.

yeah

7:36 p.m.

it only matters if the demon dies

we j need to hit demon?

yes

Botc is easy

thats how BOTC works

Wtf

easy shit

7:36 p.m.

trust

oh

vote me off

before 5 people

im all for it

coal

before 5 people

SW jump!!

as long as i can still chat

the Imp in specific can also kill itself to pass demon to a minion

Mr. Fish

SW jump!!

yessir

Mr. Fish

so theoretically we can mislynch like 4 times as long as we hit the demon last

So yeah we lynch the 4 of you back to back to back to back and if we don’t win by the time the last guy dies then GG

but you only technically need to kill the 1 singular demon (and scarlet woman sometimes, if that exists)

Kazuma

So yeah we lynch the 4 of you back to back to back to back and if we don’t win by the time the last guy dies then GG

BIG IF TRUE????

7:37 p.m.

ok but what if the demon SW jumps

7:37 p.m.

or imp jumps

I have no idea what that is

we deal with that when we get there

scarlet woman: if 5 or more players live and the demon dies, become the demon

Kazuma

I have no idea what that is

sw becomes demon if demon is lynched w/ more than 5 people remaining

coal

we deal with that when we get there

That’s the spirit!!

imp: if it kills itself a minion becomes the new demon

Kazuma

That’s the spirit!!

RAHHHHHHH

coal

sw becomes demon if demon is lynched w/ more than 5 people remaining

That sucks, so if we play too good we get punished??

yes

i mean

7:39 p.m.

in other mafia you have to hit every evil

we get nerfed

in this you have to hit 1

or two

i think that can be fair enough

or three

lol

True true

Kazuma

So yeah we lynch the 4 of you back to back to back to back and if we don’t win by the time the last guy dies then GG

yo i like the way you think

what does rng mean

random number generator?

oh

Anyway amne must die today

do you live INSIDE of a rock?

damn makes sense

Mr. Fish

do you live INSIDE of a rock?

i am the rock

@Kazuma so our strategy is just random voting?

coal

i am the rock

Omg Dwayne??

coal

i am the rock

tis i

7:40 p.m.

you've never seen me and dwayne the rock johnson in the same room

7:40 p.m.

never

coal

tis i

why are you letting a star go inside you

can i still propose that we have @That_Amnesiac hammer the vote on @Lucas Lin 703 please?

Mr. Fish

can i still propose that we have @That_Amnesiac hammer the vote on @Lucas Lin 703 please?

im down

sure

Mr. Fish

so theoretically we can mislynch like 4 times as long as we hit the demon last

Actually, there's a discrepancy here. If the amount of evils outweigh the town we just automatically lose. We can't afford to mislynch that much. Cause if 1 person dies every night and day and assuming everyone is town. We'd have Surviving People after phase: Night 1 - 10 (7 town) Day 2 - 9 (6 town) Night 2 - 8 (5 town) Night 3 - 7 ( 4 town) Day 4 - 6 ( 3 town) best we could get is a tie. So we lose on day 4 if we mislynch every single day.

Lucas Lin 703

@Kazuma so our strategy is just random voting?

If we assume the chef and cheetah and whoever else’s info wasn’t poisoned then zeros neighbors are clear and my neighbors are clear (idk why ask free don’t ask me) and cheetah says one of HER neighbors is evil that leaves amne along with fish Stella and someone else I can’t remember rn (it’s 2 am)

Patrick

53R0 (Zero)

Actually, there's a discrepancy here. If the amount of evils outweigh the town we just automatically lose. We can't afford to mislynch that much. Cause if 1 person dies every night and day and assuming everyone is town. We'd have Surviving People after phase: Night 1 - 10 (7 town) Day 2 - 9 (6 town) Night 2 - 8 (5 town) Night 3 - 7 ( 4 town) Day 4 - 6 ( 3 town) best we could get is a tie. So we lose on day 4 if we mislynch every single day.

hey so the game continues until theres 2 people left, or all people alive are evil

Kazuma

If we assume the chef and cheetah and whoever else’s info wasn’t poisoned then zeros neighbors are clear and my neighbors are clear (idk why ask free don’t ask me) and cheetah says one of HER neighbors is evil that leaves amne along with fish Stella and someone else I can’t remember rn (it’s 2 am)

All I heard is you want to rabid on with me

7:43 p.m.

Tandom*

or wait actually it probably works differently here

7:43 p.m.

since dead people cant vote

7:44 p.m.

scratch that

Kazuma

If we assume the chef and cheetah and whoever else’s info wasn’t poisoned then zeros neighbors are clear and my neighbors are clear (idk why ask free don’t ask me) and cheetah says one of HER neighbors is evil that leaves amne along with fish Stella and someone else I can’t remember rn (it’s 2 am)

90% genius, 10% bullshit

Mr. Fish

since dead people cant vote

yeah that's what I was saying

or i assume dead people cant vote?

7:44 p.m.

they dont get their 1 vote right

Lucas Lin 703

All I heard is you want to rabid on with me

Fuck yeah

They cannot

1984

So we can only afford at most 3 mislynches any more we auto lose

53R0 (Zero)

So we can only afford at most 3 mislynches any more we auto lose

That’s not that bad

Though that number does go up if we hit a minion so, it does help to hunt them too

yeah

Has the outsider gone outside

virgin is one

7:45 p.m.

so

7:46 p.m.

even though it is clearly a townsfolk ability

7:46 p.m.

as it helps town

Mr. Fish

can i still propose that we have @That_Amnesiac hammer the vote on @Lucas Lin 703 please?

Other way round imo

Kazuma

Other way round imo

but lucas is the virgin

Let me look at virgin then

yes please do

Mr. Fish

but lucas is the virgin

thats so insulting and not at the same time lmao

im eating u

Fish is a fucking genius

?

lmao

does that mean you agree with having amne hammer on lucas

Mr. Fish

does that mean you agree with having amne hammer on lucas

Yes

YIPPEEE

It can confirm two people

Kazuma

Fish is a fucking genius

that reads like a drunk person at 4am crashing out on the couch

yeah

why is virgin an outside wtf, it confirms 2 people splat

and it spreads the empath info further

53R0 (Zero)

why is virgin an outside wtf, it confirms 2 people splat

EXACTLY!!!

imma go work

You’re not a fish you’re a fucking goat omg

lmk when my execution date is

lmao

Kazuma

You’re not a fish you’re a fucking goat omg

goat eat fish

coal

that reads like a drunk person at 4am crashing out on the couch

in the best way possible kaz dont worry

We can weaponize the virgin

7:50 p.m.

Weaponized virginity is crazy

Wait @Mr. Fish why do you want Amne to hammer again? What did they claim

theyre a top 4 role, washerwoman

Kazuma

Weaponized virginity is crazy

LMAO

so theyre less important than the other empath yes

Kazuma

We can weaponize the virgin

Stop abusing underaged virgin little girls~

7:51 p.m.

Oh sh

Lucas Lin 703

Stop abusing underaged virgin little girls~

Ayo

I can’t delete

7:51 p.m.

Mr. Fish

theyre a top 4 role, washerwoman

I mean technically I could hammer as well but FernNoting

uhh

7:51 p.m.

yes but

I'm Chef if you can recall

that doesnt go into the empath next to amne

7:51 p.m.

which means less info for our buck

The way chat is just carrying on like nothing happened

we ignore what we want to forget

7:51 p.m.

stop bringing it up

7:52 p.m.

we let it fade into the subconciousness

What happened

Nothing

i just

Nothing happened

7:53 p.m.

Nothing ever happens

i dont get why everyone has public claimed

7:53 p.m.

we are just ASKING for poison/kills on optimal targets

Mr. Fish

i dont get why everyone has public claimed

I was forced

top 4 makes sense

The rest is probably just peer pressure

but outside of those everyone shouldve probably stayed anon until they die or something

Also What’s top 4

then out all their info

Kazuma

Also What’s top 4

top 4 roles on the list, the "start knowing" roles

7:54 p.m.

theyre fine to claim since theyre already spent

Mr. Fish

but outside of those everyone shouldve probably stayed anon until they die or something

Nahhhhhhhhhhhh sharing is caring

i think fish has said this at least twice now LMAO

7:54 p.m.

we should j put it into info atp

i HAVE because i dont WANT TO CLAIM

Chef / Invest / Invest / Librarian

>:(

53R0 (Zero)

Chef / Invest / Invest / Librarian

in literally every other game isnt claim town j

7:55 p.m.

a shit move

what?

idk

Mr. Fish

I am stupid I meant to put washer there -3-

i dont know what youre saying coal

7:55 p.m.

what are you saying

53R0 (Zero)

I am stupid I meant to put washer there -3-

its ok i literally missed that lmao?

nah itsj like a im not comprehending how to play the game lol

7:55 p.m.

but like in other games (read: wwr)

7:55 p.m.

if you claim townie

7:55 p.m.

everyone harps on you

coal

nah itsj like a im not comprehending how to play the game lol

Same, it’s just vibes for me

This game is very mechanic heavy

for sure

coal

everyone harps on you

it depends on the role

7:56 p.m.

same with here

This game is actually kinda fun ya know

oh i love BOTC

7:56 p.m.

its my favorite

interesting mk

Kazuma

This game is actually kinda fun ya know

I should host the real BOTC lol

i do storytelling

7:57 p.m.

so ye

53R0 (Zero)

I should host the real BOTC lol

You should. Id love to join

oooh sick

i could invite you guys to my botc server where ive never hosted a game if you guys want, its VC based though

7:58 p.m.

after this game, anyhow

Me go sleep now humans. Make sure amne votes Lucas LAST btw. Night night

gn gn gn

gnnnnn

so yeah we need 5 people to vote And Then Amne

But back to topic, I feel like there's something fishy going on (sorry couldn't help the pun.) I'm almost certain that at least 1-2 of the public claims so far aren't real. Also if Amne saw drunk does that mean we have baron??

So can I vote

53R0 (Zero)

But back to topic, I feel like there's something fishy going on (sorry couldn't help the pun.) I'm almost certain that at least 1-2 of the public claims so far aren't real. Also if Amne saw drunk does that mean we have baron??

oh yeah for sure theres fakers

7:59 p.m.

and uh zero

7:59 p.m.

washerwoman... doesnt... see roles...

8:00 p.m.

its kinda dumb imo

8:00 p.m.

it doesnt learn "fish zero empath" it learns "fish zero"

Oh right.

I keep forgetting Lune changes it

8:00 p.m.

Sorry

its ok my friend

8:06 p.m.

holy shit

8:06 p.m.

i just realized how useless washerwoman is

8:06 p.m.

its like, unironically worthless

8:07 p.m.

it only means "those 2 players arent evil together" and poisoning it does basically nothing unless you get the really low chance of RNG putting another evil in the ping

8:10 p.m.

i guess 2 people not being evil together is fine info but its RNG so itll likely not mean much

53R0 (Zero)

I should host the real BOTC lol

Let me tell the story

Mr. Fish

it only means "those 2 players arent evil together" and poisoning it does basically nothing unless you get the really low chance of RNG putting another evil in the ping

At the start of the game you are given two names, at least one of them has a Town role. Does that not mean at least one is confirmed town?

53R0 (Zero)

At the start of the game you are given two names, at least one of them has a Town role. Does that not mean at least one is confirmed town?

i mean yes but also spy and poisoner exist, and you dont know which, so it essentially just means they arent evil together because at most 1 of them is evil

8:35 p.m.

i didnt word it that well

8:36 p.m.

because of the fact that 1 of the people is "guaranteed" to be town, you just know the two cant be evil together. that said, if there is a spy or poisoner messing with things, it wont actually do much because there is a low chance of another evil being put into the info

53R0 (Zero)

At the start of the game you are given two names, at least one of them has a Town role. Does that not mean at least one is confirmed town?

It can also see drunk

11:20 p.m.

Which is why u shouldn't virgin kill me cuz my info is borderline fucking worthless it's better to spend on the chef or invest

i suppose

That_Amnesiac

Which is why u shouldn't virgin kill me cuz my info is borderline fucking worthless it's better to spend on the chef or invest

the question is if we want to value the chef/invest info over the empath + washerwoman info, really

53R0 (Zero)

I should host the real BOTC lol

oh ?!

Mr. Fish

the question is if we want to value the chef/invest info over the empath + washerwoman info, really

Has free even claimed what minion is in play?

Not sure

7:55 a.m.

Also why is chat dead

7:56 a.m.

And why aren’t we testing the virgin

i'm back

i havent played mafia/botc in agesss

8:36 a.m.

wow half the list has claimed atp

8:41 a.m.

austria- soldier allan- ft ray/austria not imp kaz- undertaker ray- invest (probably time to reveal info tbh) lucas- virgin (our outsider for this game?) amne- washer i missed if they mentioned their targets anywhere cheetah empath 1 on memento and amne afaik this is the current claimslist?

stella.

austria- soldier allan- ft ray/austria not imp kaz- undertaker ray- invest (probably time to reveal info tbh) lucas- virgin (our outsider for this game?) amne- washer i missed if they mentioned their targets anywhere cheetah empath 1 on memento and amne afaik this is the current claimslist?

It’s 1+

8:43 a.m.

Even if they both evil I get the same feedback

oh

8:43 a.m.

wait lemme reread

8:43 a.m.

i've recently been skimming everything

8:44 a.m.

so someone is evil there

8:44 a.m.

who's memento

8:45 a.m.

its the like one name on this list i dont think ive any recollection of

8:45 a.m.

oh its kaz

8:45 a.m.

okay

Mr. Fish

the question is if we want to value the chef/invest info over the empath + washerwoman info, really

I'm fine being killed

8:46 a.m.

I just don't want to be the one hammering virgin

8:46 a.m.

Although the only reason ppl want me dead is for virgin confirming

so our plan is to vote lucas to prove amne and lucas then what?

8:48 a.m.

theres like no discussion beyond this point

8:49 a.m.

wait

8:49 a.m.

why would you ever let amne hammer lucas

8:49 a.m.

cheetah says amne/kaz has at least one scum

8:50 a.m.

i mean i suppose if amne dies then cheetah is proven fake

8:51 a.m.

or poison ig

8:52 a.m.

im down to chop lucas

stella.

i mean i suppose if amne dies then cheetah is proven fake

Exactly, glad you see the vision

stella.

im down to chop lucas

Voteeeee

That_Amnesiac

I just don't want to be the one hammering virgin

You can still talk and contribute even if you die

9:09 a.m.

Me otherwise happy to vote you instead

stella.

austria- soldier allan- ft ray/austria not imp kaz- undertaker ray- invest (probably time to reveal info tbh) lucas- virgin (our outsider for this game?) amne- washer i missed if they mentioned their targets anywhere cheetah empath 1 on memento and amne afaik this is the current claimslist?

I claimed Chef with a 0

Kazuma

Exactly, glad you see the vision

Wait since when were you confirmed

My role can be can confirmed apparently

9:18 a.m.

So uh

Okay

Kazuma

Exactly, glad you see the vision

oh i had assumed worst(or best?) case it was 2 since i was corrected into 1/2 oops lol

53R0 (Zero)

I claimed Chef with a 0

latest list austria- soldier zero- chef 0 allan- ft ray/austria not imp kaz- undertaker ray- invest (probably time to reveal info tbh) lucas- virgin (our outsider for this game?) amne- washer i missed if they mentioned their targets anywhere cheetah empath 1 on kaz and amne

9:24 a.m.

kaz could be confirmed but we know lucas is a virgin claim and amne is a washer claim? doesnt the conf only work if you have some random townsfolk die and kaz calls their role correctly

9:26 a.m.

anyways the virgin vote seems the best way to go atm

9:27 a.m.

i forgot how mech heavy botc was

stella.

kaz could be confirmed but we know lucas is a virgin claim and amne is a washer claim? doesnt the conf only work if you have some random townsfolk die and kaz calls their role correctly

If we have a poisoner in play Kaz is useless. Cause any smart poisoner would poison either Kaz or Cheetah then kill the other

9:38 a.m.

So we need to play around that

hiiiiiiiiiiiii !!

hola (edited)

alright guys

10:57 a.m.

@Alive Line SP either sprig, stella or kazuma is the scarlet woman

10:58 a.m.

I'll be back later

Free's Main

@Alive Line SP either sprig, stella or kazuma is the scarlet woman

lets lynch all three

not kaz

why not

10:58 a.m.

i want all three dead

10:58 a.m.

i like death

10:58 a.m.

or youre teamates with kaz?

he claimed a provable role

10:59 a.m.

smh

Free's Main

he claimed a provable role

oh nvm

Free's Main

@Alive Line SP either sprig, stella or kazuma is the scarlet woman

ok sick

11:00 a.m.

why do we think its the others tho

Because I didnt claim my info b4 (wanted to see the chat be active)

11:01 a.m.

mhm but didnt she claim soldier?

11:02 a.m.

idk i havent kept up enough

again monk be on allan/kaz (you can fake claim monk if you have a useless role lowrests

)

coal

idk i havent kept up enough

I'll read back later

can we just kill someone

whats considered to be useless LMAO

i want some death

i thought we were killing yu lucas

11:03 a.m.

and having amne hammer

11:03 a.m.

to prove amne's info

11:03 a.m.

or something

sure

amne still didnt claim his info yet?

11:04 a.m.

Free's Main

@Alive Line SP either sprig, stella or kazuma is the scarlet woman

?

11:04 a.m.

so it's either me or Stella

probs

11:04 a.m.

yeah

Free's Main

amne still didnt claim his info yet?

i thought he did..? im not to sure tho

11:05 a.m.

AND

11:05 a.m.

DONT HAMMER LUCAS NOW

11:05 a.m.

Anyone

11:05 a.m.

@Sprigatito tbh unvote for now

ok

@Free's Main https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291177419147055155

so Lucas is getting voted cuz... Virgin (OUTSIDER)

mhm

Sprigatito

so Lucas is getting voted cuz... Virgin (OUTSIDER)

Ik

but thats the reason we're having amne hammer

id say that wait for it

but what if someone hammers them by mistake

11:07 a.m.

it would be wasted

11:07 a.m.

uk

ye...

yeah lol

but since yall all up to use me day one~

Swurtle Moment

its kinda your fault for claiming virgin d1 lmao

lmao

11:07 a.m.

nah i didnt know what it did

but

‍♀️

11:07 a.m.

fair enough

Lucas Lin 703

but since yall all up to use me day one~

Are you fine with it?

ummmmm... that's not me

️. idk how you came up with the scarlet thought

11:09 a.m.

you thought my soldier claim is false

Lucas Lin 703

but since yall all up to use me day one~

With or without context, this is wild

Sprigatito

ummmmm... that's not me

️. idk how you came up with the scarlet thought

Scarlet Woman (Demon Minion)

11:09 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291413927569260732

Free's Main

@Alive Line SP either sprig, stella or kazuma is the scarlet woman

So that’s why you wanted me to claim

11:10 a.m.

I see I see

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291108182583935038

11:11 a.m.

yeah... you think i'm a likely scarlet woman

11:11 a.m.

ummmmmmm...

11:12 a.m.

im keeping an eye on you, Free's Main.

mmm

11:13 a.m.

my two cents is sprig is some sort of scum

️

j based off interactions

ummmm...

stella.

latest list austria- soldier zero- chef 0 allan- ft ray/austria not imp kaz- undertaker ray- invest (probably time to reveal info tbh) lucas- virgin (our outsider for this game?) amne- washer i missed if they mentioned their targets anywhere cheetah empath 1 on kaz and amne

cheetah is empath?

11:13 a.m.

W

11:13 a.m.

make amne hammer

11:13 a.m.

yep

11:13 a.m.

we vote Amne

no....?

11:14 a.m.

we vote lucas

11:14 a.m.

and have amne hammer him

ooooohhhhhhhhhhh

coal

my two cents is sprig is some sort of scum

Idk how chef works but if zero got a zero then arent his neighbors clear

im not sure either

Sprigatito

we vote Amne

i misread

pause lemme go read

If amne is the other minion / demon then it works

11:15 a.m.

Free's Main

If amne is the other minion / demon then it works

Glad you also see the vision

I just came back

11:15 a.m.

Kazuma

Idk how chef works but if zero got a zero then arent his neighbors clear

not his neighbors no

11:15 a.m.

it j talks about pairs

11:16 a.m.

they dont have to be next to him i dont think

btw does the day end if lucas dies?

so it could be like cheetah scum, zero clear, sprig scum (hypothetically)

11:16 a.m.

and it would count as zero

Zero isnt cleared btw

coal

not his neighbors no

Oh yeah you’re right

Free's Main

btw does the day end if lucas dies?

yeah cuz majority

I mean like

11:18 a.m.

if amne is town then the day doesnt end

oh damn

11:18 a.m.

true

11:18 a.m.

idk then lmao

Free's Main

Are you fine with it?

I don’t give consent to you

Kazuma

With or without context, this is wild

Lmao

Free's Main

he claimed a provable role

Is it really "Provable?" At least to me Undertaker can be faked

Once I die ya wont have to worry about that

53R0 (Zero)

Is it really "Provable?" At least to me Undertaker can be faked

yeah but evils wont keep them alive for long

12:06 p.m.

also for other reasons which I'll explain later (you probably realised tho)

alright

12:39 p.m.

so

12:39 p.m.

@That_Amnesiac If ur town then cooperate ig

@Alive Line SP

2:52 p.m.

hello chat

wth

mhm

2:53 p.m.

wassup

@That_Amnesiac ...

2:53 p.m.

i am on my laptop

What are the claims again

uhh

2:54 p.m.

idk someone made a list

2:54 p.m.

i still havent claimed

2:54 p.m.

2:55 p.m.

i will point out that basically every info role has claimed, and i am none of them, though.

2:55 p.m.

i dont really wanna claim, if demon wants to waste a kill gambling on what i could be thats free for them to do

austria- soldier zero- chef 0 allan- ft ray/austria not imp kaz- undertaker ray- invest (either sprig,stella or kaz is scarlet woman) lucas- virgin (our outsider for this game?) amne- washer woman cheetah - empath 1 on kaz and amne

Who were Amne's Washer pings?

good question

2:59 p.m.

why has top 4 come out but not said their pings

2:59 p.m.

unless i missed it

Free's Main

@That_Amnesiac ...

Wat

3:00 p.m.

That would be actually idiotic to give out since I'm literally Steward rn

big if true

3:00 p.m.

actually you kinda are just

3:00 p.m.

a worse steward huh

Yeah

wild

I can out it actually cuz it outs an evil

does it?

3:01 p.m.

it doesnt

That_Amnesiac

I can out it actually cuz it outs an evil

OH WAI5 IT DOESN'T CUZ I CAN SEE DRUNK FOR SOME REASON

3:01 p.m.

it confirms someone with info on Kaz but drunk exists so

idk how that relates but it doesnt because it doesnt have any 100% chance to show an evil

3:02 p.m.

unless youre like, poisoned

3:02 p.m.

oh, i see

Mr. Fish

idk how that relates but it doesnt because it doesnt have any 100% chance to show an evil

It's off of someone else's info

uh wdym by ur steward

(different role, not in this list)

Free's Main

uh wdym by ur steward

Cuz I have an outsider claim in my ping

its a "start knowing 1 good player" role

Steward sees one good player

3:02 p.m.

Tes

so 1 ping is lucas

That_Amnesiac

Cuz I have an outsider claim in my ping

so one of ur targets was lucas

Washer is supposed to learn 2 people and a tf role which is inbetween them but now it's worse Steward lol

Free's Main

so one of ur targets was lucas

Ye

and the other is conf town unless you lied or poisoner was on you n0

Free's Main

and the other is conf town unless you lied or poisoner was on you n0

Or drunk

i mean, theyd still be town

virgin being drunk?

virgin cant be drunk

3:04 p.m.

since its an outsider (for some reason)

Mr. Fish

i mean, theyd still be town

They renamed townsfolk to town so it's impossible to tell what they're talking about

3:04 p.m.

Lol

even though virgin will normally be a pretty fun drunk target

That_Amnesiac

They renamed townsfolk to town so it's impossible to tell what they're talking about

theyd still be good

YES BUT PEOPLE ARE SAYING TOWN

3:05 p.m.

AND NOT GOOD

3:05 p.m.

SO ITS CONFUSINT

im gonna cry

Virgin exe a diff ysk

3:06 p.m.

Wait that does confirm me as good actually

i still think youre a good hit

3:06 p.m.

because of the whole empath thing

3:06 p.m.

if other people want to swap im fine with it though

Unless I'm drunk

Mr. Fish

i still think youre a good hit

Yes

3:06 p.m.

I agreee

3:06 p.m.

Virgin murder me

yeah... we just need 1 more vote before you can hammer

Virgin will confirm me as townsfolk + good or it confirms me as drunk

ye

3:08 p.m.

and spread the empath info!!

Hammer @That_Amnesiac

Day 2 Top

Lunexia pinned a message to this channel. 2024-10-04 1:02 p.m.

1:13 p.m.

@Kazuma info

Ok I suppose I'm either getting framed as evil or drunk

That_Amnesiac

Ok I suppose I'm either getting framed as evil or drunk

Or Virgin was poisoned

53R0 (Zero)

Or Virgin was poisoned

I mean that's unlikely though

I’m watching danmachi, 8 mins

Chat I think I was poisoned because I no longer sense an evil aura but both of them are still alive

Kazuma

I’m watching danmachi, 8 mins

which season

My info is cheeta lucas

1:14 p.m.

Cheetah*

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Chat I think I was poisoned because I no longer sense an evil aura but both of them are still alive

??

Yesterday I sensed an evil aura

Or u were poisoned n1

Today not anymore

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Chat I think I was poisoned because I no longer sense an evil aura but both of them are still alive

Were you poisoned n1 or N2 is the question

If u were poisoned tonight you would have learned a 1

1:15 p.m.

There's no way they just give you a zero that's too obvious lol

That_Amnesiac

Or u were poisoned n1

both virgin and empath cant be poisoned at the same time

Wait poisoner isn't the same

1:15 p.m.

Is it

1:15 p.m.

Auto false

That_Amnesiac

Wait poisoner isn't the same

It's a 1/3 chance to be correct

Free's Main

both virgin and empath cant be poisoned at the same time

The virgin is probably gonna frame me as evil

53R0 (Zero)

Were you poisoned n1 or N2 is the question

Well it has to be one of the nights because this info doesn’t line up

53R0 (Zero)

It's a 1/3 chance to be correct

Gross oversimplification of poisoners ability

That_Amnesiac

The virgin is probably gonna frame me as evil

why would virgin frame you tho

Free's Main

why would virgin frame you tho

Cuz they're not virgin you idiot

That_Amnesiac

Cuz they're not virgin you idiot

kaz would know

1:16 p.m.

‍♂️

Either I'm drunk or they're just fake

1:16 p.m.

Or they're poisoned I guess?????

1:17 p.m.

Or I'm drunk or something

cheetah is defo poisoned, no?

There's a ft claim

FT died

rip

53R0 (Zero)

FT died

That's kinda their fault

1:17 p.m.

To be fair

1:18 p.m.

Like I don't blame them for it

Free's Main

cheetah is defo poisoned, no?

Either night 0 or last night

1:18 p.m.

The info doesn’t line up, can’t be both

You can't have prior knowledge on how to play without playing

1:18 p.m.

But

That_Amnesiac

Cuz they're not virgin you idiot

and why would they fake claim here?

Free's Main

and why would they fake claim here?

BECAUSE THEY'RE EVIL???

drunk cant take up outsider roles

why the fuck

That_Amnesiac

BECAUSE THEY'RE EVIL???

bro virgin would be a dumb claim as evil

Free's Main

drunk cant take up outsider roles

Yes they can

not really?

Oh wait

1:19 p.m.

I read that wrong

If you're baron it's the easiest claim to frame someone

1:19 p.m.

By easiest I mean EASIEST

virgin's only purpose is to get lynched (so why would evil claim that catsit

)

Free's Main

virgin's only purpose is to get lynched (so why would evil claim that catsit

)

Do you

1:20 p.m.

yknow what Read the virgin ability

1:20 p.m.

And then read the baron ability

and we still wait for kaz info

Back, lemme read

That_Amnesiac

And then read the baron ability

Baron If you are on the team, replace two Town roles with Outsider roles. So, what's ur point?

Kazuma

Back, lemme read

Free's Main

which season

5 first ep

Baron has no ability

1:21 p.m.

No active ability*

mm?

They are the minion who makes that play

1:21 p.m.

Like claiming empath with a 2

That_Amnesiac

They are the minion who makes that play

Actually Scarlet woman could make that play as well

What are they gonna do? Kill you?

Free's Main

kaz would know

They’re poisoner so I was probs poisoned

Kazuma

They’re poisoner so I was probs poisoned

? you didnt get any info?

53R0 (Zero)

FT died

Who

Oh

1:22 p.m.

what

That_Amnesiac

What are they gonna do? Kill you?

you don't have an active ability so you don't lose much

thats ur info

1:22 p.m.

Kazuma

Who

Allen the FT claim died

I should probs check info channel

If you can frame a townie or 2 for dying as baron

1:22 p.m.

Do it

Free's Main

thats ur info

Yes

uhh

Okay this is fucking weird. Both Kaz and Cheetah say they were poisoned. That would mean Cheetah was poisoned n0 And then Kaz n1

1:23 p.m.

Which means Amne is technically cleared

1:23 p.m.

Unless Spy

There's an evil in me and Lucas I'm sure of that

53R0 (Zero)

Which means Amne is technically cleared

Cleared how

Kazuma

Cleared how

Empath

1:24 p.m.

They got a 0 last night

Virgin was supposed to kill town no?

Kazuma

Virgin was supposed to kill town no?

yes

53R0 (Zero)

Empath

I have many questions

I'm just going to let zero explain

Free's Main

yes

Then amne isn’t town

53R0 (Zero)

Okay this is fucking weird. Both Kaz and Cheetah say they were poisoned. That would mean Cheetah was poisoned n0 And then Kaz n1

I mean I could’ve been poisoned either night

1:25 p.m.

So this makes sense

1:25 p.m.

Meaning theoretically amne and kaz are town?

1:25 p.m.

But then did Lucas lie

why would lucas as evil fake claim as virgin tho also do we have any other outsider claims?

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Meaning theoretically amne and kaz are town?

Lucas lying or Amne is Spy

Free's Main

why would lucas as evil fake claim as virgin tho also do we have any other outsider claims?

BECAUSE THEY CAN

Those are the only technical answer

Free's Main

why would lucas as evil fake claim as virgin tho also do we have any other outsider claims?

Exactly

53R0 (Zero)

Lucas lying or Amne is Spy

Spy is bad?

That_Amnesiac

BECAUSE THEY CAN

bro what

Kazuma

Spy is bad?

yes

If you have no ability

Kazuma

Spy is bad?

It's a minor that shows up as good

U can die for a bluff

Minion sorey

1:26 p.m.

if you say there's a baron, then who are the other 2 outsiders?

Idk about you guys but common sense from my pov is that we gotta kill amne

Free's Main

if you say there's a baron, then who are the other 2 outsiders?

Or a sw

1:26 p.m.

Like zero said

1:27 p.m.

Also I never said there was a baron I only implied it

That_Amnesiac

Or a sw

sw is b/w kaz, sprig or stella

1:27 p.m.

from my info

Me leave you guys to think bai bai

Kaz

1:27 p.m.

If u think I'm evil then u think cheetah Is evil

1:27 p.m.

Because both you and cheetah can't be poisoned n2

Both of you can't be evil because of my chef info, unless ofc you're spy

Yes so I'm essentially proved by that

1:29 p.m.

Unless you think I'm spy which like

1:29 p.m.

Anyone with mech info on them as good can be spy

Something doesn't feel right

You're right, something isn't right

1:33 p.m.

Gah, okay when I'm off work in like 3-4 hours I'll try to write out all the world views

@Mr. Fish thoughts?

Who tf guaranteed that I won’t die

2:02 p.m.

Lucas Lin 703

Who tf guaranteed that I won’t die

‍♂️

2:04 p.m.

you wouldnt die if amne is town

2:05 p.m.

Someone said I’d not die

Lucas Lin 703

amne's only defense now is to call you evil

Free's Main

amne's only defense now is to call you evil

Mf bo way I’m gonna go and claim a role that wants to die day one

Lucas Lin 703

Mf bo way I’m gonna go and claim a role that wants to die day one

2:06 p.m.

That's what I said

53R0 (Zero)

Both of you can't be evil because of my chef info, unless ofc you're spy

There's sw acc to my info, and by seeing cheetah and kaz, there seems to be poisoner in play too

2:07 p.m.

so its safe to exclude spy ig

2:07 p.m.

(if you trust my info ofc)

2:07 p.m.

‍♂️

2:08 p.m.

@coal @Sprigatito @stella. should we lynch amne tday?

2:08 p.m.

or not

Yes

2:11 p.m.

I want revenge

2:12 p.m.

also yeah

2:12 p.m.

I feel bad for lucas

2:13 p.m.

bro died before losing his virginity

2:13 p.m.

Free's Main

bro died before losing his virginity

Lost it to your mom years ago

2:13 p.m.

Trust

53R0 (Zero)

Unless Spy

Amne is likely spy

Sprigatito

Amne is likely spy

hey

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291823366847856823

Free's Main

hey

i think... maybe lynch ?

Free's Main

There's sw acc to my info, and by seeing cheetah and kaz, there seems to be poisoner in play too

...

do not hammer

It's too much of a coincidence for cheetah & kaz to be poisoned b2b

2:18 p.m.

but still a possibility ig

ye... Amne is trying to make it look like he's Washer Woman but he looks scum

2:19 p.m.

to me

Sprigatito

do not hammer

hmm yea

2:20 p.m.

I'll wait for others to check in

He’s. Ad

2:22 p.m.

Bad

2:22 p.m.

Kill him

NOOO I LOST MY ABILITY TO HELP!!!

allan gamesyt

NOOO I LOST MY ABILITY TO HELP!!!

2:29 p.m.

kinda sad

I was about to investigate zero and kaz. Who was monk on?!?

we dont even know whether monk is in play or not

Bruh

If monk is in play, then L to them for not protecting ya

yea. I was starting to get close to find the demon because we know you and sprigatito are not the demon

2:30 p.m.

then just as i was looking into kaz and zero i get killed

2:30 p.m.

That sucks

@Kazuma are you scum CatGun

2:31 p.m.

I hope not

I’m not reading anything about this ping btw

I still think lucas claim is legit

Free's Main

@Kazuma are you scum CatGun

Im not

Free's Main

I still think lucas claim is legit

Me getting poisoned implies it is

2:32 p.m.

Unless he was fr poisoner

2:32 p.m.

Anyway

2:32 p.m.

Why haven’t we hammered amne

waiting for others ig

2:33 p.m.

and we still have to listen to what amne/zero has to say

So sadly i cannot vote. I can talk though

2:34 p.m.

Im certain with the right information i can lock down the imp without my role

Kazuma

Why haven’t we hammered amne

Your world where I'm evil doesn't make sense so why do you keep pushing on me as evil

2:45 p.m.

If you're poisoned the empath can't be which means I'm good off empath

2:46 p.m.

And if the empath is evil I can't be because of the chef 0

90% of this doesn’t make sense to me im just pushing out of ignorance tbh

I can't be evil unless you think it's specifically me, the chef, and cheetah

Either way virgin kill town you not die you not town

2:46 p.m.

Simple

IS THE VIRGIN CONFIRMED VIRGIN?

Virgin lie why

2:47 p.m.

Virgin lie bad

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE FUCKING VIRGIN

Virgin is virgin

2:47 p.m.

Lucas not whore

????

Kazuma

Virgin is virgin

U don't know this

You call Lucas whore??

Kazuma

Lucas not whore

Harlot is a traveler

You meanie

That_Amnesiac

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE FUCKING VIRGIN

then tell me

2:49 p.m.

what role are they

That_Amnesiac

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE FUCKING VIRGIN

Just shut it

2:54 p.m.

I want to be avenged

Did I cook

3:07 p.m.

@Free's Main @Kazuma

3:16 p.m.

you sure did

Lucas Lin 703

@Free's Main @Kazuma

OMG !!

Lucas Lin 703

@Free's Main @Kazuma

This goes surprisingly hard

lmao

3:32 p.m.

alright guys

3:32 p.m.

im tired

3:32 p.m.

dont hammer until everyone has checked in

3:32 p.m.

Virgin

The first time you would die to being voted out by majority, the player hammering you will die instead, if that player has a Town role.

If your ability kills someone, then all votes on you will be reset and the day continues (if necessary, with an extension to the day timer equivalent to how long the players thought the day had ended).

If the hammering player is not a Town role, you die. If you were poisoned during the previous night, then your ability will not activate and you will die when hammered.

if the virgin claim was true, yea... this could imply scum for Amne

3:35 p.m.

Scum = all minions + demon

Sprigatito

Virgin

The first time you would die to being voted out by majority, the player hammering you will die instead, if that player has a Town role.

If your ability kills someone, then all votes on you will be reset and the day continues (if necessary, with an extension to the day timer equivalent to how long the players thought the day had ended).

If the hammering player is not a Town role, you die. If you were poisoned during the previous night, then your ability will not activate and you will die when hammered.

if the virgin claim was true, yea... this could imply scum for Amne

It also can imply Outsider as Outsider isn't town

3:39 p.m.

Amne as Outsider*

3:39 p.m.

Either way, Amne isn't looking good lol

ye...

Sprigatito

Scum = all minions + demon

outsider isn't scum tho...

3:56 p.m.

but it's not town

53R0 (Zero)

Either way, Amne isn't looking good lol

ye...

I can't be evil unless it's one specific team that's a logic fail

4:04 p.m.

Empath has a good read on me when Kaz thinks they were poisoned

4:04 p.m.

Empath and I can't be evil

4:04 p.m.

So you have to think it's specifically

4:04 p.m.

Me, cheetah, and zero

4:06 p.m.

The world I think is most possible is poisoned virgin n1, poisoned empath n2, with Kaz as evil

Lucas Lin 703

I want to be avenged

It's not my fault you were poisoned

Free's Main

you sure did

Sprigatito

OMG !!

Kazuma

This goes surprisingly hard

That_Amnesiac

It's not my fault you were poisoned

4:17 p.m.

Nah I believe you’re evil n all of them evil with you

4:17 p.m.

Get this mf out of there

That_Amnesiac

Me, cheetah, and zero

B2B2B LYNCHES LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

Free's Main

@Mr. Fish thoughts?

can i get a TLDR?

5:02 p.m.

i just woke up

5:02 p.m.

and im a bit busy

5:03 p.m.

as for TLDR aside i just want to point out there are a lot of reasons amne's ability wouldn't go through

5:04 p.m.

1) Either people are evil 2) Either people are drunk 3) Lucas was poisoned

5:04 p.m.

idk basically those 3, i cant think of more

5:04 p.m.

i don't know what i think of amne right now, im leaning good, personally

5:06 p.m.

on the other hand, amne was slightly trying to get us to not have him hammer it

5:07 p.m.

i dont have time to backread RN and im gonna go do some stuff, if someone could tell me what info we have gained id appreciate it

Mr. Fish

1) Either people are evil 2) Either people are drunk 3) Lucas was poisoned

also just remembered they cant be drunk cause virgins an outsider, scratch that off

Mr. Fish

also just remembered they cant be drunk cause virgins an outsider, scratch that off

Unless Baron

true, in which case specifically lucas cant be drunk

Yes, Amne would be the drunk

idk i have another world in my mind

My world ATM is Amne is Spy

i feel like we wouldve heard of another outsider in a baron game

5:24 p.m.

drunk cant claim obviously but

5:24 p.m.

there should be 3

Saint wouldn't claim in most instances

5:25 p.m.

As it's basically a desperado

53R0 (Zero)

My world ATM is Amne is Spy

in lune's dystopian future spy ALWAYS registers good btw

Mhm, so if Cheetah was n0 poisoned, that still makes sense

5:26 p.m.

As Kaz would be the "misping"

i can see it being cheetah into kaz poisoned (btw i said i wasnt gonna backread and i did anyways i should probably do my classwork lol)

(Yeah do your classwork then back read)

(yeah i should probably finish classwork before finishing backreading

)

the two theories fmpov atm : lucas is poisoned n1, kaz/cheetah poisoned n2? something isn’t adding up with kaz/cheetah here amne is scum but cheetah/kaz are still getting conflicting information third option lucas is lying but for what reason? we had a sw ping for other minion but he wasn’t in it poisoner should be ig

5:49 p.m.

cheetah got 1+ n1, 0 n2 - if she’s scum why not keep consistent information? i mean i suppose bad guys want chaos kaz claimed under d1 and got poisoner on lucas ow i bonked my head lmao

5:50 p.m.

that hurt

5:50 p.m.

anyways

5:51 p.m.

amne is a washer claim / kaz under claim / cheetah empath

5:51 p.m.

nothing is adding up

5:51 p.m.

i don’t get it

5:54 p.m.

because if amne is scum what is happening with cheetah and kaz’ s results

53R0 (Zero)

My world ATM is Amne is Spy

Everyone can be fucking spy

6:19 p.m.

Tbh I hate spy in this

6:19 p.m.

It's not good

6:19 p.m.

It's like

6:19 p.m.

Fully impossible to solve

6:20 p.m.

Also why tf can't it just be a drunk ping

6:20 p.m.

a drunk game*

6:20 p.m.

And also if I was spy, the virgin would kill me

6:23 p.m.

I would have gotten virgin killed if I was the spy

@stella. did i cook

Lucas Lin 703

@stella. did i cook

lol it’s very impressive gjgj

7:12 p.m.

i don’t get the world where amne is spy - it tracks with amne scum but how does it explain cheetah/kaz results

stella.

i don’t get the world where amne is spy - it tracks with amne scum but how does it explain cheetah/kaz results

I would've been killed by virgin if I was spy with ww bluff

7:29 p.m.

I register as a tf

stella.

lol it’s very impressive gjgj

stella.

nothing is adding up

yep

That_Amnesiac

I would've been killed by virgin if I was spy with ww bluff

in the real game probably? but here it says that only town roles can die by virgin and idk if a virgin kill is an investigation

Oh

9:27 p.m.

That's

9:28 p.m.

Stupid

stella.

in the real game probably? but here it says that only town roles can die by virgin and idk if a virgin kill is an investigation

In real botc they have misregististratipn so like any ability that exists and affects someone based off of alignment (virgin, Lycan) can activate on the basis they're good

avenge me

9:47 p.m.

avenge meee

9:47 p.m.

im a ghosttttttt

9:48 p.m.

avenge meeeeeeeeeeeeee

9:48 p.m.

avenge meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

@Lucas Lin 703 were you actually virgin

I was fortune teller. I was on the hunt for the demon and i died. All i know is free and sprigatito are not the demon. Kaz and zero were my recent targets and i got killed before hand

I want full marks (Cheetah)

@Lucas Lin 703 were you actually virgin

Pretty sure since they were talking about being avenged I want to say yes?

Anyways was I poisoned n0 or n1

But to be completely fair, is it possible Kaz isn't actually poisoned and this was actually a ploy to kill Amne lol

10:16 p.m.

You'd still be poisoned n0, and then nobody was poisoned since the poisoner is le ded

10:17 p.m.

Though that does feel wrong, it's probably at least good to consider all possibilities even if they are unlikely

I feel like if monk is in this game they are throwing the match

10:27 p.m.

monk you shouldve been on me. This whole game i was to be monks target. The fortune teller is the ONLY role besides the slayer role that can determine who the demon is. On another note slayer has 1 chance at finding the demon. I had infinite

I want full marks (Cheetah)

@Lucas Lin 703 were you actually virgin

Yea lmao

ok so lucas was virgin. I was fortune teller. Monk is throwing the game somehow. Free and sprigatito are confirmed not a demon. Everyone else is still iffy, plus me and lucas are dead so theres only 9 players left. With how many scum alive?

Lucas Lin 703

Yea lmao

Amne didn’t die

10:31 p.m.

So

10:31 p.m.

Is amne evil

Wait just a damn second...

10:32 p.m.

Was lucas hammered?

Yes

10:33 p.m.

So either Lucas lied or amne evil

GET WHOEVER HAMMERED HIM!

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Is amne evil

AVENGE ME WHAT

10:33 p.m.

XD

10:33 p.m.

LUCAS' ROLE JUST CAUGHT A EVIL

MOTHER FUCKERSSSSS KILL THE EVILSSSSS

10:34 p.m.

RAAAAAAA

10:34 p.m.

DEATH TO HER

IF A TOWN WAS THE ONE TO HAMMER LUCAS THE TOWN MEMBER WOULDVE BEEN LYNCHED INSTEAD!

EXACTLY

10:34 p.m.

DEATH TO HER

LYNCH WHOEVER HAMMERED LUCAS SINCE LUCAS IS APPERANTLY VIRGIN

I WANT MY SEATH AVENGED

allan gamesyt

LYNCH WHOEVER HAMMERED LUCAS SINCE LUCAS IS APPERANTLY VIRGIN

YESSS

10:34 p.m.

@That_Amnesiac YOUR DEATH IS NEAR

Its a shame we cant vote lucas

10:35 p.m.

but you know what you played godmode here XD

10:35 p.m.

AMNE IS CAUGHT RED HANDED

10:35 p.m.

HAMMER AMNE

10:36 p.m.

AMNE IS CONFIRMED EVIL BY VIRGIN ROLE

10:37 p.m.

Sorry @That_Amnesiac you played yourself here

10:38 p.m.

@Alive Line SP lynch @That_Amnesiac if they were the one to hammer lucas and lucas WAS the virgin then that means amne is evil because only a town member hammering virgin wouldve died in virgins place

Are you actually stupid

10:39 p.m.

There's literally 4 different ways

10:39 p.m.

That it can go wrong

10:39 p.m.

Not stupid but like

10:39 p.m.

Gross oversimplification

allan gamesyt

@Alive Line SP lynch @That_Amnesiac if they were the one to hammer lucas and lucas WAS the virgin then that means amne is evil because only a town member hammering virgin wouldve died in virgins place

YES

10:39 p.m.

FINALLY YOU GET IT

ALSO WHY WOULD I HAMMER A VIRGIN IF I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA SLAM ME

10:39 p.m.

????

That_Amnesiac

ALSO WHY WOULD I HAMMER A VIRGIN IF I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA SLAM ME

.

That_Amnesiac

ALSO WHY WOULD I HAMMER A VIRGIN IF I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA SLAM ME

BECAUSE YOURE STUPID

10:39 p.m.

RAAAAAA

IF I'M THE SPY I WOULD'VE FUCKING READ MY ROLE

JUST VOTENIT

10:40 p.m.

VOTE HER IFF

10:40 p.m.

Lucas Lin 703

BECAUSE YOURE STUPID

I KNOW HOW FUCKING VIRGIN WORKS YOU MFKER

AVENGE MEEEEE

That_Amnesiac

I KNOW HOW FUCKING VIRGIN WORKS YOU MFKER

YEA RIGH

10:40 p.m.

SHHHH

STOP TUNNELING ME CUZ U GOT KILLED

RAAAAAAA

THAT'S NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE EVIL

amne just give up theres only 2 reasons you shouldve shouldve survived lucas as lucas was virgin

That_Amnesiac

STOP TUNNELING ME CUZ U GOT KILLED

DEATH TO THE KILLER

allan

10:40 p.m.

Why would I hammer lucas

10:40 p.m.

If I was evil

Lucas are you SURE you were actually virgin

That_Amnesiac

Why would I hammer lucas

YOU FORGOT YOU DIDNT POISON ME

10:40 p.m.

RAAAAAA

you do it quite a bit amne

Lucas Lin 703

YOU FORGOT YOU DIDNT POISON ME

I'M LITERALLY A FUCKING BOTC EXPERT

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Lucas are you SURE you were actually virgin

Mf it says on my fucking screen virign

I KNOW HOW VIRGIN WORKS

Do you see any other virign claims?

I KNOW HOW SPY WORKS

That_Amnesiac

I'M LITERALLY A FUCKING BOTC EXPERT

YEA RIGHTTT

That_Amnesiac

I'M LITERALLY A FUCKING BOTC EXPERT

X FOR DOUBT

I KNOW THAT SPY IS CHANGED IN THIS

That_Amnesiac

I KNOW HOW VIRGIN WORKS

DEATH TO THE NON BELIEVER

allan gamesyt

X FOR DOUBT

X

allan gamesyt

X FOR DOUBT

I know how botc works

10:41 p.m.

Like

That_Amnesiac

I KNOW THAT SPY IS CHANGED IN THIS

RAAAA SUREEEE

10:41 p.m.

DEATH TO THE NON BELIEVER

Amne your not escaping this

Allan

you are evil

I WANT MY DEATH AVENGED

Its the only way

I WANTED TO PLAY LONGER BUT YOU RUINED IT

10:42 p.m.

RAAAAAA

UR A FUCKING VIRGIN

Lucas Lin 703

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Everyone has seen this

10:42 p.m.

There's no reason to spam it

That_Amnesiac

UR A FUCKING VIRGIN

LOST IT TO YOUR MOM IRL 13 YEARS AGO

i wanted tp play longer too but the monk got me killed by not defending me

That_Amnesiac

Everyone has seen this

PROPAGANDA

Lucas Lin 703

LOST IT TO YOUR MOM IRL 13 YEARS AGO

STOP FUCKING TUNNELING ME

RAAAAAA

That_Amnesiac

STOP FUCKING TUNNELING ME

RAAA YOURE BAD

amne. Listen

GET OFF MY FUCKING ASS THIS IS MAKING YOU LOOK MORE EVIL

We should at least try to maybe explore something other than Amne. Plus we don't even have all the info

ME BEING EVIL IS A LOGIC FAIL

10:43 p.m.

THERE'S NO FUCKING LOGIC AT ALL

10:43 p.m.

NO LOGIC TO FAIL

10:43 p.m.

THERE IS NONE

That_Amnesiac

GET OFF MY FUCKING ASS THIS IS MAKING YOU LOOK MORE EVIL

YOURE SO SMART A EVIL CLAIMS A ROLE THAT WANTS TO GET KILLED DAY ONE

That_Amnesiac

THERE IS NONE

YEA YOU GOT NO LOGIC

Lucas Lin 703

YOURE SO SMART A EVIL CLAIMS A ROLE THAT WANTS TO GET KILLED DAY ONE

DO YOU KNOW WHAT FUCKING BARON IS

53R0 (Zero)

We should at least try to maybe explore something other than Amne. Plus we don't even have all the info

AVENGE MEEEE

10:43 p.m.

RAAAAAA

U CAN FUCKING DIE IN BOTC

IT'S NOT LIKE REGULAR FORUM MAFIA

That_Amnesiac

DO YOU KNOW WHAT FUCKING BARON IS

RAAA IDC

DYING IS A THINK YOU CAN DO AS EVIL

I WANT DEATH TO THE MAN WHO MURDERED ME

ON PURPOSE

10:43 p.m.

IT'S NOT THROWING

That_Amnesiac

U CAN FUCKING DIE IN BOTC

RAAAAA

AMNE CLAIM YOUR ACTUAL ROLE

DEATHHHHH

AND GIVE YOUR INFO

Lucas Lin 703

AVENGE MEEEE

No. You're being idiotic. This screamfest needs to stop. You two stop yelling.

I want full marks (Cheetah)

AMNE CLAIM YOUR ACTUAL ROLE

I DID YOU FUCKING IDIOT

10:44 p.m.

WASHERWOMAN

Your a good friend of mine. But lucas being virgin and you surviving being lynched on hammer instead of him surviving? Only way your doing that is by being evil because i doubt anyone would instantly go "oh let me poison this guy because i know what his role is on game start!"

CHEETAH LUCAS

That_Amnesiac

WASHERWOMAN

Oh

CLEARLY YOU'RE CONFIRMED

53R0 (Zero)

No. You're being idiotic. This screamfest needs to stop. You two stop yelling.

Avenge me

for what

That_Amnesiac

WASHERWOMAN

Mf then how did I die

10:44 p.m.

Mf

Lucas Lin 703

Mf then how did I die

Evil

10:44 p.m.

Poisoned

10:44 p.m.

I'm drunk

That_Amnesiac

Poisoned

That’s a fucking lie

JUST BECAUSE YOU HARD CLAIM A ROLE D1 DOESN'T MEAN UR AUTOMATICALLY THAT ROLE

Cuz I know damn well no one’s out there poisoning a dude with less than a game played here

guys im the real virgin

"PEOPLE LIE? IN MY BOTC???" - you rn

its really sad...

That_Amnesiac

JUST BECAUSE YOU HARD CLAIM A ROLE D1 DOESN'T MEAN UR AUTOMATICALLY THAT ROLE

Is there any cc?

Mr. Fish

guys im the real virgin

YOOOOO

Lucas Lin 703

Is there any cc?

this is botc

not ingame though

10:45 p.m.

Lucas Lin 703

Is there any cc?

Drunk

10:45 p.m.

Ur not confirmed by outsider count

That_Amnesiac

this is botc

All I heard was a skill issue coming from your end of the room

Because drunk exists

Mr. Fish

not ingame though

Dw irl is fine

lucas you are very annoying sounding right now

That_Amnesiac

Ur not confirmed by outsider count

Skill issue just lynch you

Mr. Fish

lucas you are very annoying sounding right now

Ty I know

Lucas Lin 703

All I heard was a skill issue coming from your end of the room

All I heard was you can't fucking play social deduction and are tunneling me because you can't fathom a world where a good player can hammer a good player

OR UR EVIL

That_Amnesiac

All I heard was you can't fucking play social deduction and are tunneling me because you can't fathom a world where a good player can hammer a good player

All I heard is that you’re evil

WHICH IS LOOKING MORE AND MORE LIKELY

That_Amnesiac

OR UR EVIL

Im so smart I’ll go claim a role that wants to die day one as a evil

10:46 p.m.

Im so smart

10:46 p.m.

Use your fucking eyes

10:47 p.m.

And read what I've been saying

i personally think lucas is evil ngl

That_Amnesiac

And read what I've been saying

Im good bro

thats why i havent voted amne

Lucas Lin 703

Im good bro

If ur spy u can die

I died

If ur sw u can die

Therefore you’re evil

If ur baron you can die

Lucas Lin 703

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Chinese chess propaganda

All minimal consequences

10:47 p.m.

You're literally just outting yourself as evil

RAAAAA YOURE BAD

That_Amnesiac

You're literally just outting yourself as evil

You right bro

10:48 p.m.

Im def evil

10:48 p.m.

Anyways imma go sleep

10:48 p.m.

I have sat tmr

Well- thanks for admitting it lugthink

Night night

Lucas Lin 703

Im def evil

WHO WANTED TO DIE D1??? UNFATHOMABLE

10:48 p.m.

CAN'T BE POSSIBLE

53R0 (Zero)

Well- thanks for admitting it lugthink

Don’t worry I got you

That_Amnesiac

WHO WANTED TO DIE D1??? UNFATHOMABLE

Yea most intelligent evil claiming virign day one

10:48 p.m.

Im so smart

10:48 p.m.

Actually imma do my eye patch

You actually evil lucas?

Lucas Lin 703

Yea most intelligent evil claiming virign day one

Miniona can and will claim bluffs that get them killed because 3/4 minions don't have consequences

My eyes hurt too much texting

Lucas Lin 703

Yea most intelligent evil claiming virign day one

Do you know what framing is

allan gamesyt

You actually evil lucas?

I can kill with sarcasm

10:49 p.m.

Trust

whats your actual role lucas

allan gamesyt

whats your actual role lucas

I litterally said it

10:49 p.m.

Virgin

Ok

imagine imp SW pass

"produce false evidence against (an innocent person) so that they appear guilty."

10:49 p.m.

That's what framing means

Bro y’all figure it out

10:49 p.m.

Just avenge me

Evil can die to do that

10:50 p.m.

Evil isn't a "all live wincon* its like vip

So only way you die is by evil hammering you. Or you were poisoned n0

Imma go do my eye patch

Minions are sacrificial.

Who was poisoned n0

allan gamesyt

So only way you die is by evil hammering you. Or you were poisoned n0

Outsiders exist

allan gamesyt

So only way you die is by evil hammering you. Or you were poisoned n0

Why tf would someone poison a guy that has less than one game and looks garbage

The outsider in play is a drunk

Outsider is town aligned amne

I got modkilled

There's no version

Litterally zero reason to poison me

allan gamesyt

Outsider is town aligned amne

Tell me you don't know what character types are without telling me

allan gamesyt

So only way you die is by evil hammering you. Or you were poisoned n0

(or amne is drunk with a silent outsider or is evil)

Imma go do eye patch

10:51 p.m.

Night night

Town Outsider Minion Demon

That_Amnesiac

Tell me you don't know what character types are without telling me

it.. it is though?

10:51 p.m.

what do you mean

Virgin hits town

10:51 p.m.

Not outsiders

oh thats what you mean

10:51 p.m.

lol

virgin doesn't say

10:51 p.m.

"Good"

10:51 p.m.

It says specifically town

this is why we shouldnt have renamed Townsfolk to Town

10:51 p.m.

why did we do this btw

EXACTLY

Mr. Fish

why did we do this btw

idk people here are dumb

Im not fighting this anymore im gonna go write my story i really dont need to talk

That_Amnesiac

idk people here are dumb

It was to simplify for them

can you all stop talking for like 5 minutes while I type up a world?

to be fair you can do it while they talk

I am but I don't wanna post it and then nobody see it

fair fair

I'm not good at world building yay

Well I guess I'm going for this world then. Lucas claimed Virgin as that was one of the bluffs, but didn't realize Virgin wants to die D1. They poisoned Cheetah night 0, and they ended up getting wrong information. Amne is possibly the drunk (or hell maybe I could be). Allen in almost every world is good due to dying so early. I don't see any reason to star pass as imp when you clearly have a game plan of executing Amne quickly. So in all: Cheetah is likely poisoned n1 by Lucas who got a wrong ping of 1. Lucas's neighbors aren't evil in most circumstances. Kaz's information would technically be correct if Lucas is evil because poisoner is just Dead So honestly, the evils are between Stella / Fish / Coal / Sprig and if we wanna a tiny crazy. Cheetah lol. Because if Lucas is Evil, we know the minions are Scarlet Woman and Poisoner There are 0 pairs of evils which means if Lucas is evil then Free and Kaz are town. Amne is also "confirmed" due to Cheetah and this entire thing. Amne also confirmed Cheetah due to their info. Allen's targets... I forgot but I believe who I mentioned can still be minions if not demons?

11:03 p.m.

Just thinking mechanically Amne has to many things going for them to be evil

Too long didn’t read

Well to bad

Lucas don’t deathtunnel someone like that

11:18 p.m.

There are mechanics like

11:18 p.m.

Drunk

11:18 p.m.

Poison

11:18 p.m.

And all that

11:19 p.m.

If amne is drunk technically he wouldn’t die

11:19 p.m.

Because drunk is outsider

11:19 p.m.

But if he’s drunk

11:19 p.m.

Then you’re not virgin

Lucas Lin 703

Too long didn’t read

Me when I ignore a world because i don like how it has no flaws and is correct

53R0 (Zero)

Well I guess I'm going for this world then. Lucas claimed Virgin as that was one of the bluffs, but didn't realize Virgin wants to die D1. They poisoned Cheetah night 0, and they ended up getting wrong information. Amne is possibly the drunk (or hell maybe I could be). Allen in almost every world is good due to dying so early. I don't see any reason to star pass as imp when you clearly have a game plan of executing Amne quickly. So in all: Cheetah is likely poisoned n1 by Lucas who got a wrong ping of 1. Lucas's neighbors aren't evil in most circumstances. Kaz's information would technically be correct if Lucas is evil because poisoner is just Dead So honestly, the evils are between Stella / Fish / Coal / Sprig and if we wanna a tiny crazy. Cheetah lol. Because if Lucas is Evil, we know the minions are Scarlet Woman and Poisoner There are 0 pairs of evils which means if Lucas is evil then Free and Kaz are town. Amne is also "confirmed" due to Cheetah and this entire thing. Amne also confirmed Cheetah due to their info. Allen's targets... I forgot but I believe who I mentioned can still be minions if not demons?

In terms of my targets zero. On n0 i targetted free and sprigatito. They both came back as not a demon. Then n1 i died before i got results

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Then you’re not virgin

(or a third outsider is being silent in a baron game)

makes sense

5:25 a.m.

what if any one of them become demon cuz of the Scarlet Woman.

5:25 a.m.

?

53R0 (Zero)

Well I guess I'm going for this world then. Lucas claimed Virgin as that was one of the bluffs, but didn't realize Virgin wants to die D1. They poisoned Cheetah night 0, and they ended up getting wrong information. Amne is possibly the drunk (or hell maybe I could be). Allen in almost every world is good due to dying so early. I don't see any reason to star pass as imp when you clearly have a game plan of executing Amne quickly. So in all: Cheetah is likely poisoned n1 by Lucas who got a wrong ping of 1. Lucas's neighbors aren't evil in most circumstances. Kaz's information would technically be correct if Lucas is evil because poisoner is just Dead So honestly, the evils are between Stella / Fish / Coal / Sprig and if we wanna a tiny crazy. Cheetah lol. Because if Lucas is Evil, we know the minions are Scarlet Woman and Poisoner There are 0 pairs of evils which means if Lucas is evil then Free and Kaz are town. Amne is also "confirmed" due to Cheetah and this entire thing. Amne also confirmed Cheetah due to their info. Allen's targets... I forgot but I believe who I mentioned can still be minions if not demons?

as in, likely me. NOT Free.

5:26 a.m.

hmmmmmm...

5:27 a.m.

there's a load of evidence regarding Amne being a scum

5:29 a.m.

Stella / Fish / Coal / Sprig / (Cheetah ?)

5:30 a.m.

^ potential scum list (scum = demon + minions and not outsiders)

Sprigatito

there's a load of evidence regarding Amne being a scum

hence we vote him out, if more people agree to Amne being scum

Why have we still not hammered amne

Sprigatito

there's a load of evidence regarding Amne being a scum

Let's lay it all out then

So Amne is scum for these reasons right?: Virgin didn't activate on them They were hesitant to hammer Virgin Cheetah got a 1 on n0 and then a 0 on n1. Is this all? Or is there more?

im going to sleep and im sorry for not contributing much today

8:49 a.m.

ive been playing a game with some friends literally all day

8:49 a.m.

but i do want to say i scum read lucas and town read amne

8:49 a.m.

which is my 50 cents

8:49 a.m.

its unlikely mechanically but yeah

8:49 a.m.

anyways gn

no worries

8:51 a.m.

also gn Mr Fish

Kazuma

Why have we still not hammered amne

Should I vote

53R0 (Zero)

So Amne is scum for these reasons right?: Virgin didn't activate on them They were hesitant to hammer Virgin Cheetah got a 1 on n0 and then a 0 on n1. Is this all? Or is there more?

if i was evil why would i decide to hammer virgin

10:27 a.m.

and also

10:28 a.m.

i wasnt hesitant

10:28 a.m.

theres a thing cald

10:28 a.m.

alled

10:28 a.m.

called

10:28 a.m.

"being unavailable"

That_Amnesiac

if i was evil why would i decide to hammer virgin

I was saying that's why people are suspecting you, I personally don't believe it

yeah im just defending where people will notice it

10:29 a.m.

not like anyone will care though because the main response to my defense is "idc im not reading it too long"

10:29 a.m.

like

10:29 a.m.

the main push on me also

10:29 a.m.

is

10:30 a.m.

"i want revenge because i died, cant possibly be anything other than amne evil, poisoner isnt a real thing, drunk isnt a real thing"

10:30 a.m.

WHICH IS SO STUPID that i think lucas is evil.

10:30 a.m.

we should consider options other than me

10:30 a.m.

because if you hard tunnel 1 person the whole day for the rest of the game

10:30 a.m.

literally just forfeit the game now

10:30 a.m.

you wont win if you only consider one possibility.

10:32 a.m.

like this isnt even necessarily related to just this game if you play clocktower and tunnel one possibility you lose 90% of the games

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Should I vote

Yesh

10:47 a.m.

Oh you did

10:47 a.m.

Mb

53R0 (Zero)

Well I guess I'm going for this world then. Lucas claimed Virgin as that was one of the bluffs, but didn't realize Virgin wants to die D1. They poisoned Cheetah night 0, and they ended up getting wrong information. Amne is possibly the drunk (or hell maybe I could be). Allen in almost every world is good due to dying so early. I don't see any reason to star pass as imp when you clearly have a game plan of executing Amne quickly. So in all: Cheetah is likely poisoned n1 by Lucas who got a wrong ping of 1. Lucas's neighbors aren't evil in most circumstances. Kaz's information would technically be correct if Lucas is evil because poisoner is just Dead So honestly, the evils are between Stella / Fish / Coal / Sprig and if we wanna a tiny crazy. Cheetah lol. Because if Lucas is Evil, we know the minions are Scarlet Woman and Poisoner There are 0 pairs of evils which means if Lucas is evil then Free and Kaz are town. Amne is also "confirmed" due to Cheetah and this entire thing. Amne also confirmed Cheetah due to their info. Allen's targets... I forgot but I believe who I mentioned can still be minions if not demons?

what do you mean amne has too many things mech to be scum?

11:11 a.m.

i disagree with the take lucas is scum/poisoner though because, 1. if you're going for the world lucas is poisoner and took a demon/spy bluff the evil team would surely be communicating and thats essentially throwing their biggest shot 2. lucas is some random scum which i also dont see because lucas claimed neutral before claiming town so no survival instincts 3. in their argument with amne above, amne looked considerably worse off than lucas on the other hand kaz/cheetah are both on amne and in the event he's town someone is bussing or we have something else

11:17 a.m.

the playerlist is looking a bit like alive: austria- soldier ~~allan- ft ray/austria not imp~~ zero- chef 0 kaz- undertaker [n1. lucas poison] ray- invest (probably time to reveal info tbh) ~~lucas- virgin~~ amne- washer idk their pings stella- coal- fish- cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0]

The only thing keeping me from voting Amne rn is the conflicting info from Kaz and Cheetah.

11:18 a.m.

They both can't be poisoned

11:18 a.m.

Which is why I said there's mechanics saying Amne is good

thats in the event theyre both good but they did both push amne

11:19 a.m.

could be sw play

SW play I can see, but would Kaz be the poisoner in this circumstance then?

sw imo

11:20 a.m.

id say poisoner is more... quiet than that

Hm, I can see that. I apologize my world was flawed

its botc theres a million possibilities (usually)

It kind of tunneled that Lucas was confirmed evil (which I still think they are)

i strongly disagree with that stance tho

Understandable, cause if Kaz is SW hoping to make us think Poisoner is dead we'd be able to "rely" on info

11:23 a.m.

So that begs the question then, would killing Amne actually solve anything

omg

11:24 a.m.

lucas was poisoned n1, empath got kaz/amne, empath poisoned n2 kaz could be solo

11:24 a.m.

thats what my new theory is

11:25 a.m.

solo scum in this mess*

11:26 a.m.

i wasnt convinced on the vein both are evil

They both can't be evil you're right

11:26 a.m.

(my info basically confirms no neighbors are evil)

11:26 a.m.

Since spy isn't in play (thanks Kaz for outing that info)

11:27 a.m.

So Kaz solo evil is quite possible... lugthink

what did kaz out?

Kaz outed that poisoner is in play

theyre invest claim right?

under

No they are undertaker claim

oh

11:29 a.m.

so

11:29 a.m.

virgin claim was pois

Possibly yes

wait undertaker probably got changed

11:29 a.m.

Each night you will learn the role of the player who was voted out the previous day. The recluse will show up as a random Minion. The Spy is seen as the extra bluff he received. If poisoned, you will learn that the player voted out was the Poisoner.

11:30 a.m.

okay

11:30 a.m.

thats probably poisoned info imo

11:30 a.m.

i dont think thats a pois play i think its a sw spy or baron play

53R0 (Zero)

Since spy isn't in play (thanks Kaz for outing that info)

but how does that confirm not spy

That_Amnesiac

but how does that confirm not spy

It doesn't now I didn't know Undertaker changed that way

11:31 a.m.

My bad

lol

That_Amnesiac

but how does that confirm not spy

imo zero took invest info to be true + poison to be true therefore no spy room

its pretty much reg undertaker with a small debuff

53R0 (Zero)

So that begs the question then, would killing Amne actually solve anything

I don’t think it’ll solve as much as it would if it was a flip game

11:32 a.m.

But botc is flipless

yeah so kaz is pushing me off of info they know to be false/

Soo

11:32 a.m.

I should just unvote

That_Amnesiac

yeah so kaz is pushing me off of info they know to be false/

lol

Considering nobody has outed themselves as Outsider that's rather telling

11:33 a.m.

(other than Lucas ofc)

so its pois and

11:34 a.m.

sw

11:34 a.m.

?

11:34 a.m.

(im guessing what the inv info is cuz idk it)

11:34 a.m.

(i forgot)

i think its true

11:35 a.m.

uhh inv info sprig/stella/kaz sw

11:35 a.m.

wow that supports my theory

yeah thats probably sprig

imo im right

That_Amnesiac

yeah thats probably sprig

what?

sprig or kaz

11:35 a.m.

i dont think its u

11:35 a.m.

and sprig voted me

11:35 a.m.

without talking

11:35 a.m.

for seemingly no reason

its...kaz

well

11:35 a.m.

if its kaz

11:36 a.m.

we cant trust that its pois

11:36 a.m.

which brings us to spy again

Cheetah's info confirms poisoner exists tho

11:36 a.m.

also isnt spy 100% unsolvable btw?

53R0 (Zero)

Cheetah's info confirms poisoner exists tho

oh that is true

kaz/cheetah doesnt work as a scum team

so its pois and sw anyway

11:37 a.m.

it cant not be pois

11:37 a.m.

cuz if cheetah is evil kaz is good

11:37 a.m.

which means pois

11:37 a.m.

and if cheetah is good

11:37 a.m.

it also means

11:38 a.m.

pois

11:38 a.m.

so its locked poisoner

11:38 a.m.

unless you think its kaz cheetah and the chef

11:38 a.m.

which like

thats true nothing "doesnt work" but i dont see it being true

stella.

thats true nothing "doesnt work" but i dont see it being true

yeah if cheetah was a minion they wouldnt give a 1 on another evil player

11:40 a.m.

its pretty much locked poisoner

11:40 a.m.

unless kaz is evil with cheetah and chef

11:40 a.m.

and kaz is a good exe there

11:41 a.m.

and kaz is a good exe in pois

11:41 a.m.

so kaz is just a good exe imo

Kaz isn't poisoner but I would very much like SW dead before tomorrow then we can actually demon hunt

oop daylight savings happened

12:07 p.m.

i woke up at 12:30am and now i cant sleep ugh

12:08 p.m.

pan american daylight savings... it ends on the 3rd of November

12:08 p.m.

...

12:09 p.m.

meanwhile, with the pan european daylight savings... it ends on the 27th of Octover

12:09 p.m.

October

12:09 p.m.

️

lol

12:09 p.m.

in east australia it happens today

12:09 p.m.

what does pan mean?

12:10 p.m.

hehe it means summer is coming for me tho yayspin

i love summer

in the grouping of a particular continent

12:10 p.m.

it's autumn for most of us northern hemisphere people

12:10 p.m.

and it's tropical in India

Sprigatito

used /emote

always tropical

ur geography is so good wow

12:11 p.m.

more nuanced the closer you go to the Equator

12:12 p.m.

it's incredibly close in like, places such as Singapore (1 deg north) and Bali (8 deg south)

12:12 p.m.

and more pronounced the further away you go from the Equator

12:12 p.m.

forever night in Norway during Christmas

️

12:13 p.m.

"forever" meaning 24 hr night

12:13 p.m.

not, permanently

12:13 p.m.

️

12:13 p.m.

24 hr day during summer

12:13 p.m.

oh dearrrrrrrrr in Juneeeeeee

norway sounds messed up lol

Svarlbard is more

cos id assume its degrees of moving towards a full 24 hours of sun/moon and moving away

12:14 p.m.

sounds touristy tho

✅

Wtf has happened

12:28 p.m.

How am I on 3

53R0 (Zero)

Understandable, cause if Kaz is SW hoping to make us think Poisoner is dead we'd be able to "rely" on info

I haven’t pushed such a ba worldview tho wth

12:34 p.m.

*bs

53R0 (Zero)

Since spy isn't in play (thanks Kaz for outing that info)

How did I do that

???

That_Amnesiac

virgin claim was pois

Why would pois claim virgin

just came back

12:37 p.m.

It seems the chat became active while I was gone

Kazuma

Why would pois claim virgin

You act like I knew that Undertaker was changed to be weird then

I am disgusted

12:38 p.m.

Appalled

Kazuma

I am disgusted

why are people voting you COPIUM

That_Amnesiac

You act like I knew that Undertaker was changed to be weird then

I know nothing about Botc wtf do you mean

Free's Main

why are people voting you COPIUM

Because theres info on them to be sw

Free's Main

why are people voting you COPIUM

Some form of mental retardation I assume

Kazuma

I know nothing about Botc wtf do you mean

I'll show u regular one

That_Amnesiac

Because theres info on them to be sw

yeah and?

That_Amnesiac

Because theres info on them to be sw

What info

'Each night*, you learn which character died by execution today."

12:39 p.m.

This one is different.

12:39 p.m.

This one always shows pois

12:39 p.m.

When it's poisoned

Free's Main

yeah and?

Scarlet woman is an evil role if you didn't know

12:40 p.m.

It's conf pois and sw

That_Amnesiac

Scarlet woman is an evil role if you didn't know

Ik but im asking whether ur lynching kaz based on that reason alone?

Free's Main

Ik but im asking whether ur lynching kaz based on that reason alone?

Ignore him and vote

Kaz

12:40 p.m.

To you

12:41 p.m.

I literally can't be spy

12:41 p.m.

And I'm in an empath zero

12:41 p.m.

That u think to be true

12:41 p.m.

Because u are claiming poisoned n2

That_Amnesiac

I literally can't be spy

My brother stop trying to reason with me I do NOT know what’s going on

MY BRO

12:41 p.m.

MY MANS

12:41 p.m.

12:42 p.m.

Ok so u said u saw Lucas as pois

12:42 p.m.

Correct

Yes

Which doesn't make sense

Wy

So you're essentially claiming poisoned

12:42 p.m.

Correct

Yes

Ok and that was n2

12:43 p.m.

When the empath in between us

12:43 p.m.

Learned a 0

You’ve lost me

On n2 cheetah, the empath, learned a zero.

12:44 p.m.

Which, from your POV, cannot be poisoned.

12:44 p.m.

And, using the chef info, I can't be evil with cheetah.

12:44 p.m.

And, according to you, pois is in play.

12:44 p.m.

And according to the invest sw is in play

12:44 p.m.

So spy isn't in play

12:44 p.m.

And mech info says I'm good

That_Amnesiac

On n2 cheetah, the empath, learned a zero.

What was her n1

1

That_Amnesiac

And mech info says I'm good

lucas died lol

12:45 p.m.

are you implying that both lucas and kaz are scum?

Free's Main

lucas died lol

Read literally anything I said

uhh

That_Amnesiac

1

So her poisoned n1

12:45 p.m.

Ez

Kazuma

So her poisoned n1

Yes

12:45 p.m.

The empath says I'm good

Kazuma

So her poisoned n1

Which means that Amne is good

That_Amnesiac

Read literally anything I said

Ik but you might just be misleading us cuz we dont know much about botc

In worlds where Kaz is good I have to be good

I see I see

12:45 p.m.

Why you not die tho

The only world where pois isn't in play is Kaz cheetah and zero evil

your defense is cheetah being poisoned n1, and ??

Kazuma

Why you not die tho

I genuinely don't know

12:46 p.m.

I can't pretend to know

12:46 p.m.

Because I just don't

@Kazuma good chance that amnesiac here is poisoner lel

Hmm

Free.

Free's Main

@Kazuma good chance that amnesiac here is poisoner lel

How does that make sense thi

That_Amnesiac

I genuinely don't know

yeah explain that

Kaz's info contradicts Amne being poisoner

"I don't know why" "Why"

Free's Main

@Kazuma good chance that amnesiac here is poisoner lel

Lowkey I believe him

53R0 (Zero)

Kaz's info contradicts Amne being poisoner

?

Really lowkey tho

12:47 p.m.

Like the lowest of keys

I can't be spy to kaz

12:48 p.m.

Kaz knows it has to be a poisoner game

12:48 p.m.

And the invest says sw

bro

12:48 p.m.

didnt I tell that already?

53R0 (Zero)

Kaz's info contradicts Amne being poisoner

Amne poison me to make me think Lucas is poisoner, Tis possible

sw and poisoner in play

12:48 p.m.

so what are you tryna say?

12:48 p.m.

what exactly is ur defense?

Kazuma

Amne poison me to make me think Lucas is poisoner, Tis possible

But then explain the Cheetah 0?

I'm proved by mech evidence

12:48 p.m.

Cheetah zero and chef info means I pretty much can't be evil

53R0 (Zero)

But then explain the Cheetah 0?

I do not know, neither do I care

Worlds where I'm evil have obvious pitfalls

(Essentialally for Amne to be evil, Me and Cheetah would have to be their scum buddies)

There's exactly one world where I'm evil and it doesn't make sense

53R0 (Zero)

(Essentialally for Amne to be evil, Me and Cheetah would have to be their scum buddies)

Tis not impossible

cheetah always gives a zero if they are evil and neighbor an evil

12:51 p.m.

And yet n1 they have a 1

That_Amnesiac

cheetah always gives a zero if they are evil and neighbor an evil

Zero is bad?

Kazuma

Zero is bad?

Zero means no neighbors are evil

I see I see

If ur evil and claiming empath u give a zero

What happens if she’s poisoned

If you neighbor evils

That_Amnesiac

There's exactly one world where I'm evil and it doesn't make sense

hey, ur speaking mechanically and all that but why would kaz as poisoner say that lucas is "poisoner" & poison cheetah the prev day. I mean its obv that there would be 2 claims of being poisoned So like kaz could;ve just said lucas is virgin uk?

Free's Main

hey, ur speaking mechanically and all that but why would kaz as poisoner say that lucas is "poisoner" & poison cheetah the prev day. I mean its obv that there would be 2 claims of being poisoned So like kaz could;ve just said lucas is virgin uk?

the prev night (n1)

Kazuma

What happens if she’s poisoned

It's false Information I'm p sure

12:53 p.m.

I don't remember how they changed pois

Free's Main

hey, ur speaking mechanically and all that but why would kaz as poisoner say that lucas is "poisoner" & poison cheetah the prev day. I mean its obv that there would be 2 claims of being poisoned So like kaz could;ve just said lucas is virgin uk?

and lynch you if both of you are s v t

Free's Main

hey, ur speaking mechanically and all that but why would kaz as poisoner say that lucas is "poisoner" & poison cheetah the prev day. I mean its obv that there would be 2 claims of being poisoned So like kaz could;ve just said lucas is virgin uk?

They think I’m SW I think

again you say that ur mechanically cleared, but we still dont know how lucas "died". So you still arent cleared

Kazuma

They think I’m SW I think

So whaT Evils have a fac chat

12:55 p.m.

unlike last game

That_Amnesiac

It's false Information I'm p sure

What was your claim again

Washer

12:56 p.m.

Lucas and cheetah

Free's Main

again you say that ur mechanically cleared, but we still dont know how lucas "died". So you still arent cleared

If an empath says I'm good and a chef number is zero it stands to say that I'm good especially when the poison is apparently elsewhere

12:57 p.m.

The empath can't be evil but in that scenario I can't be evil

but then what is Lucas, is Lucas actually Virgin

That_Amnesiac

Lucas and cheetah

Hmmm

I'm not rlly sure about what Lucas is

12:57 p.m.

Like I don't fucking know

53R0 (Zero)

but then what is Lucas, is Lucas actually Virgin

what do you think?

12:58 p.m.

poisoner is still alive

12:58 p.m.

and sw is b/w those 3

It could be Lucas was the demon and they sw passed early....? Doubt it tho

so if lucas is demon then lowrests

That_Amnesiac

It could be Lucas was the demon and they sw passed early....? Doubt it tho

that would be stupid

That_Amnesiac

It could be Lucas was the demon and they sw passed early....? Doubt it tho

That would imply a drunk in play

I mean fmpov

12:59 p.m.

Lucas n1 poison, cheetah n2 poison

Free's Main

that would be stupid

Question out of the three invest pings who is actually SW to you?

@Kazuma I wasnt here until now so can you list out the peeps who defended amne and tried to vote you out

It was Stella and Me

1:00 p.m.

That's it

I can't tell if free is evil or not

Yea those two

53R0 (Zero)

It was Stella and Me

I think it was sprig no?

That_Amnesiac

I can't tell if free is evil or not

I believe lucas to be virgin and ur scum

I heard sprig Stella kaz

1:00 p.m.

From someone

Free's Main

I believe lucas to be virgin and ur scum

Yeah that's obvious

Kazuma

Yea those two

Tis why I believe me zero cheetah to be possible

1:01 p.m.

But anyway

1:01 p.m.

The only worlds where I'm evil are spy worlds

That_Amnesiac

Yeah that's obvious

Ik chef and empath's info clears you but lucas still exists

Spoiler alert spy can't be in play

Free's Main

Ik chef and empath's info clears you but lucas still exists

There's such a clear and simple solution

Free's Main

Ik chef and empath's info clears you but lucas still exists

We need to figure out Lucas, because nothing is making sense.

53R0 (Zero)

We need to figure out Lucas, because nothing is making sense.

sure

53R0 (Zero)

We need to figure out Lucas, because nothing is making sense.

This is usually evidence of a poisoner

I just came back

So

That_Amnesiac

The only worlds where I'm evil are spy worlds

Tis why I’m not voting you for now

Who's the invest claim again

demon - You can never appear as evil in any investigation result influenced by the poisoner.

That_Amnesiac

Who's the invest claim again

Free

Free's Main

demon - You can never appear as evil in any investigation result influenced by the poisoner.

Is that only if poisoner targets the person who's checking the demon or generally demon cant be red checked?

Invest can see the demon in their pinge

1:05 p.m.

Pings

Free's Main

Is that only if poisoner targets the person who's checking the demon or generally demon cant be red checked?

It's like this, as long as the player investigated is poisoned minions and demons will show up as good

If the demon can't be red checked that would be really

1:05 p.m.

Shitty

53R0 (Zero)

It's like this, as long as the player investigated is poisoned minions and demons will show up as good

It doesnt say anything bout the minions tho although yea, investigative person always get a wrong check on minions and demon if the poisoner targets em (So I dont understand why this was given only under demon's role)

1:09 p.m.

btw stella hasnt claimed yet, right?

1:09 p.m.

how bout this

1:10 p.m.

(I doubt stella would have any major role at this point)

1:11 p.m.

eh nvm

All the unclaimed roles do not wanna claim

Im not asking them to

1:11 p.m.

just thought of smth

1:11 p.m.

but discared it right away

Gotcha

also can cheetah be drunk, lucas be virgin and we still have one unclaimed outsider?

1:20 p.m.

mm

1:21 p.m.

Drunk Before the game starts, you are given a random Town role that is not in the game. You are actually the Drunk, though. This role cannot be one of the bluffs the evils receive. When receiving investigative reports you have a 1 in 3 chance to receive a truthful report and a 2 in 3 chance to receive a result as if you were poisoned that night. Any other ability will always work as if you were poisoned. You can show up as the Town player for the Washerwoman. You can show up as the Outsider player for the Librarian. You cannot be the Red Herring of the Fortune Teller, even though you think you are a Town role. If you are poisoned, then investigative results lose their 1 in 3 chance to be truthful and will instead always report in their poisoned state.

1:22 p.m.

well nvm

1:22 p.m.

baron, poisoner and sw cant be in play together

the final outsider is quite literally throwing if they aren’t claiming

1:34 p.m.

i don’t believe there’s a baron if

1:35 p.m.

ig *

1:35 p.m.

i haven’t played botc in ages but when i used to play there was no stigma about claiming saint

1:36 p.m.

which is what i see some reservations about a third outsider existing are

stella.

i haven’t played botc in ages but when i used to play there was no stigma about claiming saint

can you explain the lucas thingy then?

yes

1:37 p.m.

i think lucas is virgin and was poisoned n1, cheetah is poisoned n2 and kaz is sw in this scenario

1:37 p.m.

invest info was sw in austria kaz or me

1:37 p.m.

empath got 1/ on kaz/amne

1:38 p.m.

things line up what are we confused about?

1:38 p.m.

it’s also 4:30 in the morning and i’ve been up since 12:30 sorry if i come off grumpy lmao

1:39 p.m.

i’m just ✨ sleep deprived ✨

That_Amnesiac

I heard sprig Stella kaz

this is invest info for sw?

yws

1:41 p.m.

yes

i haven’t fully backread

1:41 p.m.

i quit on sleep tho so

Free's Main

yws

why do we think amne is poisoner?

stella.

i think lucas is virgin and was poisoned n1, cheetah is poisoned n2 and kaz is sw in this scenario

Is this what exactly happened?

that’s what i think happened

kaz had no reason to claim poisoned again

1:45 p.m.

wdym

1:45 p.m.

by again

cheetah was poisoned so

1:45 p.m.

If kaz didnt claim to be poisoned then amne is conf scum

Free's Main

If kaz didnt claim to be poisoned then amne is conf scum

due to empath's n0 info and lucas dying

okay that kinda does make sense true

1:47 p.m.

mm no

1:48 p.m.

how does it explain kaz/cheetah tho?

1:48 p.m.

ur theory is amne scum with cheetah?

stella.

how does it explain kaz/cheetah tho?

exactly kaz had no reason to say that they are poisoned as scum

stella.

ur theory is amne scum with cheetah?

no the game mechs has been bugging me

1:48 p.m.

I've played a diff ver of botc

1:48 p.m.

so dk about this

i’ve only ever played a wildly different version

1:49 p.m.

it was bot run with the original rules

Free's Main

exactly kaz had no reason to say that they are poisoned as scum

they could've just said lucas is virgin and ez

1:49 p.m.

amne is voted out

so every game was rnged

1:49 p.m.

one of the more interesting experiences but anyways

hmm

it’s a lot of this could’ve that could’ve

1:52 p.m.

i don’t know but i have yet to be convinced by amne poisoner tbh

‍♂️ we just lynch em and if poisoner is still in play then HMMM

1:53 p.m.

I feel like amne is being cleared cuz we are overlooking smth

1:53 p.m.

although chef's info says that they arent paired with cheetah

chef could’ve been poisoned

stella.

it’s a lot of this could’ve that could’ve

mm

stella.

chef could’ve been poisoned

then amne is scum lol

1:55 p.m.

since there's no reason for lucas to fake virgin

okay so we have come up with a new theory?

1:56 p.m.

chef poisoned n1 cheetah lied ?? for what reason why sus their teammate amne?

stella.

chef could’ve been poisoned

Or I could be drunk

1:56 p.m.

Oh wait not possible

no baron

1:56 p.m.

e

Yeah no Baron

1:57 p.m.

So yeah, unless Cheetah lied I wasn't poisoned

wait lmao i just assumed

1:57 p.m.

why would poisoned chef give amne scum

1:57 p.m.

cos amne didn’t die

1:57 p.m.

right right

1:57 p.m.

grr

1:57 p.m.

but then again

1:57 p.m.

back to kaz and cheetah today

1:57 p.m.

what happened

1:58 p.m.

cheetah could’ve been poisoned n1? doesn’t explain she

1:58 p.m.

it*

All of this could be figured out if we knew what the fuck happened yesterday

1:59 p.m.

the game can be figured out if everyone claims their real role and action trolley

2:00 p.m.

i’m happy to claim tomorrow maybe

If we think lucas was poisoned n0, then cheetah's claim is true and theres one or 2 scum in amne/kaz, If amne is poisoner then evils would eventually kill kaz (im not disagreeing with ur theory stella but it just seems too convenient for amne to be cleared)

There is definitely a scum in Kaz / Amne they both can't be evil tho

53R0 (Zero)

There is definitely a scum in Kaz / Amne they both can't be evil tho

Oh why

2:03 p.m.

they both can be evil acc to mechanics

Free's Main

then amne is scum lol

"Chef mightve been poisoned so I'm gonna make it sound like amne is conf scum" - free

IM IN A TOURNAMENT

2:09 p.m.

AND MY FIRST ROUND IS THE ONE ON THE TWITCH STREAM

2:09 p.m.

IM GONNA GET FUCKING FRIED

WHY ARE U TEXTING WHEN UR IN A GLADIATOR TOURNAMENT

2:10 p.m.

STAB THE OPPONENT MFKER

https://www.twitch.tv/desselie

Desselie - Twitch

New Player Challenge #40 - The End of Desselion | !bracket

2:11 p.m.

root for me

Free's Main

they both can be evil acc to mechanics

How exactly?

53R0 (Zero)

How exactly?

?

2:15 p.m.

wdym by how

2:15 p.m.

empath doesnt know if both are evil or only one of em is evil

guys i did it

That_Amnesiac

"Chef mightve been poisoned so I'm gonna make it sound like amne is conf scum" - free

ngl ur more scummy than kaz

2:18 p.m.

‍♂️

2:19 p.m.

although the only thing weird bout kaz was to say that lucas is poisoner

Free's Main

empath doesnt know if both are evil or only one of em is evil

Empath learns how many of their neighbors are evil

53R0 (Zero)

Empath learns how many of their neighbors are evil

@I want full marks (Cheetah)

Free's Main

empath doesnt know if both are evil or only one of em is evil

If this was true empath just gets no info..?

53R0 (Zero)

Empath learns how many of their neighbors are evil

not here

If they nerfed fucking empath for being too strong I will riot

2:21 p.m.

I WILL RIOY

empath learns either “none” or “one or more”

I'm done

2:21 p.m.

I'm so done

2:21 p.m.

I'm done

cos i thought that too but cheetah said nah

I'm done

2:21 p.m.

Get me a replacement this is a treachery against tb

2:21 p.m.

this is a crime

2:21 p.m.

THIS IS A CRIME.

it’s “not botc” trolley

2:22 p.m.

but i agree true botc is probably better

2:22 p.m.

sorry lune

I've never played botc outside of this server so

‍♂️

2:22 p.m.

idek

2:23 p.m.

usually how many hrs does botc last?

tbh i haven’t played botc since like four years ago

Free's Main

usually how many hrs does botc last?

I mean day 1

Free's Main

usually how many hrs does botc last?

1-2 hrs

full game

lol

one day is about like five mins if you’re good

2:23 p.m.

or something like that

short game

stella.

one day is about like five mins if you’re good

in like 5 players

stella.

in like 5 players

but i played a really streamlined version where the bot was our storyteller

2:24 p.m.

i don’t remember it much anymore so lines adjustments aren’t killing me inside

2:25 p.m.

did amne actually leave because of the blasphemy or smth lmao

‍♂️

2:31 p.m.

I think amne shud still be lynched tday Enables cheetah to check you and kaz, and if amne isnt poisoner then either they have to kill kaz, poison cheetah or the other way around(if amne is poisoner then W)

2:31 p.m.

also monk be on cheetah please COPIUM

what are you saying? if amne is lynched and not poisoner kaz is scum right? cheetah will maintain a 1+ or get poisoned again for the chance of a 0 to propagate we got the right lynch today

2:48 p.m.

i don’t see how that helps

stella.

what are you saying? if amne is lynched and not poisoner kaz is scum right? cheetah will maintain a 1+ or get poisoned again for the chance of a 0 to propagate we got the right lynch today

If amne is not poisoner then he can just be the demon too, no?

2:51 p.m.

also like

2:51 p.m.

As I said b4

2:52 p.m.

It would be pretty dumb for evils to claim undertaker right at the start

2:52 p.m.

washer is a safe claim

2:52 p.m.

that's why fish suggested amne to hammer lucas

Free's Main

It would be pretty dumb for evils to claim undertaker right at the start

idk personally i think itd be pretty dumb for town to do it too but what do I know (edited)

2:52 p.m.

also i won 2 matches then lost my third in the tournament

2:53 p.m.

but theres losers bracket

Mr. Fish

idk personally i think itd be pretty dumb for town to do it too but what do I know (edited)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291085219721510913 Also the way kaz claimed was genuine

2:53 p.m.

but who knows

2:53 p.m.

‍♂️

meh

2:54 p.m.

i dont think thats alignment indicative

yeah alright but amne isnt scum only if "lucas was poisoned n0"

2:55 p.m.

thats all there is to it

who the fuck is bigscaryblackman69

Mr. Fish

who the fuck is bigscaryblackman69

kaz

i c

2:55 p.m.

isnt that.. our undertaker claim?

Free's Main

yeah alright but amne isnt scum only if "lucas was poisoned n0"

Cuz im sure that lucas aint evil here

Mr. Fish

isnt that.. our undertaker claim?

yes

hm

2:55 p.m.

i need to keep up on the game more

2:56 p.m.

im confused how we got to this lynch

2:56 p.m.

ive just been busy

I came back like 3 hrs ago

2:56 p.m.

and people were lynching em

2:56 p.m.

the thing is, if kaz IS town, no matter what as long as they live they will get sober/healthy info

2:57 p.m.

because poisoning him again will be worthless

well okay so we understand how we got to today right? virgin lucas was hammered by amne empath got a 1 invest found sw in kaz austria me chef got a 0 balboa

or poisoner is dead

stella.

well okay so we understand how we got to today right? virgin lucas was hammered by amne empath got a 1 invest found sw in kaz austria me chef got a 0 balboa

blah blah*

UNLESS he is just drunk lol

stella.

well okay so we understand how we got to today right? virgin lucas was hammered by amne empath got a 1 invest found sw in kaz austria me chef got a 0 balboa

technically empath got a yes but ye

yeah but let’s be real if we have another outsider who isn’t claiming they’re straight up throwing

for sure

our two competing theories atm is that either

but also i wasnt saying hiding outsider i was saying lucas evil

but why? for what reason

2:58 p.m.

it’s illogical that lucas is scum

idk i feel like he is just telling the truth about being scum and gonna be like "i even claimed evil lmaoooo"

Mr. Fish

idk i feel like he is just telling the truth about being scum and gonna be like "i even claimed evil lmaoooo"

where

2:59 p.m.

if you backread a bit zero and i have one theory ray has another they’re both explained well from all of us imo

stella.

where

i was about to look for it but i got pinged for my tournament

3:00 p.m.

just search from him

3:00 p.m.

also this is losers bracket if i lose ill be present

well gl on the tournament

3:01 p.m.

hope u win yay

3:02 p.m.

i should try sleeping again

3:02 p.m.

but it’s 6am atp lol

stella.

hope u win yay

WAHHHHHHHHHH

3:08 p.m.

all 3 games went to 1/1

3:09 p.m.

i lost thoiugh

stella.

where

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291955008010584118

3:10 p.m.

but also he looked very annoying in that conversation and i usually think annoying people are scum

aww

stella.

aww

Mr. Fish

but also he looked very annoying in that conversation and i usually think annoying people are scum

wdym annoying?

3:12 p.m.

he looked like a frustrated town fmpov when i read that thru

stella.

wdym annoying?

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291954596155101215 anyone saying skill issue in a situation like this should be smited

3:12 p.m.

and being like "you right bro" "you so right im evil"

tbh i thought amne looked worse off in that convo

3:13 p.m.

okay well lucas is dead anyways

true

3:13 p.m.

(to the dead thing)

what’s ur take on the current kaz v amne?

stella.

tbh i thought amne looked worse off in that convo

we got OPPOSITE reads of that chat

3:13 p.m.

i trust kaz>amne though

3:13 p.m.

i havent paid too much attention to the lynch but thats what ive been thinking generally

all the evidence is pointing bc towards kaz over amne

so the evil team would be kaz and who?

my current hypothesis is kaz ray and someone else that idk yet

Mr. Fish

i trust kaz>amne though

okay can you explain the cheetah and kaz result of amne is scum tho?

3:16 p.m.

bc thats the differentiating factor atm

(im playing dnd but what do you mean)

stella.

lucas was poisoned n1, empath got kaz/amne, empath poisoned n2 kaz could be solo

here

Free's Main

I think amne shud still be lynched tday Enables cheetah to check you and kaz, and if amne isnt poisoner then either they have to kill kaz, poison cheetah or the other way around(if amne is poisoner then W)

rays reasoning

poisoning empath makes 0 sense

3:18 p.m.

i dont know what to make of that

okay then are you thinking it’s zero, amne and cheetah? chef ww empath?

3:20 p.m.

cos why else is empath getting diff results tho?

i have no clue my friend

ill do more talking after dnd

outted himself as scum

aw shit

4:39 p.m.

i didnt realize prods happened

Avenge meeee

wait lucas

4:59 p.m.

what has happened

4:59 p.m.

td;lr perhaps

hes saying that because either A - he's too dumb to comprehend the role called "Poisoner" or B - He's evil

coal

what has happened

Basically

5:04 p.m.

Someone guaranteed that I won’t die

5:04 p.m.

And I died

5:05 p.m.

They lynched me and said I won’t die

5:05 p.m.

And I died

5:05 p.m.

And apparently my role found @That_Amnesiac as evil

That_Amnesiac

hes saying that because either A - he's too dumb to comprehend the role called "Poisoner" or B - He's evil

Lucas Lin 703

And I died

A - Read the role you fakeclaim before you claim it

5:06 p.m.

B - ive made my defense 20 times and u went

5:06 p.m.

"uhhhh too long to read idc!"

5:06 p.m.

so

5:06 p.m.

its not my problem if you dont participate in the game

That_Amnesiac

B - ive made my defense 20 times and u went

wait sorry

Avenge me

whats your defense

5:07 p.m.

ive had exams like all of yesterday

the only world where im evil is when im spy unless you think the evil is specifically me cheetah and zero

5:07 p.m.

ill make it in a sec

all g dw

You’re just bullshitting trying to not get killed

That_Amnesiac

A - Read the role you fakeclaim before you claim it

i say something

5:08 p.m.

u

didnt kaz claim poisoner

AVENGE MEEEEE!!!!!!!! !n: !{{ ! !!!!!!!

5:08 p.m.

I SAY SOMETHING

5:08 p.m.

U:

5:08 p.m.

AVENGE MEEEEEEEE

5:08 p.m.

like you have eyes for a reason.

coal

didnt kaz claim poisoner

ok im just gonna give you a brief

5:08 p.m.

ok

5:08 p.m.

so

5:08 p.m.

kaz is undertaker claim

5:08 p.m.

if undertaker is poisoned they see a poisoner

5:08 p.m.

right

ok

so kaz was "poisoned" on the night cheetah learned a zero

5:09 p.m.

which, in kaz's worlds, means i have to be good

5:09 p.m.

and it cant be me and cheetah

I don’t want to hear it

because of chef info

I just want death (edited)

cry about it

Death to the non believer

literally

5:09 p.m.

just dont talk

u dont need to meet prod requirements

5:10 p.m.

so just shut the fuck up

5:10 p.m.

you contribute nothing

5:10 p.m.

so just

5:10 p.m.

dont

That_Amnesiac

you contribute nothing

I found a evil

5:10 p.m.

Agahahahahaa

5:10 p.m.

Lucas Lin 703

I just want death (edited)

edit if anyone needs

I MAKE A DEFENSE

dont edit again

AND U JUST FUCKING IGNORE IT

My bad

5:10 p.m.

All I heard was your excuses

oh lemme just spam this video!!!! like that helps

5:12 p.m.

im pretty much mechanically proven in kaz's worlds

5:12 p.m.

and u believe everything kaz says

5:14 p.m.

all lucas has done today is said "no, i dont like that ur world has no flaws" and just ignored it

5:14 p.m.

thats enough proof right theree

That_Amnesiac

oh lemme just spam this video!!!! like that helps

i already said he has been annoying as hell

my defense is - on n2, if kaz is poisoned, (Which they are claiming); the empath would have gotten true information. they got a 0. a 0 means none of their neighbors are evil. according to the chef, no evils neighbor each other, so it cannot be me and cheetah. the worlds where im evil are zero, cheetah and me, or spy worlds (which arent possible due to kaz's info and the investigator.)

5:18 p.m.

i don't know why the virgin failed, but there are only 2 options: A - They are evil (which is looking VERRRRYYYYY LIKELY) or B - They were poisoned n1.

5:19 p.m.

thats probably the smallest my defense can get while conveying the point.

5:19 p.m.

there are tells of a poisoner even without kaz's information aswell

uh

5:25 p.m.

also

ya?

i can confirm monk is around

5:26 p.m.

also

5:27 p.m.

so if saint gets voted out

5:27 p.m.

but is poisoned

5:27 p.m.

town wont lose?

That_Amnesiac

all lucas has done today is said "no, i dont like that ur world has no flaws" and just ignored it

mf then explain it without sending a 6 page essay

5:34 p.m.

i aint reading all of that

orrrrr

5:35 p.m.

you can stop spamming the video

5:35 p.m.

:D

5:35 p.m.

and j read a little bit more

5:35 p.m.

o.o

coal

and j read a little bit more

too long

5:40 p.m.

i dont read

5:40 p.m.

make it like 2-3 sentence

coal

town wont lose?

Correct

6:01 p.m.

As Saint technically wouldn't have an ability

coal

i can confirm monk is around

so.. youre just claiming monk

6:46 p.m.

yeah

8:03 p.m.

kill me now

8:03 p.m.

please

so coal is the monk?... apperantly... i doubt it... but if coal was the monk. You threw monk. I claimed fortune teller by providing info i shouldve been first target of defense now im dead and all i can do is talk. I cant vote or use my abilities

empath is arguably a better or equal value target to protect

allan gamesyt

so coal is the monk?... apperantly... i doubt it... but if coal was the monk. You threw monk. I claimed fortune teller by providing info i shouldve been first target of defense now im dead and all i can do is talk. I cant vote or use my abilities

i would argue there may be a better hit but im not gonna say it because i want to see what coal may say

That_Amnesiac

empath is arguably a better or equal value target to protect

False. The whole goal of the town is to locate and lynch the demon

8:14 p.m.

The fortune teller is the ONLY role that has the ability to check everyone to see if they can find the demon and has infinite uses of that ability. The only other role that can track the demon is the slayer but the slayer has limited uses on their ability

8:15 p.m.

I was by far the absolute BEST role to be protecting

Mr. Fish

i would argue there may be a better hit but im not gonna say it because i want to see what coal may say

yeah i protected fish last night

8:17 p.m.

nothing much to say

8:17 p.m.

i dont really understand the game mechs to have an input whatsoever

‍♂️

thanks appreciate it

coal.

8:18 p.m.

Let me ask you this.

allan.

8:18 p.m.

ask away

Did you see me send the text of "free and sprigatito are not the demon" on d1?

do i remember stuff from maybe three plus days ago? not really

Ok second question

8:19 p.m.

Did you read the roles at all?

i read it

8:20 p.m.

and i dont understand how they relate whatsoever

Ok. So we can confirm you saw what fortune teller does right?

and people too fast, so i j hope to grab whatever i can

allan gamesyt

Ok. So we can confirm you saw what fortune teller does right?

well let me go read that role agaun

girlypop

8:22 p.m.

why are we claiming monk when there’s almost certainly a poisoner ig

ok yes @allan gamesyt

Ok. The monks mission is to protect people right?

yes

The fortune teller is supposed to find the demon right?

ah

8:23 p.m.

i see

Do you see the correlation

i apologize

Not only that the towns whole mission is to lynch the demon

mk

8:23 p.m.

yeah im sorry

Its fine

i really have no idea what im doing this game

Next time read every role and see how they correlate to your role to see exactly how well a combo play can be used to find the evils in a game

8:25 p.m.

Like for instance if im investigating you could defend me as monk. Theres always a big brain play and 9 times outta 10 the protective roles normally find and protect the investigation roles so the investigation roles can do their job to find the evils and get them outta the game

ah ok

Now new question

8:27 p.m.

Are you a new player?

coal

yeah i protected fish last night

this is NOT the arguably better hit i was thinking of lmao

Maybe they just trusted you were town?

X for doubt

8:28 p.m.

only people i can trust as town right now is free and sprigatito

8:28 p.m.

Heck they are confirmed good

8:29 p.m.

in my eyes that is

53R0 (Zero)

Maybe they just trusted you were town?

i mean either way, i still havent claimed. i dont necessarily think this makes them evil, i just think its a bad hit.

8:29 p.m.

there were plenty of claimed players to go on

allan gamesyt

Are you a new player?

yes.

coal

yes.

1st match?

no

8:30 p.m.

but first botc game

which would explain a bit

yeah

this is honestly.... oh god i lost count of how many games ive played XD

sorry again

allan gamesyt

Like for instance if im investigating you could defend me as monk. Theres always a big brain play and 9 times outta 10 the protective roles normally find and protect the investigation roles so the investigation roles can do their job to find the evils and get them outta the game

but poisoner ig allan - once you’ve claimed ft there’s no guarantee ur future checks will be correct

Its fine coal. Just keep in mind to find the plan that correlates best with your role

allan gamesyt

only people i can trust as town right now is free and sprigatito

minions exist

i might j sub out this one

coal

i might j sub out this one

no coal :((

8:32 p.m.

me fishy and austria are here :((

stella i have no idea whats going on and someone who better knows the game would probably be best :((

eh... fair point stella. All i know is free and sprigatito are not the demon so... they are pretty safe

coal

stella i have no idea whats going on and someone who better knows the game would probably be best :((

yeah but you can only get better by playing more

Also stella i had a entire plan set in motion to find the demon. I was gonna find as many non demons as possible and if i saw 1 of my results had a demon do some cross correlations with the only 2 CONFIRMED nondemons there were

mm yes the entire idea of ft is to look for zeros ur right

8:35 p.m.

but anyways it’s gone now so what is ur take on the current vote allan?

8:35 p.m.

i haven’t played with u in ages :((

Well considering that from my knowledge lucas is the virgin and amne was not lynched when amne hammered lucas. I doubt lucas was poisoned when he was lycnhed which means amne has to be evil. But no one is listening to facts and letting amne push them to a different vote

why do you think lucas wasn’t poisoned?

i doubt poisoner would be like "oh this guy looks great enough to poison of the start" only reason poisoner would do that is if the poisoner hated lucas' guts. I feel like they wouldve poisoned someone with more experience. Like zero or kaz. But not someone probably as new as lucas... depending on how many games lucas played...

allan gamesyt

Also stella i had a entire plan set in motion to find the demon. I was gonna find as many non demons as possible and if i saw 1 of my results had a demon do some cross correlations with the only 2 CONFIRMED nondemons there were

well yes thats just how you do FT

8:40 p.m.

did you know FT can check itself?

that’s fair but also it’s not conclusive imo that lucas couldn’t be poisoned

8:41 p.m.

it seems like that sort of reasoning is some sort of angle shooting fmpov?

Mr. Fish

did you know FT can check itself?

i didn’t know that

yeah it can also be its own red herring

8:41 p.m.

if youre an ST (doesnt exist here dw about it) and you know a player does it a lot you can epicly prank them

allan gamesyt

i doubt poisoner would be like "oh this guy looks great enough to poison of the start" only reason poisoner would do that is if the poisoner hated lucas' guts. I feel like they wouldve poisoned someone with more experience. Like zero or kaz. But not someone probably as new as lucas... depending on how many games lucas played...

okay but sure let’s say someone else was poisoned, amne scum empath was right n1, u have kaz and empath claiming poisoned n2

Mr. Fish

yeah it can also be its own red herring

i forgot fts in regular games got red herrings

8:42 p.m.

lmao

stella.

i forgot fts in regular games got red herrings

it would be wayyy too strong otherwise

that’s true

i had a perfect FT game where i basically just won with my info

8:42 p.m.

it was so funny

8:42 p.m.

i checked 2 people N1, got a yes

8:43 p.m.

checked 2 SEPARATE PEOPLE got a yes

Oof

checked myself and one of the first people, got a yes

8:43 p.m.

and did the same thing again

8:43 p.m.

literally all 4 were yes

Bruh how tf?!

it was so funny

8:43 p.m.

mostly luck

8:43 p.m.

some reads

8:43 p.m.

mr. Fish is hacking people

like N1 was 100% luck because like.. you know, i know nothing

its congirmed mr. Fish is a hacker XD

Heh guys I'm "imp" what does that do

lol

and the red herring (2nd one) was luck because both were good so its kinda like i cant really read a red herring

Can i have an update on mech

8:44 p.m.

Who's claimed what

uhh

I claimed FT im dead.

theres a list somewhere

8:44 p.m.

i havent claimed and im alive

stella.

the playerlist is looking a bit like alive: austria- soldier ~~allan- ft ray/austria not imp~~ zero- chef 0 kaz- undertaker [n1. lucas poison] ray- invest (probably time to reveal info tbh) ~~lucas- virgin~~ amne- washer idk their pings stella- coal- fish- cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0]

yes

i dont plan to claim

lucas claimed virgin lucas is dead

Who nomd lucas

stella.

the playerlist is looking a bit like alive: austria- soldier ~~allan- ft ray/austria not imp~~ zero- chef 0 kaz- undertaker [n1. lucas poison] ray- invest (probably time to reveal info tbh) ~~lucas- virgin~~ amne- washer idk their pings stella- coal- fish- cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0]

Thanks

no noms

8:44 p.m.

but amne hammered

FT dead I've claimed Monk UT Claimed @stella. @coal @Mr. Fish No reason not to add your claims to the pot, all of the relevant roles are outed

stella.

but amne hammered

Mmk

definitely not true

coal is u

8:45 p.m.

she claimed monk

stella.

she claimed monk

Ty

Mr. Fish

definitely not true

Defo true

8:45 p.m.

"Ravenkeeper is super relevant

"

8:45 p.m.

We gain more information from just mass claimnig atp

Which is also the whole reason i think that amne should be lynched as a safer then sorry option

The FT is dead, Empath / UT are revealed

8:45 p.m.

Monk is revealed

8:45 p.m.

Soldier claimed

8:46 p.m.

What roles exist that we want to conceal

there are definitely still relevant roles in that none of the remaining roles provide continuous info so i dont have much of a reason to claim, i would rather not inform the demon any more

allan gamesyt

Which is also the whole reason i think that amne should be lynched as a safer then sorry option

Did lucas claim before or after

slayer?

8:46 p.m.

RK?

Danger!? Luka!

What roles exist that we want to conceal

raven fs imo

Mr. Fish

there are definitely still relevant roles in that none of the remaining roles provide continuous info so i dont have much of a reason to claim, i would rather not inform the demon any more

What does this even mean

Danger!? Luka!

Did lucas claim before or after

I think both

stella.

raven fs imo

No

8:46 p.m.

Demon is never attacking a nonclaimer

8:46 p.m.

Concealing RK does nothing but pretend like it doesnt exis

8:46 p.m.

And give the role a pass to not claim

Danger!? Luka!

What does this even mean

all of the each night learn something roles are claimed, meaning i dont have info. i dont have anything to share.

Mr. Fish

RK?

All claimed roles exist, not relevant

Mr. Fish

slayer?

Utility from the role is more important

sure i’m claiming ravens

Mr. Fish

all of the each night learn something roles are claimed, meaning i dont have info. i dont have anything to share.

And you'll never have anything to share, so just claim

stella.

sure i’m claiming ravens

Thanks

big if true stella

lmao are you abt to cc me?

luka the only 2 confirmed nondemons are free and sprigatito

nah

8:47 p.m.

its just

allan gamesyt

luka the only 2 confirmed nondemons are free and sprigatito

Also the dead people but ok

public RK claims are for sure strange

Yea

Mr. Fish

public RK claims are for sure strange

Why conceal it??

8:47 p.m.

She's never being attacked

8:47 p.m.

You should claim too

slayer may be attacked

Stop pretending like concealing your role does anything no matter what you are

what if im a slayer?

Mr. Fish

slayer may be attacked

Slayer is also instant shot, and chances are you aren't I'm willing to take a gamble

slayer is a very valid demon kill

then u have to use ur shot today

So is every other alive role

stella.

then u have to use ur shot today

Not a bad thing

if your slayer fish you have 1 SHOT. dont waste it

UT / Empath / Myself all take priority over slayer being shot

8:48 p.m.

You're objectively incorrect if you really think that Slayer is being killed if they claim

8:48 p.m.

Or the information gained from concealing slayer is worth it

im not claiming slayer but i am saying slayer gets stronger the further it gets and if i am a slayer then going longer is great. and it IS a good hit, that is definitely not objective

8:49 p.m.

subjective yes, not objectively

Fish has a point luka

i disagree slayer is best for closer to endgame

Mr. Fish

im not claiming slayer but i am saying slayer gets stronger the further it gets and if i am a slayer then going longer is great. and it IS a good hit, that is definitely not objective

But it isn't dying tonight, or tommorow night and tha'ts all that matters Slayer is the only role that wants to conceal itself, and frankly it's more worth it to just claim for world solving

stella.

i disagree slayer is best for closer to endgame

It is best closer to endgame

8:49 p.m.

But the problem is, the role like

8:49 p.m.

Just wants to claium?

no???

allan gamesyt

Fish has a point luka

Sure, I also have a point if I say the moon ism ade of cheese since theirs holes in it

slayers almost always get hit first lmao

Mr. Fish

slayers almost always get hit first lmao

Bro theirs a claimed monk and UT

claiming slayer is just death

what are you on

8:50 p.m.

"Slayer gets hit over monk"

In this game our whole objective is the demon. Not the minions. If im correct minions can just be alive and the town wins

allan gamesyt

In this game our whole objective is the demon. Not the minions. If im correct minions can just be alive and the town wins

Yup

Danger!? Luka!

"Slayer gets hit over monk"

poisoner is ig tho

8:50 p.m.

we have two poisoned claims from tn

Danger!? Luka!

"Slayer gets hit over monk"

literally last time i was in a game there was a spy and demon hit slayer N1 over monk

8:50 p.m.

idk what youre on about

stella.

we have two poisoned claims from tn

Who are these poisoned claims

it definitely is a possibility

kaz and cheetah

8:50 p.m.

lucas (virgin claim) died when amne (ww claim) hammered them

Mr. Fish

literally last time i was in a game there was a spy and demon hit slayer N1 over monk

What are you talking about, it's D2, not N1 In addition to that, this isn't relevant. You're bringing up N1, before they claimed I'm saying they hit me first since I can protect people

stella.

kaz and cheetah

What are the poisoned calims here

kaz (ut) said lucas seen poisoner

Danger!? Luka!

What are you talking about, it's D2, not N1 In addition to that, this isn't relevant. You're bringing up N1, before they claimed I'm saying they hit me first since I can protect people

i meant N2, you dont have to point out something i obviously just misspoke on lol

8:51 p.m.

youre just clinging onto a misspeak

cheetah (empath) got one or more in kaz/amne n1

Mr. Fish

i meant N2, you dont have to point out something i obviously just misspoke on lol

You didn't "obviously" mispeak on, how could I have gotten that from anything you said

got 0 on n2 same neighbours

In addition to that, doesn't matter. Did the slayer claim at that point?

8:51 p.m.

Better yet, was the monk as good of a player as I am in terms of predicting NKs?

no, but they KNEW them???

8:51 p.m.

why does them claiming matter?

stella.

cheetah (empath) got one or more in kaz/amne n1

"one or more" did lune make the role trash

lmao

yes

Mr. Fish

why does them claiming matter?

That way we get more information out into public??

8:52 p.m.

What's wrong with that lmfao

i dont mean that

More informed plays is always good

why are you clinging onto literally every incorrect statement

Why are you saying them

Danger!? Luka!

In addition to that, doesn't matter. Did the slayer claim at that point?

no they did not, why does them having claimed matter?

I'm just aruging with what you're saying

Mr. Fish

no they did not, why does them having claimed matter?

Because I the monk can protect the slayer

8:52 p.m.

The monk in that case could not

8:52 p.m.

What is hard to understand about this

8:52 p.m.

You are being intentionally stubborn since you refuse to admit your point is wrong

Yea im just gonna let luka take the full feild. Luka is sadly 2,000,000 times better then me XD

i just disagree with you in it being an objectively better move, i agree claiming here is a fine and possible move but i also would rather not and want to see if i get double claimed too

well everyone has claimed now lol

8:53 p.m.

claim up

Your team receives an amount of bluffs equal to the amount of minions in the game, these bluffs are random Town and Outsider roles not in the game.

8:53 p.m.

Garbage change btw

am i seriously the only one

8:53 p.m.

yeah

Also luka since when was your pfp a alolan vulpix?

Danger!? Luka!

Your team receives an amount of bluffs equal to the amount of minions in the game, these bluffs are random Town and Outsider roles not in the game.

i was about to point out they only have 2 bluffs and 3 evils so

8:53 p.m.

i was waiting to see if id be double claimed

8:54 p.m.

am i actually the last one?

yes

2nd last

8:54 p.m.

tmk

8:54 p.m.

from stellas list

who’s last?

8:54 p.m.

coal is u

8:54 p.m.

i said so

stella.

the playerlist is looking a bit like alive: austria- soldier ~~allan- ft ray/austria not imp~~ zero- chef 0 kaz- undertaker [n1. lucas poison] ray- invest (probably time to reveal info tbh) ~~lucas- virgin~~ amne- washer idk their pings stella- coal- fish- cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0]

Oh I subbed into coal

8:54 p.m.

Nmv you're last yeahg

oh if im last ill go, i thought we had more people

8:54 p.m.

yeah i am actually slayer

8:54 p.m.

lol

Theres lucas

Mr. Fish

yeah i am actually slayer

I mean, kinda figured LMFAO

Lucas. Luka has some questions for you.

@allan gamesyt Did you claim or give evils any reasons to kill you

8:54 p.m.

Also, no whispers right

Danger!? Luka!

I mean, kinda figured LMFAO

i couldve been a mayor! and if i WAS itd bounce and be silly

Danger!? Luka!

Also, no whispers right

no whispers

granted, mayor bounces kinda suck in this too

Mr. Fish

i couldve been a mayor! and if i WAS itd bounce and be silly

Okay that would be silly, but knowing lune they'd attack the empath Clueless

yeah no whispers

Danger!? Luka!

@allan gamesyt Did you claim or give evils any reasons to kill you

Does providing info before my death count?

allan claimed ft austria ray not imp

allan gamesyt

Does providing info before my death count?

What info did you provide

stella.

allan claimed ft austria ray not imp

Before they died?

d1

8:55 p.m.

allan died n2

Danger!? Luka!

What info did you provide

Free and sprigatito are not the demon

Did ray give invest info

i was waiting to be the last claim but i probably should have kept track of who claimed

Did amne give ww info

kaz austria me sw

stella.

allan died n2

N1 technically. The game started on n0 then d1 then N1

Cheetah is probably town

allan gamesyt

N1 technically. The game started on n0 then d1 then N1

did this get changed too

8:56 p.m.

its so over

Can't see them giving incongruint info as evil here

Mr. Fish

its so over

im just ignoring the change

by the way my shot isnt instant

8:57 p.m.

in this

im just saying it how its supposed to be

its end of day and i do it privately

what are you claiming? slayer?

8:57 p.m.

ic

yeah

Mr. Fish

its end of day and i do it privately

thats so

8:57 p.m.

unironically

@That_Amnesiac What are your pings

Mr. Fish

did this get changed too

No. Not from my knowledge. I mean normally night one is always after d1. But you can count it as whatever

Danger!? Luka!

@That_Amnesiac What are your pings

i told people like 39u4342394239845234 times

That_Amnesiac

i told people like 39u4342394239845234 times

I just subd in

8:57 p.m.

Give me space

allan gamesyt

No. Not from my knowledge. I mean normally night one is always after d1. But you can count it as whatever

in botc it goes n1 d1 n2 d2 n3 d3

yeah

in REAL BOTC

in botc its like amne said

NOT THIS FUCKING DISCOUNT GOODWILL BOTC

8:58 p.m.

WHERE VIRGIN IS AN OUTSIDER

Danger!? Luka!

Give me space

>subs in >gives people no space >give me space

Drunk ig

Mr. Fish

>subs in >gives people no space >give me space

:3

lol

AND WASHERWOMAN IS BAD

8:58 p.m.

anyway

yeah a lot of roles are just

it was lucas and cheetah

worse imo

Worse part is is that

8:58 p.m.

Evils were buffed

8:58 p.m.

Not nerfed

8:58 p.m.

Univesal bluffs + Poisoner reversing info

spy is fully unsolvable now

That too

yeah but poisoner is worse id say

Also no whispers

8:59 p.m.

HUGE nerf to town

yeah

8:59 p.m.

for sure

and we cant talk in night

why is poisoner better?

which

XD you can tell amne is getting absolutely mad

Mr. Fish

why is poisoner better?

ST cant take sympathy on the town who's losing and give true info

and evils have a game chat

Danger!? Luka!

ST cant take sympathy on the town who's losing and give true info

well thats cause of lune not wanting to be an ST and everything being RNG

which is

8:59 p.m.

also yeah

super fucking strong

@That_Amnesiac You got empath?

lucas cheetah

Mr. Fish

well thats cause of lune not wanting to be an ST and everything being RNG

Also really ironic for lune to advocate for rng

like evils having a night chat

9:00 p.m.

is an obscrul ability

That_Amnesiac

lucas cheetah

You dont lean a role LMFAO That's so asinine

Hi

i can also see drunk

9:00 p.m.

in my pings

9:00 p.m.

so

Danger!? Luka!

ST cant take sympathy on the town who's losing and give true info

thats true but also it cant poison UT twice (without being obvious) for one

Why is chat so active

That_Amnesiac

i can also see drunk

FOR SOME UNGODLY REASON

Cheetah I am fairly certtain is town

LIKE THATS LITERALLY HALF OF WW'S UTILITY

9:00 p.m.

THE OTHER HALF IS JUST GONE

lmao

9:00 p.m.

owned?

9:01 p.m.

i dont even get what the slayer change is supposed to DO

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Why is chat so active

Luka just joined

like WHY is slayer changed

9:01 p.m.

it makes it so it can be canceled through lynch??? i guess????

1 half is learning the role the other half is confing them as non drunk

Mr. Fish

it makes it so it can be canceled through lynch??? i guess????

it just makes it shittier

9:01 p.m.

lol

Mr. Fish

like WHY is slayer changed

To not work in F3 I assume yeah

thats

9:01 p.m.

literally

9:01 p.m.

half of slayers utility

9:01 p.m.

???

if you get to final 3 you deserve the shot

9:01 p.m.

the playerlist is looking a bit like alive: Austria - Soldier Allan - Ft ray/austria not imp Zero - chef 0 Kaz - undertaker [n1. lucas poison] Ray - invest | Stella / Austrai SW Lucas - virgin (Amnesiac Nominated) Amne - Lucas / Cheetah Stella - Ravenkeeper Luka - Monk Fish - Slayer Cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0] Bolded are mech not demon Italisized I read as not demon

LIKE HELLO???

9:02 p.m.

THATS LITERALLT

9:02 p.m.

ok

9:02 p.m.

im just

9:02 p.m.

im done

Fish seems really sincere with the slayer shenanigens

9:02 p.m.

Cheetah isn't triggering her new and informed scumn tells

9:02 p.m.

+ I think the poisoned claim seems genuine

9:02 p.m.

Do evils have a private chat?

YEP

9:02 p.m.

THEY DO!

Christ

9:02 p.m.

Ima kms

I KNOW

thank you my friend

9:02 p.m.

i couldnt find the mod emote

this is so much harder than regular tb

9:03 p.m.

this is a whole snv

9:03 p.m.

this is like

9:03 p.m.

snv but if it was tb

we should turn it into race to the bottom...

race to the bottom

9:03 p.m.

like the script hasnt already hit rock bottom

Austria - Soldier Allan - Ft ray/austria not imp Zero - chef 0 Kaz - undertaker [n1. lucas poison] Ray - invest | Stella / Austrai SW Lucas - virgin (Amnesiac Nominated) Amne - Lucas / Cheetah Stella - Ravenkeeper Luka - Monk Fish - Slayer Cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0]

9:03 p.m.

Also don't think Amne is demon

Mr. Fish

we should turn it into race to the bottom...

LMFAO SO TRUE

i love race to the bottom lmao

Doomsay

the worlds where im evil are so far out there

9:03 p.m.

like

That_Amnesiac

the worlds where im evil are so far out there

BOTC players are cowards and don't claim N1 roles as demon

9:04 p.m.

Everybody else I can see but not u

9:04 p.m.

Also you seem more pure than the NE game

you have to think the evil team is specifically

9:04 p.m.

me,

9:04 p.m.

zero,

9:04 p.m.

and cheetah

9:04 p.m.

no other world

9:04 p.m.

works.

9:04 p.m.

theres not a single other world that i can think of

ive already said i feel like amne is Just Good and i think lucas is Just Evil

that allows me evil

@Lunexia add me to vc noob

me being evil makes literally no sense which is why i think lucas and free hard pushing it is sus

Danger!? Luka!

Austria - Soldier Allan - Ft ray/austria not imp Zero - chef 0 Kaz - undertaker [n1. lucas poison] Ray - invest | Stella / Austrai SW Lucas - virgin (Amnesiac Nominated) Amne - Lucas / Cheetah Stella - Ravenkeeper Luka - Monk Fish - Slayer Cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0]

My evil team is going to be Austria / Zero / Stella without reading much of anybodys logs just based off of this

Danger!? Luka!

the playerlist is looking a bit like alive: Austria - Soldier Allan - Ft ray/austria not imp Zero - chef 0 Kaz - undertaker [n1. lucas poison] Ray - invest | Stella / Austrai SW Lucas - virgin (Amnesiac Nominated) Amne - Lucas / Cheetah Stella - Ravenkeeper Luka - Monk Fish - Slayer Cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0] Bolded are mech not demon Italisized I read as not demon

cant believe you bolded the starpassed AND the SW passed demon

and also free is trusting people in their invest pings

9:05 p.m.

for

Mr. Fish

cant believe you bolded the starpassed AND the SW passed demon

some reason

9:05 p.m.

isnt invest just buffed noble

9:05 p.m.

btw

a game where the first 2 deaths are demons would actually be so funny though

That_Amnesiac

isnt invest just buffed noble

Wasnt it always Clueless

thats true

i mean

it actually is lmao (edited)

oh its not

9:05 p.m.

uhhh

9:06 p.m.

noble has

9:06 p.m.

1 evil 2 goods

oh yeah and this has 3 evils

invest can be 2 / 3 evils

sad

I'm just going to go with Cheetah is drunk The main problem is evils have spy grim from n1 so idfk we cant read shit

Danger!? Luka!

I'm just going to go with Cheetah is drunk The main problem is evils have spy grim from n1 so idfk we cant read shit

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

9:07 p.m.

i woke up and everyone had claimed

It's probably best to play this as if it's going to be a poisoner + spy game fyi

9:08 p.m.

Cuz like, its always 2/3

it was actually 1984

I'm going to do some ISO diving and see who I think the most likely evil is

9:08 p.m.

Stella is probably evil btw

9:08 p.m.

I've hated all of her logs so far

9:08 p.m.

@Free's Main Bestie why are you voting Amnesiac

most people were saying to hammer amne

53R0 (Zero)

Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy.

This is a really towny way to claim your role

like today and yesterday

Mr. Fish

most people were saying to hammer amne

Why

9:09 p.m.

They seem rly towny

9:09 p.m.

From what I've seen

Danger!? Luka!

Why

everyone trusts lucas as virgin who got hammered by amne

Zero is townier than not

Mr. Fish

everyone trusts lucas as virgin who got hammered by amne

Why trust Lucas they're in a UT ping

9:10 p.m.

I think that Lucas is just evil lmfao

good question my friend

9:10 p.m.

lmao

Yeah Lucas is just

9:11 p.m.

Evil

9:11 p.m.

They're blatently lolcatting

9:11 p.m.

I trust the chef so they're probably good

9:12 p.m.

Lucas being evil, assuming chef not poisoned confirms ray / amne both of which I trust anyways

9:12 p.m.

Allan seemed really towny

9:12 p.m.

Cheetah is rly towny imo

9:12 p.m.

Zero is decently towny

Danger!? Luka!

They're blatently lolcatting

i dont know what lolcatting means but if it involves the whole "yeah you got me im evil" i agree

Danger!? Luka!

Austria - Soldier Allan - Ft ray/austria not imp Zero - chef 0 Kaz - undertaker [n1. lucas poison] Ray - invest | Stella / Austrai SW Lucas - virgin (Amnesiac Nominated) Amne - Lucas / Cheetah Stella - Ravenkeeper Luka - Monk Fish - Slayer Cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0]

Evil team is Austria / Stella / Kazuma wrap it up

and that

Mr. Fish

i dont know what lolcatting means but if it involves the whole "yeah you got me im evil" i agree

Actively trolling as outed evil

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

@Lunexia

9:13 p.m.

Who's dgm

Danger!? Luka!

Actively trolling as outed evil

its weird cause he ISNT outed evil he is BECOMING outed evil

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

@star

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Pretty blatently racist yeah

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

dont send again splat

...what did he mean by this

jfc

ok but seriously i was saying earlier when people come off as annoying as hell it makes me read them evil and he definitely does do that so i could be blinded by hate like that one guy from ultrakill

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Idk why you would ever post this tbh

9:15 p.m.

Same thing for the other 2 times?

9:15 p.m.

Yknow what

9:16 p.m.

I also meant to send you to another server

Line you

9:16 p.m.

Lune

9:16 p.m.

Deleted their posts too

9:16 p.m.

:soib

9:16 p.m.

LUNE

9:16 p.m.

HOW COULD YOU

THERES AN OPTION NOT TO DO THAT!!!

im assuming he forgot

It's okay whatever

9:17 p.m.

They weren't important anyways

9:17 p.m.

Let's continue playing this game of clocktower

Danger!? Luka!

Evil team is Austria / Stella / Kazuma wrap it up

Remove Kazuma, it's Lucas

9:17 p.m.

Kazuma being their was cuz I was struggling to find a 3rd

Danger!? Luka!

Zero is decently towny

I literally came up with a evil Lucas world and lots of people disregarded it lol

Then I relaized it wasnt them

53R0 (Zero)

I literally came up with a evil Lucas world and lots of people disregarded it lol

Well they're evil so dw

he just IS evil

~~Regardless of alignmnet /j~~

lmao?

The joke is like They're evil. regardless of if they're evil or not

9:18 p.m.

Unless that was your joke too then uhm

9:18 p.m.

I'm dumb

i did get t

9:18 p.m.

it

9:18 p.m.

i just say "lmao???" a lot

Oh LMFAO

9:19 p.m.

I'm dumb as a brick ok

9:19 p.m.

:3

9:19 p.m.

@That_Amnesiac @53R0 (Zero) I dont think that Kaz is a hit

9:19 p.m.

Let's vote Stella instead

Wait what

9:19 p.m.

What happened

I want full marks (Cheetah)

What happened

They were being racist and got banned

9:19 p.m.

Ez

9:19 p.m.

Now we're voting Stella

Danger!? Luka!

They were being racist and got banned

Oh

@Mr. Fish I'd shoot Austria if I were you but I understand not doing it

Danger!? Luka!

@That_Amnesiac @53R0 (Zero) I dont think that Kaz is a hit

I was primarily voting Kaz because they were insisting that Amne was evil even tho mechanically that's not possible lol

If it's not either of them we can loop back around to this D3

9:20 p.m.

My current theory is that Lucas is real poisoner, Cheetah is drunk empath

yeah id be down to probably, soldier just Makes Sense

Zero's chef 0 also makes sense in thdis world

9:20 p.m.

And ray's invest pings do too

Danger!? Luka!

My current theory is that Lucas is real poisoner, Cheetah is drunk empath

i feel like drunk is the only way that info makes sense

9:20 p.m.

because its RNG

Danger!? Luka!

My current theory is that Lucas is real poisoner, Cheetah is drunk empath

Or Cheetah was poisoned n0

which is DUMB

53R0 (Zero)

I was primarily voting Kaz because they were insisting that Amne was evil even tho mechanically that's not possible lol

@Kazuma Amne isn't evil either smh..

because it makes drunk REALLY obvious

53R0 (Zero)

Or Cheetah was poisoned n0

Also possible

9:21 p.m.

Actually

9:21 p.m.

not possible

9:21 p.m.

since my theory has the soldier as evil

9:21 p.m.

and they're adjacent to cheetah

Wait then who was poisoned n0 then

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Oh

9:21 p.m.

Tbh Lucas very blatantly violated the rules multiple times in the server

53R0 (Zero)

Wait then who was poisoned n0 then

Kazuma / Myself / Allan / Fish all make sense as N1 poisons in this world

9:22 p.m.

Allan only if Austria demon

i mean yeah its always possible poison just sunk

9:22 p.m.

plenty of places for it to happen

Yeah poison might of hit a non-info role you right

I think that Fish / Zero / Cheetah are all very socialy towny

So wait why do you want Stella exactly?

and most of the other people I have mech clears on

53R0 (Zero)

So wait why do you want Stella exactly?

In invest pings, kinda POE

9:24 p.m.

I think that a world of Them + The soldeir claim + Lucas just works

Has everyone claimed at this point? Except Stella I think

Everybody has

nah everyone has

9:25 p.m.

stella claims RK

I am fairly certain that the soldier claim is the demon and stella is the SW and that's the world we live in (or vice versa) Either way i'd just pop the soldier claim

im wondering if a genuine RK is hiding among the info roles

I'm probably going to protect Kazuma tonight

9:25 p.m.

I think that they're both sober and real

Cheetah as drunk empath would be sad, but I've been drunk empath before so sadness catsit

Changed my mind

9:31 p.m.

Sprigatto is a better kill

9:32 p.m.

ugh the

9:32 p.m.

player list is dif from stellas list

9:32 p.m.

i have to change a few things

9:34 p.m.

Ugh dont

9:34 p.m.

Slayer shoot yet

9:35 p.m.

This solve assumes a N1 poison

9:35 p.m.

but I duynno how likelyt that is

9:36 p.m.

Gonna be real In EVERY single world I think that Lucas is the poisoner

9:36 p.m.

Let me try to run demon worlds assuming poisoner wiffed

Danger!? Luka!

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Yeah I'm looking at it more and this kinda just is my world?

9:38 p.m.

This is keeping socials in mind

9:38 p.m.

I can see Amnesiac / Sprigatto being evil with Amnesiac demon I guess

9:38 p.m.

but Anesiac seems socially good

9:38 p.m.

Maybe Kaz ditched Lucas under the bus

9:38 p.m.

Not possible

9:38 p.m.

I do think that Sprigatto is always evil and voting their is just safe

Danger!? Luka!

Not possible

impossible*

9:39 p.m.

@Kazuma Why are you pushing Amnesiac, from your POV you know that Lucas is evil

9:39 p.m.

@Alive Line SP Hi, sorry for mass ping We should kill Sprigatto today

9:40 p.m.

I'll probaly random between fish / kazuma I think that if Kazuma dies tonight game is mech solved anyways

9:40 p.m.

I think that Free is just town off of Zero's chef info, I can see them being an evil otherwise

9:40 p.m.

I do think that Sprigatto / Stella always has at laest one though

9:40 p.m.

Even chef info aside

9:40 p.m.

invest*

we could slayer shoot stella

9:43 p.m.

and then at the end of day we kill sw and imp

9:43 p.m.

in that world

I think that that's also very smart

9:44 p.m.

My world can be wrong is th emain thing But in the case it is wrong I thnk the game is very much good for town

stella is SW if evil, no?

Danger!? Luka!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

dis

Mr. Fish

stella is SW if evil, no?

I have Sprigatto as SW Stella as demon

9:44 p.m.

2 evils in invest pings

ah, i see

i pretty much have no say in the situation

allan gamesyt

i pretty much have no say in the situation

You do

9:44 p.m.

You're confirmed town

9:44 p.m.

Give your thoughts

Danger!? Luka!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

I actually think if you look from a mechanical pov its more likely for me to be evil than good lmfao

9:45 p.m.

not like my word is gospel

well i feel like sprigatito isnt a minion... was there something i missed that proves me wrong?

Nothing that proves you wrong, they just feel like a minion I havent read anything they said but

9:45 p.m.

I think that it's more likely their evil than not

allan gamesyt

well i feel like sprigatito isnt a minion... was there something i missed that proves me wrong?

Free's info states that Stella / Kaz / Sprig are Scarlet Woman

ok I looked at sprigattors posts

9:46 p.m.

They're still evil

I was about to investigate you and kaz zero so im thinking kaz is the scarlet women. But thats because i dont really have much info except the only info i got when i was still alive

Kaz's info on Lucas is accurate I think

9:47 p.m.

Only reason why less likely to be SW

allan gamesyt

I was about to investigate you and kaz zero so im thinking kaz is the scarlet women. But thats because i dont really have much info except the only info i got when i was still alive

You were were going to die regardless

9:47 p.m.

I don't think you stated who you were investing

no i didnt

9:48 p.m.

i like to surprise people

I notice majority is enabled

9:48 p.m.

Let's wrap this up and hammer them

allan gamesyt

i like to surprise people

Also, NGL I think me or Kaz would of been your red heiring

@Mr. Fish I'd shoot Stella WCS it leaves a RK alive who's conf not demon to endgame

9:48 p.m.

Up to u tho

who replaced uhhhh

9:48 p.m.

the

9:49 p.m.

lucas

Wd unno yet

oh

Wiat till lune posts iut

im sorry im a bit busy, ill consider it for sure

i was just gonna tell them

9:49 p.m.

their prev already kinda outted them lol

That_Amnesiac

i was just gonna tell them

dw i'll tell them they're outedf

9:49 p.m.

<3

9:52 p.m.

Well anyways, that was a really hard 1 hour of solving the grim

9:52 p.m.

I'm going to go to sleep

9:53 p.m.

(I wont)

9:53 p.m.

but if I pretend I will itl make it nicer

9:53 p.m.

@I want full marks (Cheetah) vote uh sprigatto btw

Wait so you think I’m drunk and night 1 info was wrong but n2 was right?

9:53 p.m.

I mean

9:53 p.m.

Sure I guess

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Wait so you think I’m drunk and night 1 info was wrong but n2 was right?

Yeah

9:53 p.m.

I can see both of ur neighbors as evil but i tihnk its more likely

9:53 p.m.

chef was n1 poisoned

9:53 p.m.

if one of ur neighbors is evil its probably going to be kazuma

9:53 p.m.

and stella is good

9:53 p.m.

in that world we still kill sprigatto

Cool

12:30 a.m.

@Zade you’re dead anyways what was your role

12:30 a.m.

Don’t be like Lucas

12:31 a.m.

Lmao

sup zade

You all

12:31 a.m.

Let me die a virgin

12:32 a.m.

How could you

12:33 a.m.

No one even volunteered to-!

12:33 a.m.

Haofnwofnkw

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Don’t be like Lucas

Wait what did he do

12:33 a.m.

Why did he get banned

Zade

Wait what did he do

Racist shut

12:34 a.m.

Shit

Oh

12:38 a.m.

The hammering I got wasn't the hammering I wanted

12:38 a.m.

And now I can't be hammered anymore

Danger!? Luka!

@Free's Main Bestie why are you voting Amnesiac

only way for amne to be safe is for lucas to be poisoned n0 (which is just too convenient?) and also I kinda tr kaz and empath got red check b/w kaz and amne

1:01 a.m.

and I kinda feel that we are going somewhere wrong with the mecs

1:01 a.m.

that's why I want to rely on people who have played botc before

Free's Main

only way for amne to be safe is for lucas to be poisoned n0 (which is just too convenient?) and also I kinda tr kaz and empath got red check b/w kaz and amne

i mean, i will say that these things DO happen

1:13 a.m.

like, i had this exact scenario happen

1:13 a.m.

and it was a poisoned virgin

1:13 a.m.

lol

@Zade You subbed into a scum slot

Free's Main

only way for amne to be safe is for lucas to be poisoned n0 (which is just too convenient?) and also I kinda tr kaz and empath got red check b/w kaz and amne

How do you TR empath and

1:48 a.m.

Assume that Lucas can't just be evil??

Free's Main

that's why I want to rely on people who have played botc before

Everybody who has played BOTC before (Me / Fish / Amnesiac) are all wanting to go Sprigatto

Danger!? Luka!

Assume that Lucas can't just be evil??

What evil do you think he is?

1:49 a.m.

demon?

1:49 a.m.

cuz sw and poisoner are still alive

Poisoner Kazuma said that they saw him poisoner as UT

Free's Main

cuz sw and poisoner are still alive

Why do you assume this

Danger!? Luka!

How do you TR empath and

I townread undertaker

Free's Main

I townread undertaker

Bro, the UT says that Lucas is the poisoner

1:49 a.m.

if i vote now does it hammer, by the way?

Yes

Danger!? Luka!

Bro, the UT says that Lucas is the poisoner

ehh

Shoot if you want to before voting

do we want me to hammer now?

1:50 a.m.

right

Free's Main

ehh

forgot to do that

1:50 a.m.

idk if i will

1:50 a.m.

you know what

Mr. Fish

do we want me to hammer now?

I'd prefer you shoot Stella and then hammer but idm just like, a direct hammer It changes who I protect at the very least

im gonna withold if i do it, since i can do that here for some reason, then if stella ISNT demon they dont KNOW if im spent

Is slayer shot not public

if she is the demon they know though cause she didnt fucking die

Mr. Fish

im gonna withold if i do it, since i can do that here for some reason, then if stella ISNT demon they dont KNOW if im spent

uh why are you sure of stella being demon

it isnt here

Mr. Fish

it isnt here

im not but luka is right its a good shot

Free's Main

uh why are you sure of stella being demon

Even if you're not sure why not shoot

1:51 a.m.

Theirs no downside fro doing so

well there IS

1:51 a.m.

in that you lose the shot

But

1:51 a.m.

Shush

but its info

1:52 a.m.

a confirmed non-demon is good

1:52 a.m.

anyways im gonna hammer now

Oki

1:52 a.m.

Bai world

1:52 a.m.

See u all tmr

Danger!? Luka!

Bro, the UT says that Lucas is the poisoner

@Mr. Fish ?

yes..?

nvm

Hammer, stop speaking

it's locked now

ty

Day 3 Top (edited)

Lunexia pinned a message to this channel. 2024-10-07 12:16 p.m.

heya

@Alive Line SP o/ (edited)

Hi

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Hi

feedback please

hi

12:27 p.m.

im lurking around

12:27 p.m.

and here's a clue

12:27 p.m.

i was not cum

12:27 p.m.

(scum)

I got nothing

Kazuma

I got nothing

Wat

12:29 p.m.

What did you get as undertaker?

53R0 (Zero)

Wat

Jkjk

https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk?si=lJ4ynsa-G1UTeJPn

EarthWindandFireVEVO

Earth, Wind & Fire - September (Official HD Video)

Im gonna hold

12:30 p.m.

On to

12:31 p.m.

My info

The vote channel is locked

12:42 p.m.

Is the vote channel supposed to be locked

Who was shot

12:44 p.m.

@Mr. Fish

Kazuma

My info

Can you not though

12:44 p.m.

Evils know what they are

12:44 p.m.

Holding into your info only benefits the evil team

12:44 p.m.

via removing good communication

12:47 p.m.

If they show soldier that's genuinly game changing info

Sprigatito

(scum)

I believe this off of really nothing

12:48 p.m.

That changes my world view

12:48 p.m.

It would be really nice if I has UT info to confirm it tho

12:50 p.m.

@ me when you share it please

12:52 p.m.

If Sprigatto wasnt even hm

12:52 p.m.

It depends on who Fish slayer shot

12:53 p.m.

if free is evil minion

12:53 p.m.

12:54 p.m.

Theirs like 50 other ways for this to work but lets look at this assuming sober drunk info

12:54 p.m.

idt its amnesiac or cheetah sory im tunneled

Danger!? Luka!

Theirs like 50 other ways for this to work but lets look at this assuming sober drunk info

chef*

12:55 p.m.

stella kinda just evil imo, if not demon sw world where stella is evil maybe fish + stella + lucas?

So I am drunk and / or poisoned

12:55 p.m.

This is fun

53R0 (Zero)

So I am drunk and / or poisoned

maybe

12:55 p.m.

we dont know

12:55 p.m.

if you arent, fish stella lucas is what im looking st

12:55 p.m.

if zero is evil their chef info is always real

hello again

Hello

Free's Main

hello again

hihi

I'll come back to this later

we're just awaiting info rn

12:56 p.m.

@Kazuma grrrr

@I want full marks (Cheetah) @Kazuma

12:56 p.m.

aye

cheetah info doesnt matter tbh curtain

12:56 p.m.

technicallt speaking if we get tonights info we can conclude theirs a >rand chance its real

12:56 p.m.

but shrug

I do not sense an evil aura

She was soldier

ty

Damn same time

i believe it

Danger!? Luka!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

stella + fish + lucas anybody curtain

12:58 p.m.

let me look at zades posts

Danger!? Luka!

stella + fish + lucas anybody curtain

@I want full marks (Cheetah) @Free's Main @Kazuma thoughts?

I want full marks (Cheetah)

I do not sense an evil aura

Now bye

12:58 p.m.

Gn

rude smh

Danger!? Luka!

@I want full marks (Cheetah) @Free's Main @Kazuma thoughts?

Idk tbh

12:59 p.m.

Kinda doubting the chef here

so what i think we do is execute stella and have fish shoot one of the n1 roles

12:59 p.m.

probably amnesiac

Kazuma

Kinda doubting the chef here

chef world is lucas + zero +1

1:00 p.m.

who do you think that +1 is

1:00 p.m.

i basically have lucas's slot as lock evil tbh LMFAO

1:00 p.m.

@Zade game solve if real

1:02 p.m.

Consider my vote on Stella

1:04 p.m.

@Lunexia is a drunk undertaker information randomized?

Danger!? Luka!

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lucas town world i should probably consider LMAO uh, amnesiac + free(??????????????????????) + zero amnesiac + zero + stella

1:05 p.m.

@Lunexia is lylo announced

1:05 p.m.

are votes locked in lylo

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

to all 3?

Danger!? Luka!

@Lunexia is a drunk undertaker information randomized?

Read drunk role

Danger!? Luka!

@Lunexia is lylo announced

no

Danger!? Luka!

are votes locked in lylo

no

ok

1:07 p.m.

1:09 p.m.

no dead votes is cancerous

1:09 p.m.

im gonna need to grim solve on pc

1:09 p.m.

would be funny if i was 0/3

1:09 p.m.

possibly amnesiac + stella +1

1:09 p.m.

kazuma always real

1:10 p.m.

Town Core

Kazuma / Cheetah / Luka / Allan This is 4/4 town

1:10 p.m.

Sprigatto probably real too

1:11 p.m.

Town Core

Kazuma / Cheetah / Luka / Allan / Sprigatto Maybe town Free POE Ammesiac / Stella / Fish / Lucas / Zero

1:11 p.m.

Zero most real out of those imo

1:11 p.m.

Largely meta

1:12 p.m.

Ok this is just mafia you cannot mech solve this like I was promised wtf

1:13 p.m.

Amnesiac is towniest mafia terms I believe the self entitlement

1:13 p.m.

idk maybe I suck

1:13 p.m.

Kazuma / Cheetah / Free all not demon in any world

1:13 p.m.

If amnesiac is evil theyre minion imo

Danger!? Luka!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Stella / Zero / Fish / Free

1:13 p.m.

Wow this rly is just mafia h

1:13 p.m.

Cancerous

1:14 p.m.

@Sprigatito Thoughts on anything

1:14 p.m.

?

1:16 p.m.

Theirs a very solid chance Lucas was just a moron which is the only reason why this game I'm icky on

idk

1:17 p.m.

he claimed VIRGIN

Sprigatito

idk

Can you read back on Amnesiac and give thoughts their

Sprigatito

he claimed VIRGIN

Yeah

1:18 p.m.

The world where Lucas is real has Cheetah poisoned b2b and Amnesiac as evil fyi

1:18 p.m.

( Amne )

1:18 p.m.

also why we all lynched me

1:18 p.m.

like

1:18 p.m.

yea...

1:18 p.m.

i WAS town

1:19 p.m.

you'd likely make town lose

1:19 p.m.

i think he could be scum

1:19 p.m.

hard read

1:19 p.m.

outsiders can win with town

Sprigatito

also why we all lynched me

Invest ping

1:20 p.m.

Also I'm a noob

ahh

Danger!? Luka!

Invest ping

an invest ping

Danger!? Luka!

Invest ping

Also I TRd Amne

1:20 p.m.

I'm gonna look back later to see past games

@Alive Line SP

I'm kinda at a enpass

( i do not want to ping )

@Alive Line SP

1:20 p.m.

Wakey wakey

Sprigatito

i think he could be scum

Any town reads

1:21 p.m.

That arent dead

1:21 p.m.

Or Kazuma / Cheetah

1:21 p.m.

also where he'd likely be cleared

We need to kill an evil today imo

That_Amnesiac

A - Read the role you fakeclaim before you claim it

and these notes

Sprigatito

Click to see original message

This is an asinine log what

1:22 p.m.

@That_Amnesiac Explain

Danger!? Luka!

This is an asinine log what

Amne

Sprigatito

Amne

Yeah

1:22 p.m.

I'm saying it's stupid to aay

likely scum read to me

Yeah Amne probably dies today

1:23 p.m.

It guarentees we get into f5 anyways

ye

I also think theyre just evil now LMFAO

ye

1:23 p.m.

lemme guess

1:23 p.m.

scarlet woman

Danger!? Luka!

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@Sprigatito kaz poisoned n2, cheetah poisoned n1/n3, amnesiac evil -> thoughts?

1:24 p.m.

free or zero is drunk in that world i think and the other is probably evil

1:24 p.m.

@53R0 (Zero) idt ur sober if real

Sprigatito

scarlet woman

in that world free / zero has one and stella / fish has one id think?

Honestly, I started to doubt my info once we figured out Lucas was Evil

Danger!? Luka!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

yes ! nice graphics !!

53R0 (Zero)

Honestly, I started to doubt my info once we figured out Lucas was Evil

lucas is kinda real imo LMFAO

1:25 p.m.

I'm on the amnesiac evil train rn

1:25 p.m.

dont vote

1:25 p.m.

yet tho

Oh, then I was poisoned n0

1:26 p.m.

yay

drunk i think

1:26 p.m.

we have cheetah poiosned n0

When you said Lucas is real I thought you meant real virgin

i do mean that

1:26 p.m.

they seem realsies

I can't be drunk then?

and by they i mean amnesiac seems fake

53R0 (Zero)

I can't be drunk then?

amnesiac evil

1:27 p.m.

youre drunk

I can't be drunk if there's already 1 outsider

53R0 (Zero)

I can't be drunk if there's already 1 outsider

oh virgin is an outsider

1:27 p.m.

kms

1:27 p.m.

my clocktower brain

1:27 p.m.

christ im so dumb

1:27 p.m.

one second

(Welp I accidentally flipped Luka's world view)

@Sprigatito hi sorry for spam pings but ik youre here can you try to construct a world where: 1. lucas is real 2. zeros info is sober 3. amnesiac is evil

1:29 p.m.

im not at pc so its hard

1:30 p.m.

ill come back to this tn but its very difficult

Danger!? Luka!

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If my info is Sober, then it's Stella / Lucas / Free or Fish

53R0 (Zero)

If my info is Sober, then it's Stella / Lucas / Free or Fish

lucas free cant be evil together

1:31 p.m.

stella + lucas + fish let me think

But if my info isn't sober then it's Amne / Stella / Fish?

1:35 p.m.

I love that Stella is basically confirmed evil lol

53R0 (Zero)

But if my info isn't sober then it's Amne / Stella / Fish?

could be anyone

1:38 p.m.

this is what i consider the most likely

1:40 p.m.

ugh

1:40 p.m.

it could ve anne stella ray too

1:40 p.m.

so its not that likely

1:40 p.m.

we'll need to see

1:40 p.m.

could be toure evul stella good

No ghost votes is cancerous whoever said that is right

1:43 p.m.

But I have to go back to work unfortunately

Danger!? Luka!

@That_Amnesiac Explain

Explain what bro

1:45 p.m.

My defense that I've said no less than 13 times

1:47 p.m.

WiFi is horrible btw

That_Amnesiac

My defense that I've said no less than 13 times

Their are like 50 worlds where youre evil lol

1:49 p.m.

I dont think that one can possibly assume theirs even remotely one

53R0 (Zero)

No ghost votes is cancerous whoever said that is right

Yeah getting it right today is pivotal

1:49 p.m.

Its just a chained LYLO sequence

1:49 p.m.

God this setup is so scum sided LMFAO

1:49 p.m.

3v8

1:49 p.m.

Danger!? Luka!

3v8

It's better in real botc

1:58 p.m.

You have dead votes

1:58 p.m.

And like

1:58 p.m.

Private chats

1:58 p.m.

And also

1:59 p.m.

Pretty sure it's only 2 in 11p

1:59 p.m.

Not 110

1:59 p.m.

11p

1:59 p.m.

Yes 11p actually

Lucas's Virgin Claim true - Amne is scum Amne's defense happens to be... off on 1 crucial bit... https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1292234273683931176 if the Virgin claim from Lucas is true, then it could not fail, and Amne was the person who caused the hammer. then Amne is scum

2:07 p.m.

@Danger!? Luka!

2:10 p.m.

Sober or not Sober - Zero

Stella happens to be mentioned on both scenarios
Fish happens to be a blurred issue
Free got mentioned on the sober part
Amne is mentioned on the non-sober part
Lucas is mentioned on the sober part

Sober: Stella/Lucas/Free or Fish not Sober: Stella/Amne/Fish (?)

Fish is slight scum lean regardless, Stella is major scum lean regardless

2:11 p.m.

Kazuma is town + alive - sober info

2:12 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1292198879483134124

2:14 p.m.

idk if Zero's info is sober - if he is... then Amne is said to be "town." DEMON - With POISON effect added = cannot be revealed to be scum.

hello again

Poison effect helped Amne Amne is demon !

Free's Main

gm Free

whats goin on

Sprigatito

gm Free

oh good morning

2:15 p.m.

although its about to be night for me

Sprigatito

Lucas's Virgin Claim true - Amne is scum Amne's defense happens to be... off on 1 crucial bit... https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1292234273683931176 if the Virgin claim from Lucas is true, then it could not fail, and Amne was the person who caused the hammer. then Amne is scum

Lucas's virgin claim true - Amne caused hammer - Zero's info is sober and sober info says "Amne is not scum" - AMNE IS DEMON AND THE POISONER HELPED AMNE

2:16 p.m.

@Danger!? Luka!

2:17 p.m.

then we await who is TRULY the scarlet witch (not me)... or if the witch is dead - which other scum is still alive...

Sprigatito

Lucas's virgin claim true - Amne caused hammer - Zero's info is sober and sober info says "Amne is not scum" - AMNE IS DEMON AND THE POISONER HELPED AMNE

@Alive Line SP on 3 conditions 1. Lucas's virgin claim is true 2. Zero's info is sober 3. Amne is scum

2:18 p.m.

Amne is the demon

Sprigatito

@Alive Line SP on 3 conditions 1. Lucas's virgin claim is true 2. Zero's info is sober 3. Amne is scum

wdym by sober?

2:23 p.m.

poisoned?

2:23 p.m.

then why did cheetah get diff result on n1 and kaz got lucas as the poisoner?

Free's Main

then why did cheetah get diff result on n1 and kaz got lucas as the poisoner?

Cheetah could be drunk

uh

2:24 p.m.

but you believe lucas to be virgin

2:24 p.m.

ie zade

2:24 p.m.

now

Free's Main

wdym by sober?

result is not meddled with by poisoner

2:24 p.m.

aka not drunk

2:24 p.m.

i believe Lucas is virgin

same

the poisoner is still alive

did cheetah and kaz claim their info yet?

kaz - i didn't see him claim info

2:25 p.m.

any info

2:26 p.m.

Kaz: i got nothing Zero: wat what did you get as undertaker Kaz: jkjk Kaz: claims info he wants to gatekeep

2:26 p.m.

sounds sus

Sprigatito

kaz - i didn't see him claim info

that we can see

2:27 p.m.

Kaz claiming info he wants to gatekeep is kinda... unorthadox

I want full marks (Cheetah)

I do not sense an evil aura

no evil aura

2:28 p.m.

is the info Cheetah claimed

Sprigatito

is the info Cheetah claimed

2:43 p.m.

evils are cookin

️

Sup sprig. Were you actually soldier?

allan gamesyt

Sup sprig. Were you actually soldier?

kaz isnt saying

2:53 p.m.

‍♂️

2:53 p.m.

@Kazuma bro

wdym kaz isnt saying?

These pings are interrupting kaz time

allan gamesyt

wdym kaz isnt saying?

Nani

Free's Main

@Kazuma bro

Nani??

Dont ask me kaz

‘‘Twas a mistake

Kazuma

Nani??

tell ur result

free said you werent saying when i was asking sprig a question

allan gamesyt

free said you werent saying when i was asking sprig a question

kaz can legit confirm sprig's role if they arent poisoned

Kazuma

She was soldier

You guys haven’t been reading

Oof

2:55 p.m.

Ok then

Kazuma

She was soldier

Oh

2:55 p.m.

alright

but yea. I think amne needs to be hammered. Amnes play is way too scummy for amne to be alive

stella is SW

2:56 p.m.

and cheetah probs got poisoned again

2:56 p.m.

W

ok so amne and stella are a team

if we trust kaz enough

allan gamesyt

ok so amne and stella are a team

yeah

kill stella first

amne/ stella are good lynches tday

allan gamesyt

but yea. I think amne needs to be hammered. Amnes play is way too scummy for amne to be alive

i agree but Isn’t he mech cleared

With stella as scarlett woman she will instantly take on demon as soon as demon dies

Kazuma

i agree but Isn’t he mech cleared

wdym by mech cleared?

Also I still can’t vote

2:57 p.m.

Why can’t it vote

Kazuma

Why can’t it vote

the channel is locked

2:57 p.m.

that's why

2:57 p.m.

‍♂️

Free's Main

wdym by mech cleared?

Idk I was punged 4 times about that yesterday

I aint back reading

Free's Main

the channel is locked

But why

Free's Main

I aint back reading

I’ll look

If you kill me you'll just scream sw so kill the sw Candidate first

2:58 p.m.

:/

allan gamesyt

but yea. I think amne needs to be hammered. Amnes play is way too scummy for amne to be alive

My play as in???

Kazuma

Idk I was punged 4 times about that yesterday

oh that We still dont know how you and cheetah were poisoned at the same time

2:58 p.m.

n1

your normally not extremely defensive as town amne

53R0 (Zero)

I was primarily voting Kaz because they were insisting that Amne was evil even tho mechanically that's not possible lol

Stuff like this

allan gamesyt

your normally not extremely defensive as town amne

Allan

2:58 p.m.

I haven't been town

So you’ll ask zero why mech clear

Yea. Your play of being extremely defensive is more maf siding then town. You are normally always defensive as hell when mafia

Me go bai now

allan gamesyt

Yea. Your play of being extremely defensive is more maf siding then town. You are normally always defensive as hell when mafia

you literally don't know how i play as town

3:00 p.m.

You're reading me off of incomplete info

Danger!? Luka!

Bro, the UT says that Lucas is the poisoner

I mean, that explains everything but I still dont think its true tho

Also I'm not stupid enough to let someone I know is confirmed evil to lead the town

I know your evil amne. Theres no denying it

That_Amnesiac

Also I'm not stupid enough to let someone I know is confirmed evil to lead the town

Who are you talkin bout?

3:01 p.m.

oof

allan

I'm tired as f

You haven't seen me play as town

3:01 p.m.

Stop reading me off of me not being town if you don't know how I play as town

3:01 p.m.

Get off the fucking drugs

Free's Main

Who are you talkin bout?

Lucas

what drugs? Ive never been on drugs

You act like you're on them

ok guys

3:02 p.m.

uh

cause im a constantly neutrally chaotic guy what can i say

3:03 p.m.

Gotta bring the chaos once a while am i right?

does the game end if evils reach parity with town?

uh i think so

Free's Main

does the game end if evils reach parity with town?

It wouldn't in reg botc

3:03 p.m.

Because of dead votes

3:03 p.m.

But since lune butchered botc

3:03 p.m.

I believe so

ima go now. I got things to do (one of which is keeping my new tattoo from getting infected) peace.

"You're usually more passive as town" he has never seen me play as town

well

3:05 p.m.

have you ever played as town?

3:06 p.m.

"your normally not extremely defensive as town amne"

lol

Free's Main

have you ever played as town?

Yeah but you can't angle shoot me for not acting like how I usually play as town when u haven't even seen me play as town

leave me out of this

3:08 p.m.

and I can trust luka to solve it ig

3:08 p.m.

@Danger!? Luka! What's ur theory again?

3:08 p.m.

I still think zade/lucas is virgin tho but that doesnt explain cheetah/kaz being poisoned n1

3:09 p.m.

If cheetah is poisoned n0 and kaz n1 then

3:09 p.m.

hmm

3:09 p.m.

that kinda make sense but then who did they poison n2

3:09 p.m.

Free's Main

that kinda make sense but then who did they poison n2

Who's poisoner then?

allan gamesyt

Sup sprig. Were you actually soldier?

yes !

Free's Main

that kinda make sense but then who did they poison n2

Fact that I got info makes me think poisoner did in fact die

3:28 p.m.

Unless they went on cheetah again

3:28 p.m.

Which is like

3:28 p.m.

Why??

Kazuma

Fact that I got info makes me think poisoner did in fact die

wild

3:28 p.m.

poisoner claiming virgin

3:28 p.m.

what's the play here?

Dunno

3:29 p.m.

Don’t think even Lucas knew

3:29 p.m.

Lol

6 pings lolsies

Kazuma

Unless they went on cheetah again

only other world is their on cheetah yeah

5:28 p.m.

it makes perfect sense their on cheetha

5:28 p.m.

if they go on you again it confirms that lucas was the virgin

5:28 p.m.

which is damning for amnesiac

Free's Main

@Danger!? Luka! What's ur theory again?

cheetah pousoned n0 and n2

5:29 p.m.

kazuma is real

5:29 p.m.

poisoned n1

That_Amnesiac

It's better in real botc

ye

Sprigatito

@Alive Line SP on 3 conditions 1. Lucas's virgin claim is true 2. Zero's info is sober 3. Amne is scum

cute amne can be minion id believe but cute

5:31 p.m.

ill probablt focus a lot on the game tonight

Danger!? Luka!

@Mr. Fish

hi i just woke up, for now ill say i didnt shoot

6:11 p.m.

lemme do morning things

Has cheetah given info yet

7:13 p.m.

Ah she doesn’t sense an evil aura

7:14 p.m.

Which she also didn’t sense yesterday

7:14 p.m.

If we assume I was poisoned and Lucas was virgin

7:14 p.m.

Wait

7:15 p.m.

Yeah no, if we assume that, cheetah’s results clear amne

7:16 p.m.

But if Lucas was poisoner

7:16 p.m.

That means I wasn’t poisoned and cheetah was

7:16 p.m.

2 nights in a row

7:16 p.m.

Her first result is probably the only untainted one

7:17 p.m.

Idk if im making sense

7:17 p.m.

No wait I’m not making sense bc poisoner would be dead wtf

7:18 p.m.

Arrrrfgh

How is this worse than regular botc when the St isn't even doing anything

If Lucas was poisoner, amne is clear of off cheetahs info, if I was poisoned n1 and Lucas is virgin, amne is still clear off of cheetahs info.

7:21 p.m.

Only amne evil world is if cheetah is their partner

‍

That makes sense

7:21 p.m.

i think

That_Amnesiac

‍

(Chef)

Chef needs to die soon

Damn

That_Amnesiac

(Chef)

What’s up w them

The number is a 0

What does chef have to do with you

Kazuma

What does chef have to do with you

We still don't have a full understanding of if my info is sober or not

7:29 p.m.

If my Info is sober, Amne cannot be evil, but if it isn't then Amne is evil

Kazuma

Only amne evil world is if cheetah is their partner

This is primarily why I say this

Kazuma

Only amne evil world is if cheetah is their partner

Or I’m drunk but

7:39 p.m.

We’re pretty sure zeros drunk right

I want full marks (Cheetah)

We’re pretty sure zeros drunk right

whats your info, cheetah?

7:57 p.m.

idk what i missed but last i remember you seemed like the drunk to me

53R0 (Zero)

We still don't have a full understanding of if my info is sober or not

Are you of legal drinking age?

Kazuma

Are you of legal drinking age?

Yes

8:10 p.m.

In all countries as a matter of fact

Mr. Fish

whats your info, cheetah?

They got a 0 again

ah, i see

Kazuma

Yeah no, if we assume that, cheetah’s results clear amne

No

8:12 p.m.

In that world Cheetah was poisoned N1 / N3

Kazuma

If Lucas was poisoner, amne is clear of off cheetahs info, if I was poisoned n1 and Lucas is virgin, amne is still clear off of cheetahs info.

Cheetah drunk

Cheetah has gotten a 0 on every day but N1 right?

Yeah

Kazuma

Only amne evil world is if cheetah is their partner

No

Then explain how did Cheetah get a 0 when not poisoned?

53R0 (Zero)

Then explain how did Cheetah get a 0 when not poisoned?

They were poisoned N0 and N3

8:13 p.m.

Or, N1 and N3

8:13 p.m.

N2 is the rela info

8:13 p.m.

and it's a 1

8:13 p.m.

It would also be the night that Kazuma got false info

8:13 p.m.

in that world

Okay we really need to have some big post to explain what the hell happened

8:14 p.m.

Just something everyone can reference

Okay give me 10 m

8:17 p.m.

Current Gromoire

8:17 p.m.

The world I'm proposing, assuming Lucas is real:

8:18 p.m.

Is this

8:19 p.m.

So, what happened is: Cheetah poisoned N0 / N2 -> Incorrectly learns 1+ Kazuma poisoned N1 -> Incorrectly learns that Lucas is the poisoner

i just feel like thats missing a few things...

What is it missing, aside from other evils

8:19 p.m.

Other evils can be 50 people

(the minions :p)

Not relevant to the argument

yeah i know lol

lmfao

i just find it funny

Yeah, I dont know who the other evils are

8:19 p.m.

Not going to force myself to slot the min

8:19 p.m.

I would guess: One of Free / Zero and one of you / stella

8:19 p.m.

though

let me solo her but its actually a solo demon

Danger!? Luka!

I would guess: One of Free / Zero and one of you / stella

i never know how to respond when people talk about me being scum

Mr. Fish

i never know how to respond when people talk about me being scum

I dont either but only when I'm evil

i meant to

but im so used to

when I good I call them wrong

Danger!? Luka!

I would guess: One of Free / Zero and one of you / stella

In your world that proposed I have to be the drunk so you read me as town anyways? thinky

meh i dont know either way cause it feels like often i walk into a situation where i make everyone think im evil by defending myself lol

53R0 (Zero)

In your world that proposed I have to be the drunk so you read me as town anyways? thinky

You dont have to be the drunk

8:22 p.m.

In that world you're just evil lmfao

Mr. Fish

meh i dont know either way cause it feels like often i walk into a situation where i make everyone think im evil by defending myself lol

Yeah I dont defend myself either since it attrcts more attention but only when I'm evil

Oh right, if Lucas is virgin I'm just evil

Danger!? Luka!

Yeah I dont defend myself either since it attrcts more attention but only when I'm evil

now im evil by NOT responding bros its so over

hey I'm not calling you evil!

8:22 p.m.

Only implying so

8:22 p.m.

:)

true

8:22 p.m.

lol

8:22 p.m.

that isnt different

8:22 p.m.

i cant believe this guy

8:23 p.m.

but yeah i was weighing pros of cons of lying and saying i shot stella

8:23 p.m.

and i decided to admit i havent shot yet

8:23 p.m.

ill shoot today though

Mr. Fish

but yeah i was weighing pros of cons of lying and saying i shot stella

I believe this but also I dont think it's very indiactive of anything

yeah i get that

8:23 p.m.

i feel like MANY things are often not indicative of alignment

8:24 p.m.

but yeah, idk i still think ill pick stella shot today

Like this is just like

8:24 p.m.

A working grim

8:24 p.m.

The question is is it the grim

8:24 p.m.

ima meta dive zero

8:24 p.m.

one second

since slayer shot is end day

8:24 p.m.

if that world IS the world

8:24 p.m.

if we exe amne

8:24 p.m.

will my shot kill stella?

8:24 p.m.

imagine?

@Lunexia whats aro for slayer shot + sw

Danger!? Luka!

@Lunexia whats aro for slayer shot + sw

In regular BOTC the kill happens but game continues I believe

53R0 (Zero)

In regular BOTC the kill happens but game continues I believe

slayer shot is changed to eod

8:25 p.m.

here

well thats not what we are talking about

8:25 p.m.

yeah

8:25 p.m.

me and fish both know how to play botc i think

8:25 p.m.

for the most part

we are trying to see if my slayer shot goes after the execution

@Mr. Fish whats your expereince with mafia outside of botc

8:25 p.m.

q

in which case itd be HILARIOUS???

Danger!? Luka!

@Mr. Fish whats your expereince with mafia outside of botc

outside of botc i only play WWR really

8:26 p.m.

that one discord

Danger!? Luka!

slayer shot is changed to eod

Ah, I see

im not too fond of pure reads mafia

Mr. Fish

that one discord

is it a discord thats good at the game or potato at the game

8:26 p.m.

important q

uh

8:26 p.m.

from your guys standards probably potato

8:26 p.m.

but thats cause they have mechanics and a lot of you are mafia elitists who must have their reads only gameplay

8:26 p.m.

8:27 p.m.

yes im throwing shade

Mr. Fish

but thats cause they have mechanics and a lot of you are mafia elitists who must have their reads only gameplay

Most people here come from role madness backrounds

im on my EVIL arc

I come from a town of salem / throne of lies backround

8:27 p.m.

I also love BOTC and play it a bunch

i see i see

:v

Danger!? Luka!

I also love BOTC and play it a bunch

or, used to

yeah BOTC is just my favorite straight up

8:27 p.m.

its like peak social deduction in my mind

8:27 p.m.

ive started a spreadsheet of all my games

So Luka, just from my POV why are we assuming my info is false? Is it because Amne has to be evil in this world? I mean I totally agree Amne is a great lynch today, but something feels wrong

53R0 (Zero)

So Luka, just from my POV why are we assuming my info is false? Is it because Amne has to be evil in this world? I mean I totally agree Amne is a great lynch today, but something feels wrong

Can you construct a world where amne is evil and your info is sober?

That would have to assume Stella isn't evil I see you're point thinky

I think that you or the virgin is fake

8:30 p.m.

That is my POV

8:31 p.m.

Zero, can you link me a evil game you played?

8:31 p.m.

For my reference

Yeah I can, uh hold on...

i think ive only rolled evil while ive been here (except for this game shut up)

Mr. Fish

i think ive only rolled evil while ive been here (except for this game shut up)

Can I have links to those

uh

8:32 p.m.

i dont even know where to find them

8:32 p.m.

is this what its like to have a stalker?

8:32 p.m.

i mean i can save you some time by saying i think ive been prodded almost every game so

8:33 p.m.

or died early

Mr. Fish

i dont even know where to find them

What were the names?

8:33 p.m.

IE: This is sp56

one was NE one was SP55 i think

8:33 p.m.

i dont know which NE

8:33 p.m.

i imagine it was SP55

8:33 p.m.

considering it wasnt long ago

8:33 p.m.

ne73

8:34 p.m.

and SP55

8:34 p.m.

only 2 games ive played

Sp55 was a glorified ORG

8:34 p.m.

not a game of mafia

8:34 p.m.

I'll check ne73

lmao

Wow I got no info from that

Last time I remember being evil was the GIM

yeah

8:35 p.m.

i did warn you

8:35 p.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1232556168111718440

I think youre town

i can tell you read it cause you were gone for literally 10 seconds

8:35 p.m.

thank you my friend

53R0 (Zero)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1232556168111718440

Gosh that was a fun game

It was, and I could not find a claim worth crap lol

53R0 (Zero)

It was, and I could not find a claim worth crap lol

My claim outed me after 3 days

8:36 p.m.

So its ok

8:36 p.m.

It was better than mine nmw

8:36 p.m.

Anyways quick sim of ISOs you seem twon

But yeah back to topic of my POV I have to assume Lucas is not Virgin, or the world we have is completely wrong

It could always just be this

8:37 p.m.

I think that we vote Amnesiac

8:37 p.m.

wait till ARO tho

8:38 p.m.

@Lunexia Stop yapping in general

8:38 p.m.

Which trigers first

8:38 p.m.

Slayer or SW

i mean, amne did slightly try to not hammer lucas

8:38 p.m.

but im not sure they would like

8:38 p.m.

do that if theyre evil together

Have you considered reading the scarlet woman rolecard yet?

8:39 p.m.

that doesnt answer our question

8:39 p.m.

why dont you just answer it

Scarlet Woman If there are 5 or more players left alive, and the Demon dies due to being voted out, or due to being shot by the Slayer, become the Demon and prevent the evil team from losing. The check for how many players are alive is conducted before the deaths of that phase (including the Demons') are processed. If the Demon kills itself during the night, you will be prioritized over other minions when a new Demon is selected at the end of the night.

I answered by pointing you towards the answer :D

ok then tell us how it answers it?

/ or due to being shot by the Slayer, become the Demon and prevent the evil team from losing.

8:40 p.m.

There ya go

that doesnt answer our question

Lunexia

Have you considered reading the scarlet woman rolecard yet?

Ah yes, the thing that doesnt answer my question

?????????

If demon is executed

8:40 p.m.

is what we're asking

have you considered not being like "DiD yOU rEaD???" and then proceed to not have the answer in the rolecard?

Oh right my bad

we are asking, if slayer shoots the current SW, and demon is executed, do they both die that die?

Its ok lune is a bit slow theyre a german

8:41 p.m.

not their fault they were born with worse genes

Danger!? Luka!

not their fault they were born with worse genes

Germans used to argue otherwise

8:41 p.m.

this is the second time youve asked if ive read while im just trying to clarify things

8:42 p.m.

the first time made a bit more sense but please can you answer our question that is not actually listed

8:42 p.m.

in the rolecard

Lunexia

Germans used to argue otherwise

To re-iterate our question: If Demon gets voted out, what triggers first. SW changing or Slayer shooting

(basically if demon is exed and SW is shot, is the SW a demon at the time of shooting)

(or is the demon still the demon until Night phase?)

im gonna cry

8:43 p.m.

lune left us

It's almost like Lune doesn't know the answer

pointing us to the rolecard which doesnt have our answer, and then saying it has our answer, is CRAZY

Patience is a virtue ig

Danger!? Luka!

To re-iterate our question: If Demon gets voted out, what triggers first. SW changing or Slayer shooting

uhhh i'd say slayer? Hmmge

in a normal game it would be slayer since its instant so hey

Lunexia

uhhh i'd say slayer? Hmmge

You're clearly sided towards the evil team and we should overthrow you smh..

8:46 p.m.

(ty)

thank you bestie

So why don't we lynch the SW today then shoot Amne tommorow?

53R0 (Zero)

So why don't we lynch the SW today then shoot Amne tommorow?

We dont have a full grim

8:47 p.m.

I have speculations of a full grim

8:47 p.m.

but I dont have one

Fair Fair

ok with that logic why dont i shoot amne today but ALSO yeah this is all speculation

8:48 p.m.

also i need to shoot today probably or i Will Just Die

I just don't like this logic of Lucas and Amne being evil together, it doesn't make sense

8:50 p.m.

Lucas was going gun crazy trying to get "vengance"

this IS true

8:50 p.m.

like i said idk if i pair them together

8:50 p.m.

in like

8:50 p.m.

any team

So let's list out every possible scum teams Not including myself for obvious reasons. Town Core - Luka / Allan / Kaz / Cheetah / Sprig (due to Kaz) Possible Scum - Zade (Lucas) / Fish / Free / Stella / Amne If I am NOT sober: Possible Scum Teams: Zade / Free / Stella Fish / Free / Stella Amne / Fish / Stella Amne / Stella / Free Cheetah / Amne / Free If I AM SOBER Uhhh... I'm having a hard time figuring out a world where I'm sober.

9:12 p.m.

Cause if Free is Scum and we don't actually have a SW, my info is fucking useless cause that means we have a spy

53R0 (Zero)

I just don't like this logic of Lucas and Amne being evil together, it doesn't make sense

If we have an evil chat

9:31 p.m.

That would be genuinely

9:32 p.m.

So dumb

53R0 (Zero)

So let's list out every possible scum teams Not including myself for obvious reasons. Town Core - Luka / Allan / Kaz / Cheetah / Sprig (due to Kaz) Possible Scum - Zade (Lucas) / Fish / Free / Stella / Amne If I am NOT sober: Possible Scum Teams: Zade / Free / Stella Fish / Free / Stella Amne / Fish / Stella Amne / Stella / Free Cheetah / Amne / Free If I AM SOBER Uhhh... I'm having a hard time figuring out a world where I'm sober.

Worlds where ur sober would probably have

9:32 p.m.

Kaz evil

9:32 p.m.

Lucas evil

9:32 p.m.

uh

9:32 p.m.

I don't know

9:33 p.m.

So worlds where ur sober I'm def good

9:33 p.m.

Worlds where you're sober say Lucas is evil

9:33 p.m.

Worlds where ur sober have like

9:34 p.m.

Tbh I'm too tired to figure this out I'll do this tomorrow

That_Amnesiac

Lucas evil

What

9:53 p.m.

Worlds where you're sober has 2 people next to eachother evil

9:53 p.m.

Also if Kaz is mafia I'm retiring

The only world that works if I'm Sober is Zade / Stella / Fish

Danger!? Luka!

Worlds where you're sober has 2 people next to eachother evil

Do you think at 10 pm I can remember what the grim looks like

That_Amnesiac

Do you think at 10 pm I can remember what the grim looks like

53R0 (Zero)

The only world that works if I'm Sober is Zade / Stella / Fish

Stella fish lucas

9:54 p.m.

which I was thinking of

9:55 p.m.

No act

9:55 p.m.

Desotna rok

9:55 p.m.

to many poison

9:55 p.m.

yeah LMFAO

How many poisons?

9:55 p.m.

Cause Kaz wouldn't be poisoned

9:56 p.m.

In my POV if my info is correct, the only poison target has been Cheetah since n1

9:56 p.m.

Wait no why would you poison Cheetah- (oh wait they are drunk)

53R0 (Zero)

How many poisons?

Ray Cheetah

10:03 p.m.

Hm what toure sober HughAngry

10:03 p.m.

that world rechnically works

10:03 p.m.

idk LMFAO

Danger!? Luka!

that world rechnically works

I thought so lol

thoughts:

10:13 p.m.

we kill everyone

10:14 p.m.

and then we double kill my corpse for fun

10:14 p.m.

ok i think we kill amnesiac today or stella today

10:14 p.m.

both guarentee we go to f5 i think

I thought I'm gonna replace a dead player and would just be replacing for credits lol

10:23 p.m.

I didn't know I would be able to talk

10:24 p.m.

And I still haven't read the chat

Zade

And I still haven't read the chat

plz do

10:33 p.m.

like

10:33 p.m.

i didnt backread but im stull doimg things

10:33 p.m.

paritcipation is nice

Sorry, I'll do so later

10:54 p.m.

I'm in class rn

Okay, I'm gonna be honest

2:50 a.m.

I don't know a thing about botc

2:51 a.m.

So I didn't even know I'm a good role

2:55 a.m.

I don't know if this counts as angle shooting but the person before me was trash talking everyone in player chats, so I thought I'm not town

2:55 a.m.

Basically treated this slot as a fool or jester who can still talk

WHAT is angle shooting my friend

I mean, I'm not exactly sure, I just saw the term being used

2:56 a.m.

I think using information outside the game?

2:58 a.m.

But I know we're not supposed to talk about replacements, so I'm not sure if it's okay to talk about what he said in player chats

2:58 a.m.

Basically, I didn't know I'm town so I wasn't trying

2:58 a.m.

To play

Mr. Fish

WHAT is angle shooting my friend

angleshooting (v.) = using outside information or messages from hosts to determine a player’s alignment, excluding how the player played in previous games

i see i see

I want full marks (Cheetah)

angleshooting (v.) = using outside information or messages from hosts to determine a player’s alignment, excluding how the player played in previous games

But using messages in player chats from the guy that previously had this slot is okay, right?

Zade

But using messages in player chats from the guy that previously had this slot is okay, right?

yeah

3:07 a.m.

sending a message in player chat

3:07 a.m.

even if from the person before you

3:07 a.m.

is something your slot created

3:07 a.m.

i thinl its fine

Yee, blame Cheetah if I did something illegal

its your slot so its basicalky the same as claiming that you yourself sent a message there

3:08 a.m.

and its YOUR playerchat for this game

3:08 a.m.

soo

idk if id wanna claim to send the messages that other guy sent...

Yea, I was calling everyone dumb in my player chats, sorry guys

3:10 a.m.

I swear, I didn't know what took over me

Zade

Yea, I was calling everyone dumb in my player chats, sorry guys

7:46 a.m.

fuck paranoia

7:46 a.m.

it's fucking paranoia

Danger!? Luka!

cheetah pousoned n0 and n2

so you're believing lucas to be virgin now?

mm

8:46 a.m.

Why is the vote channel still locked tho?

8:46 a.m.

@Lunexia

Free's Main

so you're believing lucas to be virgin now?

You don't believe I'm virgin?

9:13 a.m.

You think I went around and fugged people?

9:13 a.m.

Me??

Zade

You don't believe I'm virgin?

uhh

9:15 a.m.

maybe read my d1 and d2 chats ig?

9:15 a.m.

‍♂️

Danger!? Luka!

cheetah pousoned n0 and n2

also cheetah cant be poisoned n0 and n2

9:21 a.m.

I think

9:22 a.m.

cuz they have diff feedback on n0 and n2

Free's Main

cuz they have diff feedback on n0 and n2

n0 and n2 they both recieved a 0

Danger!? Luka!

n0 and n2 they both recieved a 0

n1 and n2

9:47 a.m.

iirc

9:47 a.m.

that's why people were trying to lynch kaz d2

9:47 a.m.

Free's Main

@Lunexia

fixed t-t

thanks

Zade

You think I went around and fugged people?

Bro is calling you a hoe lmao

10:15 a.m.

Are we still lynching amne orrrrrrr

Kazuma

Are we still lynching amne orrrrrrr

sure

10:18 a.m.

but first try to solve this

10:18 a.m.

‍♂️

I don't care if you lynch me it's just wrong tho

Free's Main

but first try to solve this

Solve what

10:38 a.m.

Amne zero Stella idm seeing die today tbh

Kazuma

Solve what

like why did cheetah get a diff result n1 and you were poisoned n1 at the same time and also who did the poisoner poison n2? (undertaker, empath or monk were fine targets to poison) and also if ur undertaker and sprig is soldier then stella is evil but then again, why did zero get a "zero" if amne and stella are scum together amne/zero/stella team does make sense but it doesnt explain everything

What exactly is the world where I'm evil with Amne?

11:16 a.m.

Cause I'm quite literally trying to kill Amne rn lol

11:16 a.m.

53R0 (Zero)

Cause I'm quite literally trying to kill Amne rn lol

You literally almost killed me to save him lol

Free's Main

like why did cheetah get a diff result n1 and you were poisoned n1 at the same time and also who did the poisoner poison n2? (undertaker, empath or monk were fine targets to poison) and also if ur undertaker and sprig is soldier then stella is evil but then again, why did zero get a "zero" if amne and stella are scum together amne/zero/stella team does make sense but it doesnt explain everything

Let’s vote and worry about the rest tomorrow

11:25 a.m.

What if cheetah is actually the drunk lol

Kazuma

You literally almost killed me to save him lol

It was... 2 votes?

11:27 a.m.

There was almost killed you about that

11:28 a.m.

Also I really hope Lucas was actually poisoner cause if we mislynch today we are basically screwed

We won’t know if we are

11:38 a.m.

Which is okay ig

11:38 a.m.

Ignorance is bliss

@fish

11:49 a.m.

@Mr. Fish did you use ur shot yet?

He did not

11:51 a.m.

Which role shoots

Kazuma

Which role shoots

slayer

12:15 p.m.

?

Ahh

1:14 p.m.

Fish might’ve been last nights poison

‍♂️

Kazuma

Fish might’ve been last nights poison

Fish didn't claim tho right?

1:33 p.m.

Also does poisoner have to be alive rn?

53R0 (Zero)

Also does poisoner have to be alive rn?

wdym

53R0 (Zero)

Fish didn't claim tho right?

he did

Free's Main

wdym

are we still on bout lucas being poisoner?

Yes because we still have to consider the fact that if Zade is poisoner nothing should be poisoned past N2. Does that actually line up

or evils are trying to make us think the poisoner died

‍♂️

Free's Main

or evils are trying to make us think the poisoner died

‍♂️

Then Kaz would be evil then

still the n1 thingy doesnt match up

53R0 (Zero)

Then Kaz would be evil then

yeah

Cause if it's Kaz Evil I can very well see a World where it's Kaz / Sprig / Amne

what kind of poisoner claims virgin right at the start? considering lucas as poisoner makes us comfortable mechanically but its illogical for poisoner to claim virgin here (what if there was an other outsider claim??)

53R0 (Zero)

Cause if it's Kaz Evil I can very well see a World where it's Kaz / Sprig / Amne

amne was tryna lynch kaz tho

1:39 p.m.

same goes for kaz

Free's Main

amne was tryna lynch kaz tho

That could of been a SvS to distance themselves

1:40 p.m.

Cause Amne was using me as a catalyst to push Kaz

idts kaz was on the verge of getting lynched for no reason

Why does everyone keep saying he was close to dying it was 2-3 votes with 9 people

3 votes

1:41 p.m.

and you need 2 more to hammer

1:41 p.m.

anyways

I guess that's "close", but regardless. Shit I forgot my chef info when doing that splat

1:42 p.m.

Wait that doesn't matter they aren't neighbors

1:43 p.m.

So let's say Kaz / Sprig / and some other random person. Who would possibly but the other scum

Free's Main

yeah

wait not necessarily

1:50 p.m.

hmm

@That_Amnesiac What's ur defense again?

53R0 (Zero)

Cause if it's Kaz Evil I can very well see a World where it's Kaz / Sprig / Amne

2:17 p.m.

One is dead

2:17 p.m.

And the other I’ve been dying to get dead

2:17 p.m.

Trying*

2:19 p.m.

zero/kaz/free/cheetah/stella/amne/fish

Kazuma

It was a bad take zeraora_cry_bywoblyear

Free's Main

zero/kaz/free/cheetah/stella/amne/fish

Amne Stella zero easiest team out of those alive

2:23 p.m.

you zero Stella most likely demon candidates

Kazuma

Amne Stella zero easiest team out of those alive

Fish shoots between the two we don’t kill

2:23 p.m.

If we lose, we lose

Kazuma

Fish shoots between the two we don’t kill

?

What do you guys think about my genius plan

Kazuma

What do you guys think about my genius plan

isnt stella conf sw fypov?

Why

Kazuma

Why

uhh

2:27 p.m.

@Kazuma do you know my info?

Nuh uh

did this guy just slip

Bro explain

Kazuma

Bro explain

2:30 p.m.

I'm da investigator

2:30 p.m.

and you even acknowledged my info prev before

Yeah Stella is SW in all worlds basically, and Amne / Me are the demon basically

2:31 p.m.

Free's Main

and you even acknowledged my info prev before

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291417096781168702 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291417116930474034

2:32 p.m.

mhm

2:32 p.m.

this game is confusing as f

2:32 p.m.

especially the n1 results

2:32 p.m.

no one has managed to explain e

2:34 p.m.

especially if you take lucas as virgin

2:35 p.m.

If lucas is poisoner and they poisoned cheetah n0, then that explains everything but I dont see this happening ever

2:35 p.m.

Free's Main

and you even acknowledged my info prev before

What was it

53R0 (Zero)

Yeah Stella is SW in all worlds basically, and Amne / Me are the demon basically

Why didn’t you kill her yesterday then

Free's Main

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291417096781168702 https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291417116930474034

I see I see

2:37 p.m.

I forgor

2:37 p.m.

Why have we been worrying about amne for 24 hrs then

Kazuma

Why didn’t you kill her yesterday then

Because we didn't have the info

wow, i'm not scum

2:58 p.m.

rude

Kazuma

Why have we been worrying about amne for 24 hrs then

Because

Kazuma

Why have we been worrying about amne for 24 hrs then

? cuz they can be demon/poisoner

3:11 p.m.

and not sw

3:11 p.m.

@Mr. Fish you here?

3:11 p.m.

I gotta sleep soon

3:12 p.m.

@Kazuma I want fish to shoot zero before yall hammer

Free's Main

n1 and n2

@I want full marks (Cheetah) rq can you confirm

Danger!? Luka!

@I want full marks (Cheetah) rq can you confirm

I can link the msgs if you want

idk conflicting amne stella wagons neither of them are doing anything today

Free's Main

I can link the msgs if you want

please

Kazuma

Why have we been worrying about amne for 24 hrs then

Amne seems evil and free's info isn't the only thing we have this game lol

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291175928738746472 - n0 info https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291810820065329182 - n1 info

Amne dying guarentees f5 imo over stella who makes it 89% likely f5

Free's Main

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291175928738746472 - n0 info https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1291810820065329182 - n1 info

uh ty sorry im dense

3:16 p.m.

yeah lucas cant be real in that world w/ one evil in cheetah and kaz

3:16 p.m.

yeah stella works no complaints

Free's Main

If lucas is poisoner and they poisoned cheetah n0, then that explains everything but I dont see this happening ever

^^

3:16 p.m.

hmm

3:17 p.m.

still want to go for amne tho

Free's Main

If lucas is poisoner and they poisoned cheetah n0, then that explains everything but I dont see this happening ever

why dont you see it happening lol that aside, drunk exists

Danger!? Luka!

why dont you see it happening lol that aside, drunk exists

but they claimed virgin very early

Free's Main

still want to go for amne tho

i cant see a world where amne is wolf unless both amne and lucas are

Free's Main

but they claimed virgin very early

doesnt rly mean much

uh there's a risk of other outsider claiming

and then you bluff baron

‍♂️

3:19 p.m.

maybe

3:19 p.m.

but its sw/poisoner play if you trust my info

not relevant

3:20 p.m.

im saying ccs dont matter since evils can always bluff baron

yea but

Free's Main

? cuz they can be demon/poisoner

Then shoot ‘em. Simple.

Free's Main

@Kazuma I want fish to shoot zero before yall hammer

Lemme unvote

Danger!? Luka!

i cant see a world where amne is wolf unless both amne and lucas are

? if you believe lucas to be virgin then amne is scum lol

Free's Main

still want to go for amne tho

Shoot ‘em. If amne is demon Stella just becomes demon (i think)

what are you talking about lol i dont think amne and lucas are evil together

3:23 p.m.

and amne can only be evil with lucas

Danger!? Luka!

and amne can only be evil with lucas

why is that

Free's Main

? if you believe lucas to be virgin then amne is scum lol

I mean, amne literally hammered lucas and still didnt die

assuming amne is evil give me any world where lucas isnt also evil lol

3:25 p.m.

cheetah and kazuma have to be poisoned at the same time

3:25 p.m.

it doesnt exist

Danger!? Luka!

cheetah and kazuma have to be poisoned at the same time

thats what's troubling me

3:25 p.m.

hence why they have to be evil together

Ok so what's ur theory again (ig it should've changed since you got cheetah's info wrong)

amne zero kaz is technically possible i just dont believe it

3:26 p.m.

Free's Main

Ok so what's ur theory again (ig it should've changed since you got cheetah's info wrong)

let me get to pc to see

Danger!? Luka!

amne zero kaz is technically possible i just dont believe it

damn if only lune didnt make ww useless

3:28 p.m.

then we could eliminate that

3:29 p.m.

@Mr. Fish probably pew pew amme we vote stella

Free's Main

@Mr. Fish you here?

sorry im like

3:29 p.m.

in class

3:29 p.m.

whats up

Danger!? Luka!

@Mr. Fish probably pew pew amme we vote stella

^^ @Mr. Fish

Danger!? Luka!

@Mr. Fish probably pew pew amme we vote stella

WAIT THATS SO FUNNY

3:30 p.m.

if amne is the demon we still lose

3:30 p.m.

since Lune removed dead votes

3:31 p.m.

as a final fuck you to the good team

3:31 p.m.

Danger!? Luka!

if amne is the demon we still lose

?

Free's Main

?

kaz is sw in that wirld

3:31 p.m.

3v4 rn

oh

2v2 after that happens

3:31 p.m.

god this setup is so ass

If kaz is scum then we are screwed either way

yyyup

luka were you really on me night 2 btw

3:32 p.m.

before you subbed

3:32 p.m.

because that was kinda funny

yah

wild

killing kazuma shoot amne maybe mech wins?

3:32 p.m.

id need to see

3:33 p.m.

no act

3:33 p.m.

if kazuma is good it doesnt

sorry id contribute more but i AM still in class

youre fine

just make sure like

3:35 p.m.

not to hammer before i shoot

3:35 p.m.

cause if that happens then

ok

3:39 p.m.

maybeee

3:39 p.m.

we vote stella shoot amne

3:39 p.m.

stella if town is doing nothing and im p happy losing to that

3:39 p.m.

amne has demon equity

what worlds are cheetah evil in?

3:44 p.m.

cause like, cheetah has talked less according to prods at least

3:45 p.m.

idk if thats indicative of alignment though

i alr suggested what i think and yall disagree

3:47 p.m.

since luka died theyre pre much conf town who disagrees with what i think so what do i say tbh

?? Luka is town what are you talking about

that is what i said

that IS what she said

Eep

stella.

since luka died theyre pre much conf town who disagrees with what i think so what do i say tbh

Lol?

4:58 p.m.

Sorry, to the thing above

4:58 p.m.

not below

4:58 p.m.

Where did you say what you think

stella.

lucas was poisoned n1, empath got kaz/amne, empath poisoned n2 kaz could be solo

how do u think the kaz vote started

Who's the other evils You're just like, calling one person scum

5:00 p.m.

Youre also not commenting on anything that's happened today

stella.

my current hypothesis is kaz ray and someone else that idk yet

sure i did and what happened today?

5:01 p.m.

kaz said austria wasnt scum

5:01 p.m.

fishy didnt shoot me

stella.

sure i did and what happened today?

Conversation lmfao-

stella.

my current hypothesis is kaz ray and someone else that idk yet

Who's the 3rd here, and who's the demon here

stella.

all the evidence is pointing bc towards kaz over amne

What is this evidence

5:03 p.m.

You're having to say a N1 poison snipe over just Amne being evil on their own

amne evil doesnt explain cheetah/kaz n2

Sure

5:04 p.m.

I dont think that free / kaz works as a team

5:04 p.m.

If it's Kazuma I'd gander it's like Kazuma / Amne / Zero

Danger!? Luka!

I dont think that free / kaz works as a team

Free isnt demon in that world

5:04 p.m.

And neither is Kazuma

5:05 p.m.

When is EOD

thats true

9am tmr

5:05 p.m.

ok

in like 16 hours

5:05 p.m.

austria coulda been imp which leads to kaz new imp

Austria was never imp

5:06 p.m.

SW if anything

why?

5:06 p.m.

i think kaz is sw

FT info

oh true

Hi

Hello

I shouldn’t get prodded again

8:37 p.m.

so

8:37 p.m.

anyone

Ugh I wont e able to be on umc htrm

11:27 p.m.

@Alive Line SP

11:27 p.m.

We're 3/4ths through the day

11:27 p.m.

Probably need to increae it a bit

11:28 p.m.

Kazuma + Amnesiac/Stella competing wagons I would v much like

hmm

11:38 p.m.

I'll look in it when I come back

~~lets hammer so i dont get replaced~~

11:58 p.m.

Nah

11:58 p.m.

what if lune does prods anyway

11:58 p.m.

I don't think I've yapped enough to hit proda so this is my yapping

i dont really underdtand botc that much

So I think zero is probably good and I do think they were sober

so i cant tryhard mechanics or anything

11:59 p.m.

im just here

I do also think cheetah is good (sober is questionable.)

im drunk

11:59 p.m.

probably

11:59 p.m.

maybe i got lucky

Well technically you'd be sober

and hit the 1/e twice

12:00 a.m.

3

Because the drunk has

12:00 a.m.

Its own ability

12:00 a.m.

So

12:00 a.m.

You would technically

12:00 a.m.

Be sober

That_Amnesiac

Its own ability

w

12:00 a.m.

hat

12:00 a.m.

it does?

It's mathemstician logic

12:01 a.m.

Your ability isn't malfunctioning aka you aren't droisoned

That_Amnesiac

Your ability isn't malfunctioning aka you aren't droisoned

you know i could have been n0

The drunk doesn't register to the mathematician because they have their own ability

its a diff result from other 2

You don't know what mathematician is

12:01 a.m.

Let me help you with that

12:02 a.m.

Each night, you learn how many players' abilities worked abnormally (since dawn) due to another character's ability.

what is mathematician

12:02 a.m.

and does content matter in these prods

12:02 a.m.

i dont wanna signupban

Mathematician is perhaps the weirdest character

That_Amnesiac

Mathematician is perhaps the weirdest character

how in any way would that help

Oh it physicallh can't be in play

by “how many” you mean a single one from poisoner

12:03 a.m.

That_Amnesiac

Oh it physicallh can't be in play

It's just fun to think about

12:03 a.m.

And it's fun to confuse people when I say the drunk isn't actually droisoned

wow yall still havent made a decision?

10:34 a.m.

youre going backwards by voting me tbh

10:35 a.m.

smh i knew the role call was useless

Why are we even doing this

11:30 a.m.

The day legit ends in 30 mins

Uhh what do we do

11:33 a.m.

11:34 a.m.

I can't just let Kaz die so I'm forced to stay on Stella

53R0 (Zero)

Uhh what do we do

~~not get prodded~~

11:34 a.m.

Anyways

11:34 a.m.

I literally don’t know what

11:34 a.m.

To do

11:34 a.m.

Like

11:34 a.m.

It’s tie

11:34 a.m.

RNG tie

11:34 a.m.

I think imma just vote Stella tbh

11:35 a.m.

I believe luka

@Mr. Fish did you even submit ur action

11:35 a.m.

‍♂️

What even is fish

slayer apparently

Mr. Fish

just make sure like

..

Mr. Fish

not to hammer before i shoot

..

Mr. Fish

cause if that happens then

..

@Mr. Fish DO YOUR ACTION

11:39 a.m.

Cant blame it on hammer when it’s natural day end

11:39 a.m.

@I want full marks (Cheetah) trust me and vote kaz

11:49 a.m.

luka is uncertain anyways

Don’t trust her

11:49 a.m.

She is evil

11:49 a.m.

Big bad

lmao says the imp

naw

I got different results on night 1 and 2 than night 0

kaz and sprig are definitely teamed up here!

I believe night 1 and 2 are correct

the game will end if kaz dies imo

Meaning there are no evils next to me on player list and I was simply poisoned n0

Free's Main

kaz and sprig are definitely teamed up here!

1000%. Both town

Kazuma

1000%. Both town

I forgot I invited lmao

11:52 a.m.

Unvoted

11:52 a.m.

*

11:52 a.m.

**

Don’t hammer so we at least have a CHANCE of fish suddenly coming on and doing action

***

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Don’t hammer so we at least have a CHANCE of fish suddenly coming on and doing action

Kk

11:52 a.m.

8mins tho

11:53 a.m.

7mins tho

11:54 a.m.

If he doesn’t shoot he dies tonight probs

Do dead people still get prods

Zade

Do dead people still get prods

Nah

Okay thank you ❤️

11:56 a.m.

(Blame Cheetah if I get prodded :DD)

EoD

Day 4 Top

Lunexia pinned a message to this channel. 2024-10-10 11:50 a.m.

Sry was playing yugioh

First

@Alive Line SP

GUYS

12:06 p.m.

I SENSE AN EVIL AURA

12:06 p.m.

AND KAZ DIED

12:06 p.m.

SO UNLESS I WAS POISONED OR IM DRUNK

12:06 p.m.

FREE IS EVIL

12:07 p.m.

Since the results included amne

12:07 p.m.

And amne and kaz showed 0

I want full marks (Cheetah)

FREE IS EVIL

Pretty sure I was poisoned n0

12:08 p.m.

Or maybe I’m drunk

12:08 p.m.

Idk

Im not even gonna defend

12:08 p.m.

But it’s generally just suspicious that the feedback changes the second free is in my neighbour list

Free's Main

Im not even gonna defend

You forfeit?

Kazuma

You forfeit?

There’s only like

Can we just vote free then

2 evils left

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Can we just vote free then

Wait

I want full marks (Cheetah)

But it’s generally just suspicious that the feedback changes the second free is in my neighbour list

that's not how it works

12:09 p.m.

but okay

12:09 p.m.

go ahead

Free's Main

that's not how it works

It is tho

Lune mentioned already that if am empath’s neighbour dies, that nights results would include the new neighbour

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301443126984735/1293953099010019379

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Lune mentioned already that if am empath’s neighbour dies, that nights results would include the new neighbour

*an

12:10 p.m.

I also doubt poisoner STILL exists

Kazuma

It is tho

ask lune tho (I think empath's neighbour(in this case "you") is considered in the result even if you die at the same night)

12:10 p.m.

just confirm it tho

@Mr. Fish why didn’t you shoot

Kazuma

@Mr. Fish why didn’t you shoot

Cuz he was inactive

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Lune mentioned already that if am empath’s neighbour dies, that nights results would include the new neighbour

oh

I want full marks (Cheetah)

I also doubt poisoner STILL exists

they do

12:11 p.m.

‍♂️

I want full marks (Cheetah)

I also doubt poisoner STILL exists

Doubt it

unless you think im evil ofc

We got it right yesterday me thinks

You’re literally evil unless I’m drunk or poisoner still exists

And if poisoner was still alive I don’t think I’d be dead

Kazuma

We got it right yesterday me thinks

ofc

12:12 p.m.

my info

12:12 p.m.

12:12 p.m.

stella is sw fmpov

I say we kill amne

Kazuma

I say we kill amne

then who's the last evil

12:13 p.m.

?

12:13 p.m.

zero?

Or you or cheetah, who knows

12:13 p.m.

Amne is one of them

12:13 p.m.

That’s all I know

12:14 p.m.

Amne x cheetah Amne x zero Work well

12:14 p.m.

Free x cheetah doesn’t Free x amne doesn’t Free x zero could

Is LyLo announced or are we left to ponder how many days we actually have left

12:15 p.m.

If we got poisoner and sw out then there’s one left no?

12:16 p.m.

Worst case scenario we have two

If I’m actually empath and not drunk

12:16 p.m.

Then free is evil and amne isn’t

Kazuma

Amne is one of them

Fish could be one of them too ya know

Or amne is spy and demon is still alive

Demon HAS to be in the game?

I mean if town votes out the demon evil loses

12:17 p.m.

The entire evil team is centred around the demon

I see I see

Yes the demon HAS to be in

So demon is probably alive

Kazuma

So demon is probably alive

Demon is DEFINITELY still alive

12:20 p.m.

The game would’ve ended if it wasn’t

12:20 p.m.

Cuz sw turns into demon

for the record i shot amne so it isnt amne

12:30 p.m.

i had it queued but i was gonna possiblt chnage it

12:30 p.m.

its fucking 9:30am i think i need sleep

12:30 p.m.

why am i still here

Kazuma

@Mr. Fish why didn’t you shoot

i did

I want full marks (Cheetah)

FREE IS EVIL

The game didn't end, so this means that we lynched an evil on some day Sprig is safe based on Kaz's info and I doubt Lucas is evil too So the only one left is stella. And by who's info did we decide that stella is evil?

12:32 p.m.

‍♂️

Mr. Fish

i did

And who was it

12:41 p.m.

We can conf them not demon

12:41 p.m.

…if YOU aren’t evil

If a living demon doesn't exist good wins

I want full marks (Cheetah)

And who was it

i said it

12:42 p.m.

i shot amne

12:42 p.m.

amne is not demon

Mr. Fish

amne is not demon

Can confirm

That is what I believe as well according to my sudden info change

unless stella is demon and amne is SW but i mean

So basically I shouldn't ever be executed

is invest on amne

Kaz died, so my info includes free today.

i forgor

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Kaz died, so my info includes free today.

And it came back as sending an evil aura

That_Amnesiac

So basically I shouldn't ever be executed

Because sw ability is deactivated

12:43 p.m.

In f5 or less

true!

While the past two days with amne and kaz was no evil aur

12:43 p.m.

a

12:43 p.m.

I do not believe amne is demon as well

I want full marks (Cheetah)

And it came back as sending an evil aura

*sensing

well i mean from my eyes he just cant be unless SPECIFICALLY stella is SW

12:43 p.m.

err

12:43 p.m.

demon

12:43 p.m.

and he is SPECIFICALLY sw

12:43 p.m.

but thats like

12:43 p.m.

not it

12:43 p.m.

i imagine

12:43 p.m.

im like really tired

12:43 p.m.

im going to sleep

12:43 p.m.

gn my friends

12:43 p.m.

i havent slept at 10am

We don't exe today

12:44 p.m.

Wait

12:44 p.m.

We do

12:44 p.m.

Nvm

12:44 p.m.

Thought it was f4

What do you guys think

12:45 p.m.

Am I really empath

12:45 p.m.

Or am I drunk

12:45 p.m.

Cuz from my info, unless free is recluse he is conf evil

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Or am I drunk

I don't know

12:45 p.m.

But if we end up in f3 with 2 evils we auto lose

12:46 p.m.

Because dead votes don't exist for some reason-

So we 100% know that at least 1 evil is dead

Yes

12:46 p.m.

And id say that's lucas

12:46 p.m.

Potentially someone else tho

same bestie same

That_Amnesiac

Potentially someone else tho

And

My thought is Stella / Zade evil

12:51 p.m.

Mainly because Kaz was almost killed yesterday and me and Cheetah saved them

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Cuz from my info, unless free is recluse he is conf evil

Free's Main

I think Cheetah is drunk

I'll look into it tmrw

1:46 p.m.

Dead chat

Dead dead

Dead dead dead

Sprigatito

used /emote

Sprigatito

used /deadchat

hi y'all

So here's the thing, the only world where Kaz is possibly evil is if he killed himself last night to star pass to another minion else wise they are cool

4:59 p.m.

but I very very highly doubt this but I needed to bring it up for discussion

Kazuma dying is p pog

5:50 p.m.

I wouldve just killed Cheetah if I were evil

Yeah Cheetah is basically the only confirmed good of the people alive

Kazuma isn't even technically confirmed I just dont think they're evil curtain

7:31 p.m.

Fish Free Zero Amnesiac

Danger!? Luka!

Kazuma isn't even technically confirmed I just dont think they're evil curtain

That's what I mentioned (Kaz would of Starpassed if evil)

Danger!? Luka!

Kazuma isn't even technically confirmed I just dont think they're evil curtain

Cheetah*

53R0 (Zero)

That's what I mentioned (Kaz would of Starpassed if evil)

Cheetah*

Oh sorry

7:37 p.m.

53R0 (Zero)

Oh sorry

Not your fault, it's mine for being a dummy

7:37 p.m.

Don't be sorry

So, given all the information we have. Do we think Cheetah is drunk or sober ATM?

7:39 p.m.

I'm quite frankly under the assumption I was poisoned n0 and then Cheetah is the drunk. Kaz's information has been real this whole time

Kazuma's N2 is real

7:42 p.m.

I think that they're N1 is >rand real

7:42 p.m.

@stella. is confirmed evil atp

7:42 p.m.

(Hi, pinging just incase you're good)

7:42 p.m.

I can see Lucas being evil too

7:42 p.m.

We just have to find the last weed

7:42 p.m.

Which is probably you but we can pretend to look elsewhere

Danger!? Luka!

Which is probably you but we can pretend to look elsewhere

If it was me, why the hell would I go out of my way to kill Stella

7:48 p.m.

I could of easily gone for Kaz

7:48 p.m.

If I was evil wouldn't of I just went for evil majority and get both info roles gone in one cycle

7:50 p.m.

I am very skeptical of the Slayer claim atp of the game, I believe Free is invest. Amne from my POV is a 50/50 and I can't figure it out

Uhm youre right

7:54 p.m.

Let me look into it ltr

im assuming we think poisoner was dead at the time of my shooting right

8:20 p.m.

because if so then amne just Isn't The Demon

Mr. Fish

im assuming we think poisoner was dead at the time of my shooting right

Who did you shoot?

amne

8:21 p.m.

so unless amne is SW or im poisoned/drunk amne is clear

Cheeath has to be the drunk in most worlds, and poisoner is likely Zade / Lucas

8:22 p.m.

Stella was almost garenteed SW atp

8:24 p.m.

Which means from everyone's POV it's me or Free

8:24 p.m.

But does that make sense...

What was cheetahs info again

8:25 p.m.

N1-N4

N1 - 1 N2 - 0 N3- ? (Forgot let me check) N4 - 1

8:27 p.m.

N3 was also 0

8:28 p.m.

Which oddly lines up perfectly with the chances of drunk (thanks RNG)

8:35 p.m.

problem is we don't know what info is true

many such cases my friend

53R0 (Zero)

N1 - 1 N2 - 0 N3- ? (Forgot let me check) N4 - 1

huh

9:43 p.m.

Aren't you claiming chef

That_Amnesiac

Aren't you claiming chef

This is Cheetah's info

9:43 p.m.

ouh

9:44 p.m.

Me when I am not smart

Am I drunk

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Am I drunk

Can you confirm your N0-N3 results?

N0 1-2 n1 0 n2 0 n3 1-2

10:12 p.m.

I’d like to believe I was poisoned n0 tbh

10:12 p.m.

Instead of me being drunk

10:13 p.m.

And that free may be evil

I want full marks (Cheetah)

I’d like to believe I was poisoned n0 tbh

Would I be the drunk then?

53R0 (Zero)

Would I be the drunk then?

If I’m sober you’re probably the drunk

Someone has to be drunk between us two

10:14 p.m.

Actually wait, do I even need to be drunk or poisoned

10:15 p.m.

If the team is Stella / Zade / Free then yes

Guys drunk isn’t even guaranteed

10:15 p.m.

Drunk is atp

10:15 p.m.

Cause Zade our only outsider claim is basically confirmed evil

yeah im basically 100% sure a drunk exists

10:20 p.m.

it could be literally anyone though since we dont have an ST

Mr. Fish

it could be literally anyone though since we dont have an ST

For most worlds, it has to be me or cheetah with the other being poisoned n0

10:26 p.m.

Unless ofc you want to call yourself evil then in that case I wouldn't be drunk / poisoned

theres a world where im drunk and its amne i feel

Is the poisoner dead though

10:26 p.m.

Who even was it

yeah we assume so in most worlds

If we believe Kaz is good

lucas

10:26 p.m.

although he could be a different minion and poisoned i suppose

Then Zade/Lucas was the Poisoner

poisoned kaz, i mean

If they aren't poisoner then who is / was?

10:27 p.m.

Free?

yeah i have no clue

10:27 p.m.

10:29 p.m.

i believe theyre poisoner

Fish could you tell me this at least, out of who is alive who is the most likely demon? Also why

im just saying its possible otherwise

10:29 p.m.

hmmm

10:29 p.m.

im gonna be real i have been a bit behind for a day or two

10:30 p.m.

so im not that confident in my reads and such

That's completely fine, we just need to see everyone's thoughts at this point

but currently i would believe it to be kaz or possibly amne (questionable) since i feel like an undertaker being alive this late (which cant be poisoned due to how it works here) is a bit weird, and if not that then maybe amne because it feeds into the empath and chef info with possibly free as a minion, unsure though

Mr. Fish

but currently i would believe it to be kaz or possibly amne (questionable) since i feel like an undertaker being alive this late (which cant be poisoned due to how it works here) is a bit weird, and if not that then maybe amne because it feeds into the empath and chef info with possibly free as a minion, unsure though

Kaz is dead, so Amne then?

kaz died?

Yeah

well there goes that point

10:32 p.m.

lol

Danger!? Luka!

It could always just be this

sorry im just distracted and looking at this for reference

10:32 p.m.

i somehow failed to notice that is a day old

10:32 p.m.

ingame day

If I could recreate it I would

THREE real days

10:33 p.m.

idk amne i had less suspicion of

10:33 p.m.

i dont THINK its amne

Mr. Fish

sorry im just distracted and looking at this for reference

Give me one second

10:34 p.m.

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Guys drunk isn’t even guaranteed

Just admit you're an alcoholic

drunk is all but guaranteed at this point

Amnesiac more like

10:36 p.m.

Scumnesiac

10:36 p.m.

(I dunno who it is)

what were invest pings again?

I think that Amnesiac + Fish + Lucas makes mech sense as the team

Wait, Free can't be demon due to allen

Which is the main reason why I think that world might be possible

53R0 (Zero)

Wait, Free can't be demon due to allen

Yes

Danger!? Luka!

I think that Amnesiac + Fish + Lucas makes mech sense as the team

In this world we murder (stab) Amnesiac and probably win

SW can't proc at this point

yeah

So we can ignore minons

10:37 p.m.

Sort of-

53R0 (Zero)

So we can ignore minons

Yeah infact let's game solve assuming everybody is town

10:38 p.m.

I think it's lune

10:38 p.m.

(we can't really ignore minions lol)

ATHEIST GAME???

True!!

Danger!? Luka!

I think that Amnesiac + Fish + Lucas makes mech sense as the team

Fish not responding to this is very wolfy

10:38 p.m.

I actually think thats the team

10:38 p.m.

Well anyways see you guys next week

Oh okay bye

Danger!? Luka!

Fish not responding to this is very wolfy

its so over

10:39 p.m.

my defense to that is that i have individually pushed both of them

Danger!? Luka!

Fish not responding to this is very wolfy

Fish wasn't in the SW ping tho?

i think i was also the first person to push lucas, in fact

Everyone wanted Lucas ded to confirm Virgin atp

Mr. Fish

i think i was also the first person to push lucas, in fact

This is true but I dont think it's clearing

yeah but not until i said we should do it

Danger!? Luka!

This is true but I dont think it's clearing

i agree but its all i really have for a defense for that

Their is another option

10:40 p.m.

Game solve

10:40 p.m.

:3

and you wanted me to respond so

10:40 p.m.

lol

I mean you could always respond with "wtf no its not me"

10:41 p.m.

thats townier than going

10:41 p.m.

...

10:41 p.m.

Why me?

Wow thats actually really towny of you

I am blackmailed.

Mr. Fish

Why me?

OOP-

53R0 (Zero)

Yeah Cheetah is basically the only confirmed good of the people alive

Not really

53R0 (Zero)

I could of easily gone for Kaz

Tbf you tried… the day prior…

3:02 a.m.

with Stella even

hello

3:03 a.m.

what's up guys

53R0 (Zero)

If we believe Kaz is good

As you should

Mr. Fish

i believe theyre poisoner

Poisoner dead. If they’re alive I’d have just poisoned me to hide Stella and kill cheetah

Kazuma

Tbf you tried… the day prior…

That's what I mean

Kazuma

Poisoner dead. If they’re alive I’d have just poisoned me to hide Stella and kill cheetah

mm what's ur theory?

I could of easily went with Stella again to kill you actually but I didn't

Free's Main

what's up guys

The sky

Free's Main

mm what's ur theory?

Idk. If we believe fish then it’s just a 50/50 between you two

3:12 a.m.

*you and zero

3:13 a.m.

There’s also Lukas team

Kazuma

Idk. If we believe fish then it’s just a 50/50 between you two

wdym by 50/50 between me and zero

3:16 a.m.

alive - free, cheetah, zero, fish, amnesiac

Kazuma

There’s also Lukas team

But I don’t think it’s them bc one would have pushed the poisoner out day 1 framing him as the virgin and trying to kill his other partner (amne) Unless fish is demon I don’t see that happening

Kazuma

But I don’t think it’s them bc one would have pushed the poisoner out day 1 framing him as the virgin and trying to kill his other partner (amne) Unless fish is demon I don’t see that happening

yes, lucas claiming virgin as poisoner is stupid as f

Free's Main

wdym by 50/50 between me and zero

@Kazuma

Free's Main

wdym by 50/50 between me and zero

For the lynch today

Kazuma

For the lynch today

and why is that?

Cheetah

3:18 a.m.

And gut

3:18 a.m.

fmpov yall lynched sw

3:18 a.m.

and if we lynch the demon then we win

3:18 a.m.

and im mechanically cleared from being demon

3:18 a.m.

and if lucas is virgin then poisoner is still alive fmpov

Free's Main

fmpov yall lynched sw

(stella)

Idt id have voted you if I were alive

3:19 a.m.

(Thank god)

Kazuma

Cheetah

I dont see how cheetah can be empath if lucas is virgin

3:20 a.m.

3:20 a.m.

their results doesnt even make sense even if a poisoner exists

3:20 a.m.

again

3:21 a.m.

I'll leave the mechs to botc players

3:21 a.m.

If we lose this I blame [ insert scapegoat]

Free's Main

alive - free, cheetah, zero, fish, amnesiac

im cleared from being a demon, and if you believe fish then both fish and amne cant be demon so that just leaves cheetah and zero

3:27 a.m.

also take the case where fish is lying

Kazuma

Poisoner dead. If they’re alive I’d have just poisoned me to hide Stella and kill cheetah

im talking of lucas

3:36 a.m.

i believe lucas was poisoner

Mr. Fish

i believe lucas was poisoner

Ok so if lucas is poisoner and cheetah's drunk then whos the demon?

3:47 a.m.

3:48 a.m.

you even cleared amne of being a demon

3:48 a.m.

that just leaves zero, no?

3:48 a.m.

what was ur scum team again?

Free's Main

that just leaves zero, no?

fypov

3:49 a.m.

and again

You all love Lucas so much

6:01 a.m.

What about Zade

i

u zade

Oh, Stella

always bbg

Stop flirbing

6:27 a.m.

That gross

Can't get laid when I was alive, can't get laid now that I'm dead

Kazuma

That gross

don’t be jealous

you can join

6:30 a.m.

bring back polyamory frfr

Free's Main

@Kazuma I want fish to shoot zero before yall hammer

maybe we could've lynched amne and shot zero yesterday https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1293290003115278378

6:34 a.m.

u could’ve done anything but you should’ve done something else anyways

6:37 a.m.

fish’s shot said amne not imp anyways

uh dont misunderstand me

Free's Main

maybe we could've lynched amne and shot zero yesterday https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1293290003115278378

If we did that, then we would've lynched you tday

What if

6:40 a.m.

Poisoner is still alive and poisoned cheetah to frame free and “clear” amne

Kazuma

Poisoner is still alive and poisoned cheetah to frame free and “clear” amne

If they are, who's the poisoner? Fish?

7:34 a.m.

Actually, thinking about it

Fish would be demon

8:06 a.m.

Amne poisoner

Kazuma

Fish would be demon

Fish can't be demon

9:07 a.m.

It would have to be Amne Demon / Fish poisoner

I mean fish cleared amne of being demon specifically

9:21 a.m.

The team could really just be them

9:21 a.m.

And I’m drunk

9:21 a.m.

Or got poisoned n1 and 2

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Or got poisoned n1 and 2

naw

9:24 a.m.

kaz got poisoned n1

9:25 a.m.

or lucas was poisoner

9:25 a.m.

ugh

9:26 a.m.

nothing make sense unless we take lucas - poisoner and cheetah - drunk

9:26 a.m.

but I dont think that's the case

9:26 a.m.

Free Amne is possible

9:33 a.m.

No lynching is useless cause they just kill Cheetah catsit

9:34 a.m.

And if two evils we lose anyways

53R0 (Zero)

Fish can't be demon

Why

Kazuma

Why

Allan's indo

9:36 a.m.

Info*

9:36 a.m.

Fish / Sprig cannot be demon

I see I see

53R0 (Zero)

Fish / Sprig cannot be demon

welp

Then amne free zero are the demon candidates

9:38 a.m.

Free got sw out

9:38 a.m.

So probs not him

9:38 a.m.

kaz...

9:38 a.m.

Its me and sprig

9:38 a.m.

allan checked us

Wha

9:39 a.m.

Oh ft

9:39 a.m.

So yea amne/zero solves me thinks

Free's Main

Its me and sprig

Oh my mistake

11:05 a.m.

Oh wait no I said that right catsit

Kazuma

So yea amne/zero solves me thinks

What if it's only 1 evil tho?

11:06 a.m.

Amne / Fish is also a world thinky

11:06 a.m.

But also just amne

11:07 a.m.

Why did that vote twice lol

11:13 a.m.

If this doesn't quick hammer then yay, if not oh well. I might of just gave evils the win

53R0 (Zero)

What if it's only 1 evil tho?

There’s minimum one in the two of you

Kazuma

There’s minimum one in the two of you

Yeah, I know.

Here now for a bit

1:35 p.m.

what I came to last night was that Kazuma / Cheetah town and Stella evil

1:35 p.m.

and that's about it

1:35 p.m.

I think that we should world build around Stella being evil every time, their confidence in hindsight doesn't really make sense (esp with knowledge we know)

1:36 p.m.

Dead players should be prodded too imho as well

1:36 p.m.

This is a game in which you play while dead, it's not as if you being alive has much advantages (aside from the vote)

1:36 p.m.

But like, whatever

Kazuma

So yea amne/zero solves me thinks

Stella was evil, and I think that in nearly every world Zade flips evil

1:36 p.m.

Amnesiac / Zero / Stella might work though let me think it out

1:36 p.m.

No it doesnt

1:36 p.m.

Amnesiac / Zero / Zade

1:37 p.m.

Nothing stella has done makes sense in that world

You think it’s both zero and amne?

Danger!? Luka!

Amnesiac / Zero / Stella might work though let me think it out

Why would I kill Stella yesterday?

2:10 p.m.

If I knew we could of won by killing Kaz why would I ever vote Stella

Danger!? Luka!

Amnesiac / Zero / Zade

Also on this point, why would be voting the demon rn?

2:12 p.m.

Kazuma

You think it’s both zero and amne?

Not really

53R0 (Zero)

If I knew we could of won by killing Kaz why would I ever vote Stella

Yeah, this is a good point fwiw

53R0 (Zero)

Also on this point, why would be voting the demon rn?

You could very well be the demon lol

Danger!? Luka!

You could very well be the demon lol

If I'm the demon, wouldn't I just be lynched tomorrow?

2:22 p.m.

If I'm killing my own minion, that makes no sense

2:23 p.m.

Wouldn't I be heavily pushing Fish to distract everyone. Also wouldn't Free be my minion and not Amne

2:24 p.m.

Fish and Amne confirmed each other by technicalcality (Slayer shot) they are more paired than me and Amne by a long shot

2:27 p.m.

I completely understand I'm quite literally the only person with no info on them at all, which makes me (quite frankly) the easiest to push

2:28 p.m.

If it wasn't F5 I would be begged to be lynched so worlds could be closed

53R0 (Zero)

If I'm the demon, wouldn't I just be lynched tomorrow?

Why would you

Danger!? Luka!

Why would you

Because if I killed a minion it'd be final 3 with Me / Free / Fish

Ok

2:29 p.m.

We should murder you for TMI on whos minion

2:29 p.m.

Ggwp

Danger!? Luka!

We should murder you for TMI on whos minion

Half serioues

Danger!? Luka!

We should murder you for TMI on whos minion

TMI? I'm basically just stating what you all think is the world

2:30 p.m.

Cause obviously Cheetah is going to get killed regardless of who gets executed today

I dont think that's the world at all

2:30 p.m.

I'm laying out something possible

2:30 p.m.

Also, even if Amnesiac does flip

2:30 p.m.

That by no means indicates that you go out tommorow

2:31 p.m.

Even suggesting such a thing is utterly obscene and derangedf

Yeah honestly, I think I mentally made myself believe that

hi

2:34 p.m.

Hi Sprig do you have any insights on who the demon is? Cause I think it's Amne / Fish as the scum pair Or it's Amne / Stella / Zade ook

53R0 (Zero)

Hi Sprig do you have any insights on who the demon is? Cause I think it's Amne / Fish as the scum pair Or it's Amne / Stella / Zade ook

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1294126998419013643

2:36 p.m.

Oh, Sprig

2:36 p.m.

Oops

Hi guys

53R0 (Zero)

Hi Sprig do you have any insights on who the demon is? Cause I think it's Amne / Fish as the scum pair Or it's Amne / Stella / Zade ook

Doesn't matter cuz ur not gonna exe me

2:51 p.m.

I can't be the demon

2:51 p.m.

So

You can

2:54 p.m.

If fish is evil

2:55 p.m.

sup

53R0 (Zero)

If I knew we could of won by killing Kaz why would I ever vote Stella

uhh what? iirc, EOD was kinda dead (I didnt see anyone talkin except for kaz, cheetah and stella)

2:58 p.m.

and everyone was voting stella anyway

2:58 p.m.

so uh

2:59 p.m.

Idk how is this considered as a defens

2:59 p.m.

e

Kazuma

If fish is evil

There's always a world where I'm evil my bro

3:03 p.m.

That's how the game works

Free's Main

and everyone was voting stella anyway

Uh no?

3:05 p.m.

Kaz unvoted, Cheetah voted cause I voted and needed to break the tie

3:05 p.m.

I was on Stella because I thought they were scum

3:06 p.m.

ISO me if you need to for that

3:11 p.m.

Also again, I could of voted with Stella and it would of been an RNG tie

Free's Main

and everyone was voting stella anyway

Im surprised nobody tried voting me, it was 2-1

That_Amnesiac

I can't be the demon

Wow

5:08 p.m.

What a take

Ikr

5:08 p.m.

Slayer is a role

5:09 p.m.

Also I'd like to say

5:09 p.m.

There's always a world where I'm evil

5:09 p.m.

There's always a world where zero is evil

5:09 p.m.

There's always a world where

5:09 p.m.

Anyone is evil

5:09 p.m.

But like

5:09 p.m.

If you only focus on worlds where I'm evil

5:09 p.m.

And keep looking for supplements

5:10 p.m.

Because the original one has flawe

5:10 p.m.

You wont get

5:10 p.m.

Anywhete

5:10 p.m.

Anywhere

Okay Amne, if that's the case then write a world. Because from your POV only Me or Free can be evil. Free can't be the demon. So I'm the only demon canidate in your POV right?

5:12 p.m.

Unless somehow Cheetah is god and managed to decieve us all

That_Amnesiac

Doesn't matter cuz ur not gonna exe me

So who do you wanna execute then?

so like

7:03 p.m.

is this vote on amne assuming im evil and claimed to slayer shoot my demon?

7:03 p.m.

because again, poisoner is very much likely dead and i shot this

Mr. Fish

is this vote on amne assuming im evil and claimed to slayer shoot my demon?

From my POV, yes. Unless I really want to try to build a world where Cheetah isn't drunk at all and Free is actually the demon

7:27 p.m.

Which now that I think about it, is that world possible

isnt the only reason we trust cheeta just reads, too?

7:28 p.m.

could we be getting played like a fiddle?

7:28 p.m.

idk this is kinda unfortunate cause i feel like almost everyone is a demon candidate

I did mention that, but who would cheetah's scum team be??

cheeta lucas stella still works with a cheeta demon world

7:29 p.m.

so i mean

7:29 p.m.

im not pushing that as the world but i dont see why its excluded

My info would be sober in that case

which is fine

7:29 p.m.

literally anyone else couldve been poisoned

7:29 p.m.

hell, for all we know amne was poisoned, he did have an evil in his ping

7:30 p.m.

i couldve been poisoned, wouldve done nothing

Actually Amne being poisoned would make sense, he would of seen two evils in that case

7:30 p.m.

Cause he saw Cheetah / Lucas

luka also couldve been a sunk poison

7:31 p.m.

theres a lot of roles N1 that couldve just been poisoned

Yeah, it's probably best to try not to think about that

7:31 p.m.

All we know is Allan was probably the only one not possibly poisoned n1

well im thinking of it in the context that you being poisoned isnt something we should focus on when so many others couldve been

7:32 p.m.

sorry what was allan's check again?

Free and Sprig

7:32 p.m.

Wait- ugh this is making my head hurt

ok well i was hoping itd be 2 dead players

7:35 p.m.

Yeah, thinking about this whole game made me realize holy shit these balance changes made this game so impossible to figure out

7:37 p.m.

Like I said

8:37 p.m.

What do you accomplish from exing me

8:37 p.m.

If ur just gonna scream that I'm a minion after you kill me

8:37 p.m.

Like I guarantee

8:37 p.m.

I will get damned as a minion after this exe doesn't end the game

8:37 p.m.

OR DOES IT

8:37 p.m.

OR IT MIGHT END THE GAME

8:37 p.m.

BECAUSE

8:37 p.m.

DEAD VOTES DON'T EXIST

8:38 p.m.

so if we misexe today we LOSE

8:38 p.m.

Which means I'm probably getting scum pushes

8:38 p.m.

Pushed

8:38 p.m.

:P

i wasnt really pushing you

8:38 p.m.

i just like mentioning possible worlds

8:38 p.m.

unfortunately i think there is a world for every single person here being a demon

I think no lynching actually is our best play here

8:42 p.m.

Or well, only if we think 2 evils aren't alive

53R0 (Zero)

I think no lynching actually is our best play here

i dont think there is any world where no lynch would be a good play???

8:56 p.m.

why would we not lynch

Mr. Fish

why would we not lynch

The only good reason to not lynch today is to force the demon to kill someone, closing off a world. Though I do actually suspect that 2 evils aren't alive because I admittedly voted Amne to bait evils

9:01 p.m.

even though that seemingly did nothing but make Amne go crybaby mode and say how lynching them will do nothing

Amne, the angry all-caps cheetah is for cheetah ONLY

9:04 p.m.

>:(

That_Amnesiac

What do you accomplish from exing me

We kill a demon canidate?

9:04 p.m.

Why are your defenses actively designed and made to be horrible

That_Amnesiac

Slayer is a role

This is TMI that Fish is real

9:05 p.m.

Or, if it's not

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Amne, the angry all-caps cheetah is for cheetah ONLY

Therefore

It's a plainly bad and wrong take

I shall not believe your all caps antics

That_Amnesiac

If you only focus on worlds where I'm evil

You arent playing the game

9:05 p.m.

You arent trying to solve

9:05 p.m.

You arent doing much of anything

9:05 p.m.

This is you trying to avoid execution

9:05 p.m.

You are a wolf

I want full marks (Cheetah)

I shall not believe your all caps antics

Yeah get em Cheetah! All caps them back? (But fr tho you better be good)

That_Amnesiac

If you only focus on worlds where I'm evil

Uh… maybe because those worlds are ones that MAKE THE MOST SENSE rn?

9:07 p.m.

If we lynch amne and game doesn’t end fish is evil

9:07 p.m.

Cuz fish confirmed amne as not demon

9:07 p.m.

Idk

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Cuz fish confirmed amne as not demon

Yeah that's the big problem we have rn, Fish is obviously defending Amne because they are evil / actual slayer who shot them. Free is mech confirmed not demon by Allan... So, if Amne is evil what exactly would be the reason for SvS day 1 tho...? That's the only issue I'm having rn. Cause thinking about it, if Amne was Demon, would they not of Starpassed to someone else at this point? I mean Amne has been under scrunity this entire game, though I guess considering all the roles that were alive, starpassing could of fucked the entire plan...

9:13 p.m.

When I say starpass I mean killing themselves and one of the minions become demon

53R0 (Zero)

Yeah that's the big problem we have rn, Fish is obviously defending Amne because they are evil / actual slayer who shot them. Free is mech confirmed not demon by Allan... So, if Amne is evil what exactly would be the reason for SvS day 1 tho...? That's the only issue I'm having rn. Cause thinking about it, if Amne was Demon, would they not of Starpassed to someone else at this point? I mean Amne has been under scrunity this entire game, though I guess considering all the roles that were alive, starpassing could of fucked the entire plan...

im obviously defending them???

9:13 p.m.

i wasnt aware of this fact ngl

9:14 p.m.

well actually i thought you meant verbally

9:14 p.m.

yeah i am in the way that i shot them and they are very alive

Yes that's what I meant

i also highly doubt i was poisoned so really i do trust them, there is a low chance im drunk still and id hate to be blindsided by it

Actually wait Fish

NOW im defending amne cause i think its very unlikely my shot didnt go through unless there are the specific worlds of me being drunk or stella being original demon

There's a world where Amne was SW and Stella was demon catsit

yeah you just said that lol

whats up?

9:16 p.m.

oh, lol

9:16 p.m.

yeah i mentioned it previously but i wasnt sure how likely it was

I don't think it's plausible because of Free's indo

i should write this stuff down but was amne in the invest ping? (edited)

Free's invest was: Kaz / Stella / Sprig

9:17 p.m.

Kaz confirmed Sprig so that only leaves Stella really

then free HAS to be evil in an amne/stella SW/demon world

9:17 p.m.

because poison shows the wrong minion type

9:18 p.m.

did empath get a 1 N1?

9:18 p.m.

iirc?

Yes

9:18 p.m.

N0 they got 1

either way i discard that world because lucas would have to be good which i still kinda doubt (maybe im tunneling) and youd be poisoned N0

9:19 p.m.

well actually that world does work

9:19 p.m.

but i dont like it because lucas is good in that world

Mr. Fish

i should write this stuff down but was amne in the invest ping? (edited)

please no edit

which i dont believe to be true

Would Kaz be poisoned N2?

star

please no edit

sorry friend it was a / to a ?

53R0 (Zero)

Would Kaz be poisoned N2?

well of course

Then Cheetah got a 0...

9:20 p.m.

what is going on

cheetah drunk in that world i guess

9:20 p.m.

wait no cause

Zade can't be Virgin if Cheetah is drunk

lucas is good

9:20 p.m.

right

9:20 p.m.

then yeah that world doesnt work

9:21 p.m.

so i think we can rule out amne as a SW, still could be a demon in the hyper specific worlds where im droisoned though but that seems unlikely

I highly doubt you'd ever be poisoned over Cheetah

i kinda disagree

9:21 p.m.

poisoning slayers goes hard

9:22 p.m.

my last alsaahir game i guessed all the evils correctly and it didnt work cause i was poisoned

9:22 p.m.

which is basically the same thing as poisoning a slayer

Ah, I see I always forget bout that

forget about what?

How clutch a Slayer shot can be

i mean, it usually ends the game if it hits

9:24 p.m.

which is why its often a good poion

9:24 p.m.

poison

Cause at least from experience most slayer claims are fake lol

9:24 p.m.

And people just casually always faked shooting

i hate slayers sometimes ngl

9:24 p.m.

i had 2 games in a row end day 1 to a slayer shot

9:24 p.m.

lmfao

9:26 p.m.

but yeah poisoning a slayer can be good (i dont actually think we HAVE a poisoner but just saying) since not only does it save you but it helps confirm you

Danger!? Luka!

This is you trying to avoid execution

No shit good players would too

10:15 p.m.

Do you know what "majority" is

Ok but you aren't trying to like

10:15 p.m.

Find the demon

Seems like a hard concept to understand

That_Amnesiac

Do you know what "majority" is

I would be scared of that too with the whole 0 votes onm me

Danger!? Luka!

Find the demon

Yeah because I'm literally trying to defend myself

Danger!? Luka!

I would be scared of that too with the whole 0 votes onm me

If we exe wrong and it's 2 evils we lose you genius

That_Amnesiac

Yeah because I'm literally trying to defend myself

You can find the demon now

That_Amnesiac

If we exe wrong and it's 2 evils we lose you genius

I dont care, I never denied this

10:16 p.m.

I'm saying that you should be trying to actually solve the game

10:16 p.m.

It should not take that much effort to say

10:16 p.m.

"I'm not demon"

10:16 p.m.

Which, is basically all you said

So free zero fish cheetah and me

Yes

This is interesting

10:16 p.m.

I want to say that free is evil

10:17 p.m.

But also

That_Amnesiac

I want to say that free is evil

Why?

That feels too

10:17 p.m.

Simple

Danger!? Luka!

Why?

I don't think it's cheetah zero etc etc

10:17 p.m.

But like I said

10:17 p.m.

It feels too

10:17 p.m.

Simple

10:18 p.m.

I'm just going to rule out the people I don't think it is first

10:18 p.m.

I don't think it's fish

10:18 p.m.

And that is because

10:19 p.m.

I don't think an evil would actively try to clear a good player in final

That_Amnesiac

I don't think it's cheetah zero etc etc

Why not Zero?

Danger!? Luka!

Why not Zero?

I don't know they just feel arguably better than free

10:19 p.m.

Like

10:20 p.m.

Let me think

That_Amnesiac

I don't know they just feel arguably better than free

Can you articulate it?

Hmm

10:20 p.m.

I'm not great at solving games

10:21 p.m.

Scratch that

10:21 p.m.

Good

10:21 p.m.

I'm not good

10:21 p.m.

At all

That_Amnesiac

If we exe wrong and it's 2 evils we lose you genius

These things were kinda rude to me for no reason why, to my knowledge I was asking reasonable questions and that's pretty towny of you

That_Amnesiac

At all

You're okay

10:21 p.m.

I'm not either

10:21 p.m.

Let's be bad together

Danger!? Luka!

These things were kinda rude to me for no reason why, to my knowledge I was asking reasonable questions and that's pretty towny of you

I'm just like

10:21 p.m.

I'm sorry just like I don't feel great today

10:21 p.m.

Like yesterday I was in a lot of pain today I feel sick

10:21 p.m.

It's not fun

10:22 p.m.

Any way off topic

10:22 p.m.

Cheetah and fish fmpov can't be evil

That_Amnesiac

Like yesterday I was in a lot of pain today I feel sick

Hope you feel better soon ;-;

Which leaves zero or free

That_Amnesiac

I'm sorry just like I don't feel great today

You're okay

Cheetah is either drunk or empath

10:23 p.m.

I don't think fish would, being evil, clear an evil going into final

10:23 p.m.

Which leaves zero and free

10:23 p.m.

I'm not sure between those two

10:23 p.m.

I could make cases for both

10:23 p.m.

Being good

actually I believe we have everyone's pov's at this point correct? (Alive anyways) Why don't we go over every single POV?

Cuz with free

That might show a discrepancy

Cheetah had sober 1s and the sw ping is on kaz

10:24 p.m.

That's in worlds where free is goid

10:24 p.m.

But also in pretty sure

53R0 (Zero)

actually I believe we have everyone's pov's at this point correct? (Alive anyways) Why don't we go over every single POV?

I cant tell if this is a wolfy bad idea or a towny bad idea

Nobody thinks that Stella ISN'T the sw

Honestly, a conclusion I've come to over the last few days: I have about zero clue how to play discord mafia as town

10:25 p.m.

I think that I'm good at forum mafia, my reads are very accurate I don't think the same thing can be said for discord mafia

And in worlds where zero is good it is just free

10:25 p.m.

Or there's a world where they're both evil probably

10:26 p.m.

So free being evil and zero being good points to

Danger!? Luka!

I cant tell if this is a wolfy bad idea or a towny bad idea

Why it's a bad idea exactly? I don't see why summarizing everyone's POV a bad thing?

53R0 (Zero)

Why it's a bad idea exactly? I don't see why summarizing everyone's POV a bad thing?

We only have so much time left in the day

10:27 p.m.

And that basically does nothing

10:27 p.m.

When half of these players arent playing

10:28 p.m.

I hate to doomer but this feels like a town loss lol

10:28 p.m.

Nobody has any sense of direction

I do

Danger!? Luka!

Nobody has any sense of direction

There's just to many possibilities lol

Well in worlds where I'm evil

10:28 p.m.

BUT

Yeah, if town loses this don't feel that bad

10:28 p.m.

This game is wolf sided asf

In worlds where I'm good

Danger!? Luka!

This game is wolf sided asf

Also town kinda threw D1 by mass claiming

We have a pseudo-sage ping

But let's ignore that part

10:29 p.m.

And just blame the setup

YES

10:29 p.m.

BY THE WAY

10:29 p.m.

DON'T DO THAT

10:29 p.m.

IF YOU PLAY ACTUAL CLOCKTOWER

10:29 p.m.

PLEASE DON'T DO THAT

You shouldnt have claimed either dummy (/lh)

Danger!? Luka!

You shouldnt have claimed either dummy (/lh)

yahhhh but that's besides the point smh

Don't worry I'll host discord Mafia Sects and Violets and everyone will go insane lol

SNV is the best b3

@Lunexia FTR, I've trashed a lot on your setup but I think that it's a very cool idea and you did execute some things quite well. It's a semi-engaging game, but I do think that it does have problems (obviously) lol

That_Amnesiac

SNV is the best b3

Agree

10:31 p.m.

It feels the most fun

Ok anyway I'd say zero or free are my choices

10:31 p.m.

But like

10:31 p.m.

If fish is evil

10:31 p.m.

They played well

Danger!? Luka!

Also town kinda threw D1 by mass claiming

i woke up after it all happened too like

10:31 p.m.

it was so funny

But regardless, I don't care if this makes Amne vote me or not. But Amne please remember in a Free evil world Allan would of had to been poisoned. That is quite literally the only thing Free has going for them lol

cause i woke up and everyone had claimed

Based on my own information and opinions I can make an educated guess that one of zero or free is evil

53R0 (Zero)

But regardless, I don't care if this makes Amne vote me or not. But Amne please remember in a Free evil world Allan would of had to been poisoned. That is quite literally the only thing Free has going for them lol

I forgot what Allan was claiming again

53R0 (Zero)

But regardless, I don't care if this makes Amne vote me or not. But Amne please remember in a Free evil world Allan would of had to been poisoned. That is quite literally the only thing Free has going for them lol

Fake

10:32 p.m.

Not true

That_Amnesiac

Ok anyway I'd say zero or free are my choices

Why Zero

53R0 (Zero)

But regardless, I don't care if this makes Amne vote me or not. But Amne please remember in a Free evil world Allan would of had to been poisoned. That is quite literally the only thing Free has going for them lol

They also have Kaz sw cheetah true 1 I believe

i feel like there is a possible world for every single living person right now

Danger!? Luka!

Why Zero

It's less why zero and why not zero

Danger!? Luka!

Not true

How is that not true? Allan saw Free and Sprig as not Demon

That_Amnesiac

It's less why zero and why not zero

And the why not zero doesn't exist

10:33 p.m.

And the why not free is

10:33 p.m.

Small

53R0 (Zero)

How is that not true? Allan saw Free and Sprig as not Demon

Read scarlet women

10:33 p.m.

Okay guys let's vote Free

... Did SW change something and I never realized it

It's a coinflip

53R0 (Zero)

... Did SW change something and I never realized it

I believe they're saying free is the sw

Oh.

You know, that could explain a lot.

10:35 p.m.

If Free was the SW they would have a free bluff nobody can debunk

10:35 p.m.

Then did we kill the Demon?

I'd say it's free or zero If zero is evil, Kaz and Lucas are the evil team If free is evil, the evil team is Lucas and some chump who flew under the radar idk

Danger!? Luka!

@Lunexia FTR, I've trashed a lot on your setup but I think that it's a very cool idea and you did execute some things quite well. It's a semi-engaging game, but I do think that it does have problems (obviously) lol

Okay another fucking huge problem with this setup

10:37 p.m.

Dead players arent prodded

10:37 p.m.

Literally goes againts the idea of the game that Dead players can just AFK

10:37 p.m.

They are still apart of it

10:37 p.m.

Do not let them sit their and do nothing

10:37 p.m.

It is frustrating, annoying, and ruins the experience of everybody else

I'd say Lucas is evil because they probably misread the virgin ability, and didn't think that people would want to get exed (he didn't read ysks.)

Danger!? Luka!

They are still apart of it

They also don't have votes

That_Amnesiac

They also don't have votes

Theyre still apart of the game

10:37 p.m.

They can still solve

That_Amnesiac

They also don't have votes

(Arguably one of the most important things in clocktower)

Dead players without dead votes have and do carry games

Y'all if we win this I am wearing this on my best social deduction games to exist

10:38 p.m.

What if we just lie and say they do get prodded

10:38 p.m.

Would that work

10:38 p.m.

It'd work on like 1 or 2 right tho

That_Amnesiac

I'd say Lucas is evil because they probably misread the virgin ability, and didn't think that people would want to get exed (he didn't read ysks.)

Actually I just thought of something really dumb. If Kaz Evil, did they star Pass

To be honest I do see that

Cause if Kaz star passed to Free that solves a lot

I see Kaz star passing worlds

That_Amnesiac

Y'all if we win this I am wearing this on my best social deduction games to exist

If we win this I'll change my nick to "very bad at mafia wtf!!!"

That_Amnesiac

I see Kaz star passing worlds

I dont

Free poisoner Lucas sw?

I think Stella is locked evil

10:40 p.m.

And I dont think that Stella evil works with Kazuma

But if Free is evil, why is Stella evil?

10:40 p.m.

That_Amnesiac

Free poisoner Lucas sw?

This is why he would starpass, because the sw is dead

10:41 p.m.

Kaz as demon who star passes because they don't have an alive sw and are being heavily sussed

10:41 p.m.

But also

53R0 (Zero)

But if Free is evil, why is Stella evil?

If Stella is town they just hard pushed Kazuma, and then dropped off of the face of the earth when they died

Why would free put their own demon in the invest pings

Amnesiac / Cheetah probably never flip evil here

10:41 p.m.

Lucas / Stella are both evil

10:41 p.m.

Theirs one more

10:41 p.m.

GL

Danger!? Luka!

If Stella is town they just hard pushed Kazuma, and then dropped off of the face of the earth when they died

Yeah.. that yeah I get that

Danger!? Luka!

If Stella is town they just hard pushed Kazuma, and then dropped off of the face of the earth when they died

Gameplay that makes me utterly baffled

10:41 p.m.

With all due respect towards her she isn't a bad player idt

10:41 p.m.

That does not come from a town

10:41 p.m.

Her reasonings just, didnt exist at all either in hindsight

10:41 p.m.

The fact that I let that slide is a slight on my brain

Hold on let me get my

10:42 p.m.

Reading comprehension

If it's Lucas / Stella + someone else then honestly we have a mislynch still

Danger!? Luka!

Amnesiac / Cheetah probably never flip evil here

If Amnesiac is evil I'm genuinly gonna cry

10:43 p.m.

Crocodile tears

So if it comes to it, I think voting between myself and free is our best bet.

I'm thinking

10:44 p.m.

Ok so who do we think the evil team is with zero

I'd have to be evil with Kaz

lucas kaz, in that world, IMO

Zero evil means the chef number is probably a 1 or 2 no?

10:45 p.m.

I do see a way for the demon giving true info to make sense

zero evil means the chef number is LIKELY faked but not guaranteed, and i think i feel comfortable slotting lucas/kaz into that world, if zero were assumed evil

So in free evil worlds

10:45 p.m.

Stuff that doesn't make sense is

Mr. Fish

zero evil means the chef number is LIKELY faked but not guaranteed, and i think i feel comfortable slotting lucas/kaz into that world, if zero were assumed evil

The only problem I have is why would Kaz out poisoner exists either way?

That_Amnesiac

Stuff that doesn't make sense is

Free's ping has Kaz??? If free is sw why would Kaz starpass

They could of said Lucas is Virgin and killed Amne easily

In zero evil worlds

53R0 (Zero)

The only problem I have is why would Kaz out poisoner exists either way?

town cred? I dunno

10:46 p.m.

youre right though

That_Amnesiac

In zero evil worlds

Why is the chef number true

10:46 p.m.

And also

it could be true and its zero/stella/lucas

That_Amnesiac

Why is the chef number true

My number has to be drunk / poisoned

That_Amnesiac

And also

Idk can't think

At least from my POV it is

In worlds where you're evil you are purposely giving true info out as evil

10:47 p.m.

Which doesn't sit right with me

10:47 p.m.

But also if free is evil

10:47 p.m.

Why the fuck are they putting the demon in an invest ping

uh, based?

10:48 p.m.

i dont think free/zero are a pair ill say that lol

Mr. Fish

i dont think free/zero are a pair ill say that lol

Thats probably true

10:48 p.m.

It'd be Lucas free zero

I'm only realistically paired with Kaz in any evil worlds

i mean

53R0 (Zero)

I'd have to be evil with Kaz

Why do you people do this

10:49 p.m.

You just lie about mech

10:49 p.m.

In order to seem resy

10:49 p.m.

Their is nothing, nada, pairing you with Kazuma

That_Amnesiac

It'd be Lucas free zero

Which solves

10:49 p.m.

The chef number I suppose

Their can be 50 worlds in which Zero is evil

But also who's the demon

Does it matter

10:50 p.m.

Lets just murder everybody

That's true

remember earlier i made a joke about lucas passing to SW as the first death?

10:50 p.m.

because thatd be really fucking funny

I mean like

that guy is in another server im in that the game just ended btw

10:50 p.m.

am i allowed to like.. talk about it?

I think so if you like clearly state that it is from that

Mr. Fish

remember earlier i made a joke about lucas passing to SW as the first death?

Wait, considering Lucas didn't want to die at all actually. That joke might uh of happened

Don't trust me tho

10:51 p.m.

I don't think Lucas

10:51 p.m.

Understood

10:51 p.m.

The virgin role

i dont think he understood virgin which is why i think its unironically possible he couldve been demon]

I think he understands the ability

10:51 p.m.

But not like it's place in the game

in the other server, where the game ended, he publicly claimed TI in a list that had one TI, day 1

and was evil???

10:52 p.m.

i think he just... claims

Mr. Fish

that guy is in another server im in that the game just ended btw

If the game ended

10:52 p.m.

Yes

well yeah it has ended

You can yeah

I think he surface level skimmed

and yeah he kinda made a nonsensicle claim there

10:52 p.m.

im fairly certain he doesnt think much of his claims

Mr. Fish

in the other server, where the game ended, he publicly claimed TI in a list that had one TI, day 1

and was evil???

Did he act really annoying and abrassive

10:52 p.m.

In that game

Danger!? Luka!

Did he act really annoying and abrassive

uh i wasnt paying that much attention that game ngl

Mr. Fish

uh i wasnt paying that much attention that game ngl

Can you just ctrl f his name for me

10:53 p.m.

Ty <3

i didnt see anything as bad as here for sure though

10:53 p.m.

yeah sure

That_Amnesiac

I think he surface level skimmed

Read the virgin ability

10:53 p.m.

Which reads

Also, just for post game: Even if we lose this all of my town reads were correct so curtain

So question, if Lucas was the original demon and passed to SW. Would that SW just so happen to be Free with Stella as the poisoner then? thinky

Outsiders

Virgin

The first time you would die to being voted out by majority, the player hammering you will die instead, if that player has a Town role.
- If your ability kills someone, then all votes on you will be reset and the day continues (if necessary, with an extention to the day timer equivalent to how long the players thought the day had ended).
- If the hammering player is not a Town role, you die.
- If you were poisoned during the previous night, then your ability will not activate and you will die when hammered.

10:54 p.m.

And I think he read that

10:54 p.m.

And said

10:54 p.m.

Hmm

10:54 p.m.

I don't think I'll get hammered if I claim this

10:54 p.m.

Why would a townsfolk want to get Hammered? That doesn't make sense

10:54 p.m.

And decided on that claim because of that

10:54 p.m.

Not knowing that some roles would like to actually be confirmed in such a way

Danger!? Luka!

Can you just ctrl f his name for me

nah he didnt seem that abrasive at all, also unrelated but he took my TI counterclaim at face value and wanted to kill me which is funny cause i was an RK type role

Mr. Fish

nah he didnt seem that abrasive at all, also unrelated but he took my TI counterclaim at face value and wanted to kill me which is funny cause i was an RK type role

was he town

10:55 p.m.

or evil

nah

10:55 p.m.

evil

This game should be considered a NC for #🏆hall-of-fame

10:55 p.m.

Deleting Lucas's logs is pretty huge

(Oh yeah, that's uh WATEFAK

)

what does NC mean :3

No contest

Oh wait they arent deleted ok

New candidate or not candidate

just weird

One of the 2

10:56 p.m.

Oh

10:56 p.m.

Neither

573988752700211211

That's what happens if u get banned I'm p sure

Lucas's logs just can't be searched easily

10:56 p.m.

Due to ban

It shows like your user tag

That_Amnesiac

That's what happens if u get banned I'm p sure

Its optimal

10:56 p.m.

Optional

10:56 p.m.

Lune forgot to untoggle the setting

Imagine

10:57 p.m.

I'd say free is probably my candidate but it could sway to zero

I'm just going to park that vote for now.

@Mr. Fish Can you compare: lucas_lin_703

10:58 p.m.

's logs

10:58 p.m.

To their ones in the other server

10:59 p.m.

What do they do the same, what do they do different?

Danger!? Luka!

@Mr. Fish Can you compare: lucas_lin_703

im sorry i kinda just got revived in a game im playing so

10:59 p.m.

im a bit busy

10:59 p.m.

but i skimmed through 6 pages and i didnt see any abrasiveness

I think it's safe to say free and zero voting each other probably won't end the game

Mr. Fish

but i skimmed through 6 pages and i didnt see any abrasiveness

What about compared to this game?

Mr. Fish

im sorry i kinda just got revived in a game im playing so

Not forgiven

10:59 p.m.

Blocked

10:59 p.m.

I hate you

10:59 p.m.

Banned

its so over

11:00 p.m.

but uh

11:00 p.m.

i mean

11:00 p.m.

the abrasiveness was different lol

11:02 p.m.

I wanna cry

11:02 p.m.

@Ngekop I blame you, why didnt you choose to join this game I couldve just sheeped you

That_Amnesiac

I think it's safe to say free and zero voting each other probably won't end the game

Yeah no, this is just going to be a thunderdome ATP unfortunately

11:03 p.m.

11:04 p.m.

Let me think... Cheetah's info is 1 0 0 1 If Cheetah was poisoned n1 and then sober... Free would have to be evil.

11:05 p.m.

I mean n0* sorry

11:06 p.m.

Allan's pings were correct as Free was SW, Kaz's info would of been correct because poisoner died d1

11:08 p.m.

So, at least by that line of logic, Free is evil by proxy of Stella dying at F6 as demon by me and Cheetah voting for them. Meaning Fish's slayer shot was a dud

11:09 p.m.

I would be the drunk in this case with a 0

11:11 p.m.

Is this world viable? thinky

53R0 (Zero)

Is this world viable? thinky

Viable but I don’t know how likely compared with the amne fish one

@Ngekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1289642882231435354/1294497105221779498 I need a good player to carry me. I know you cant do it this game but it makes me sad, and I think that if you were here I would be happy. So far, all of my town reads have been correct that flipped (yay, I'm so good at town reads) but it feels like the evils this game are slippery and that's frustrating me. I think that it's most likely just Free as the last, Zero / Amnesiac are both hella towny and Fish is kinda towny? But also like, I'm not sure. I think that something I've discovered over the last few days is that I'm better at forum mafia than I am at discord mafia. Discord mafia kinda feels like an entirely different game to FM. FM I just look at a post and go "wow that's a towner" but DM it's like "all of these people are equally wolfy wtf." I think that it's Free though. I could be wrong, I think I might be. I dont know Also, don't respond till post since this is an ongoing game (but please do respond post, I wanna hear your thoughts) MenheraWink2

11:13 p.m.

Rude, smh.. Okay, I will

It COULD be free

11:14 p.m.

I GENUINELY think I was just poisoned n0

If it's Fish / Amne as you say Cheetah, is Stella actually Ravenkeeper in your POV?

53R0 (Zero)

If it's Fish / Amne as you say Cheetah, is Stella actually Ravenkeeper in your POV?

No

11:15 p.m.

But rn I think

11:15 p.m.

Free Lucas zade

11:15 p.m.

Is more likely than fish amne Stella

Hello

11:15 p.m.

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Free Lucas zade

So who's the outsider

Me

And lucas/zade are the same

Free's Main

And lucas/zade are the same

Oh shit right

just woke up uh

That would be stella then

53R0 (Zero)

Me

It’s either you’re an alcoholic or I’m an alcoholic

Danger!? Luka!

@Ngekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1289642882231435354/1294497105221779498 I need a good player to carry me. I know you cant do it this game but it makes me sad, and I think that if you were here I would be happy. So far, all of my town reads have been correct that flipped (yay, I'm so good at town reads) but it feels like the evils this game are slippery and that's frustrating me. I think that it's most likely just Free as the last, Zero / Amnesiac are both hella towny and Fish is kinda towny? But also like, I'm not sure. I think that something I've discovered over the last few days is that I'm better at forum mafia than I am at discord mafia. Discord mafia kinda feels like an entirely different game to FM. FM I just look at a post and go "wow that's a towner" but DM it's like "all of these people are equally wolfy wtf." I think that it's Free though. I could be wrong, I think I might be. I dont know Also, don't respond till post since this is an ongoing game (but please do respond post, I wanna hear your thoughts) MenheraWink2

I want full marks (Cheetah)

It’s either you’re an alcoholic or I’m an alcoholic

If you're the alcoholic, your info is RNG based and I really don't want to believe that

You're joking right?

Free's Main

You're joking right?

Who else is it

Danger!? Luka!

Who else is it

How did you conclude that I am a minion

11:18 p.m.

Who else is it

Danger!? Luka!

Who else is it

Idk Nothing make sense if we consider Lucas as virgin

11:19 p.m.

cuz of n1

Ok so if you dont know

11:19 p.m.

How do you expect me to know

Danger!? Luka!

How do you expect me to know

? Cuz you have played botc before?

11:20 p.m.

ehh

Free's Main

? Cuz you have played botc before?

Yes, I have

Where is this coming from

I have not played whatever this game is

11:20 p.m.

I have played BOTC

Sick

That_Amnesiac

It'd be Lucas free zero

Uh

11:23 p.m.

Sure I asked Lucas to claim Virgin (I was the first person to ask him to claim e) And Stella is totally acting towny

11:23 p.m.

Glad half of this game collectively agreed to put zero effort whatsoever into finding the evils until prodded that's pretty nice

11:24 p.m.

(Zero my savoir)

11:25 p.m.

Let's just kill Free as a policy and if they're town whatever, who cares They aren't playing the game anyways

?

Who is eivl

I just woke up ffs

You have had over 24 hours

Danger!? Luka!

You have had over 24 hours

yeah and? I did state my thoughts

Which does not include whos evil

idt everyone else even did that

Cheetah I have my own problem with, but I think they're town Amnesiac has stated who's evil Zero has stated who's evil @Mr. Fish Who's evil btw

11:26 p.m.

Fish has stated more than you I think though

Danger!? Luka!

Cheetah I have my own problem with, but I think they're town Amnesiac has stated who's evil Zero has stated who's evil @Mr. Fish Who's evil btw

Did they all give a reasonable explanation?

Yup And frankly, does it even fucking matter?

11:28 p.m.

Wow, I'm doing this thing wrong but others are too!!!

11:28 p.m.

God sorry I'm in a miserable mood rn

11:28 p.m.

Probably shouldnt let that import over here

11:28 p.m.

I'll see you tmr

Nah I was just surprised

11:30 p.m.

I'll just back read for now ig

Danger!? Luka!

(Zero my savoir)

You're welcome?

53R0 (Zero)

You're welcome?

You're the only player actually solving

11:32 p.m.

Regardless of your alignment

11:32 p.m.

Without me trying to force it out of you

You're welcome then

Danger!? Luka!

Which does not include whos evil

well I did state it somewhat (im just assuming that you didnt back read) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1294204760387354654

I mean

11:37 p.m.

You didnt

11:37 p.m.

Even in the message you linked

11:38 p.m.

You asked a rheotorical question that doesnt even insinuate who you think is evil

Mr. Fish

i dont think he understood virgin which is why i think its unironically possible he couldve been demon]

well mafia had whole 24 hrs to prepare in advance uk'

Danger!? Luka!

You asked a rheotorical question that doesnt even insinuate who you think is evil

uh because my evil team doesnt make sense mechanically..

11:41 p.m.

ie stella/amne/zero

Free's Main

uh because my evil team doesnt make sense mechanically..

Bestie

11:42 p.m.

Do you know what Id say to that

what

11:45 p.m.

I refuse to believe that mafia would be that dumb to ask one of their own teammates to claim virgin

‍♂️

Danger!? Luka!

@Ngekop https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1289642882231435354/1294497105221779498 I need a good player to carry me. I know you cant do it this game but it makes me sad, and I think that if you were here I would be happy. So far, all of my town reads have been correct that flipped (yay, I'm so good at town reads) but it feels like the evils this game are slippery and that's frustrating me. I think that it's most likely just Free as the last, Zero / Amnesiac are both hella towny and Fish is kinda towny? But also like, I'm not sure. I think that something I've discovered over the last few days is that I'm better at forum mafia than I am at discord mafia. Discord mafia kinda feels like an entirely different game to FM. FM I just look at a post and go "wow that's a towner" but DM it's like "all of these people are equally wolfy wtf." I think that it's Free though. I could be wrong, I think I might be. I dont know Also, don't respond till post since this is an ongoing game (but please do respond post, I wanna hear your thoughts) MenheraWink2

going with reads eh

Free's Main

I refuse to believe that mafia would be that dumb to ask one of their own teammates to claim virgin

‍♂️

then you cant blame me for doing this

Free's Main

I refuse to believe that mafia would be that dumb to ask one of their own teammates to claim virgin

‍♂️

alr lets assume lucas is poisoner'

11:50 p.m.

then stella is sw fmpov

11:51 p.m.

(idk why im doing this again but ugh)

11:52 p.m.

and yeah, amne and fish arent paired (due to fish suggesting amne to hammer the supposed "virgin" d1)

11:52 p.m.

and also lucas/amne being paired doesnt make sense

Free's Main

I refuse to believe that mafia would be that dumb to ask one of their own teammates to claim virgin

‍♂️

Why are you assuming that happened

11:52 p.m.

Cant Lucas have gone rogue lol

11:52 p.m.

Also, mafia only gets 3 bluffs

Danger!? Luka!

Also, mafia only gets 3 bluffs

2?

Spy

11:53 p.m.

2 though true

11:53 p.m.

Not exactly relevant

Danger!? Luka!

Cant Lucas have gone rogue lol

uhh lucas was pretty chill when I asked him to claim

I mean not really what I'm saying but ok

just think this through what kind of evil would outright claim virgin at the start

11:58 p.m.

also if you're sure bout lucas being poisoner

11:59 p.m.

then 2 evils died fmpov (stella being sw)

12:00 a.m.

So if I get lynched tday, the game continues (Ion think this is the case tho)

12:00 a.m.

and if lucas is virgin then we lose

12:00 a.m.

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I'm so confused how is any of this relevant

12:01 a.m.

Like

12:02 a.m.

You think Lucas is evil too didnt you lol

Danger!? Luka!

You think Lucas is evil too didnt you lol

uh

12:02 a.m.

I dont

Eugh lmfao

Free's Main

just think this through what kind of evil would outright claim virgin at the start

The answer to all of this is pretty clear cut: they arent good at the game

Free's Main

So if I get lynched tday, the game continues (Ion think this is the case tho)

im saying if the game ends then lucas is virgin (and its yall fault anyway)

‍♂️

fyi if the team we zero stella they couldve won yday

Free's Main

im saying if the game ends then lucas is virgin (and its yall fault anyway)

‍♂️

You share the blame

12:03 a.m.

Thats like me saying if we lose this isnt my fault since I couldnt vote

12:04 a.m.

The blame is shared among all townies

12:04 a.m.

That's how mafia works

Danger!? Luka!

You share the blame

yeah but you conclude that im evil based on reads?

12:04 a.m.

really?

12:04 a.m.

in a botc?

Free's Main

yeah but you conclude that im evil based on reads?

1. Your team is mechanically impossible. You have yet to vote anybody or propose a realistic team. 2. It being BOTC doesnt matter, since this isnt BOTC. It's based off of it with 50 huge gameplay changed.

Danger!? Luka!

1. Your team is mechanically impossible. You have yet to vote anybody or propose a realistic team. 2. It being BOTC doesnt matter, since this isnt BOTC. It's based off of it with 50 huge gameplay changed.

If you really want me to create an evil team which makes sense mechanically then I can do it uk (but I wont be leaning on it)

What do you plan to do instrad

12:06 a.m.

instead

12:06 a.m.

Look pretty sit their and complain when anybody calls you evil

So you cant solve with lucas being virgin right?

I can and I have I just dont think thats realistic

Danger!? Luka!

Look pretty sit their and complain when anybody calls you evil

yeah sure buddy you have been foreshadowing me since I arrived

Their are solves but it requires v specific poisoning

which accomplishes nothing

Free's Main

yeah sure buddy you have been foreshadowing me since I arrived

Do you know what foreshadowing means first off

12:08 a.m.

2nd off I dont care, thats what youre doing

Danger!? Luka!

2nd off I dont care, thats what youre doing

Like

12:09 a.m.

Im just askign for you to like

12:09 a.m.

Give a posdible tram

12:09 a.m.

I dont think thats to much to ask for

Danger!? Luka!

Give a posdible tram

even if I dont actually believe it?

12:09 a.m.

ugh

Free's Main

even if I dont actually believe it?

What do you want to do instead??? Genuine question

12:09 a.m.

Its not like you believe your mech impossible team anyways

Danger!? Luka!

What do you want to do instead??? Genuine question

This is actually super annoying

12:10 a.m.

Yes????

12:10 a.m.

Thats the point of mafia????????

12:10 a.m.

If it's d1 or d2 sure you can say "I don't know"

12:10 a.m.

But like

12:10 a.m.

I am just asking for a solve

All Luka wants is explain why your the world you believe

12:11 a.m.

I worded that horribly

53R0 (Zero)

All Luka wants is explain why your the world you believe

No I want a world that they believe in

12:12 a.m.

Explaining it can come later

Danger!? Luka!

No I want a world that they believe in

Or even

12:12 a.m.

Who they dont think it is!

12:12 a.m.

Maybe some ISOs!

12:12 a.m.

Just anythign in the way of progress

Danger!? Luka!

I am just asking for a solve

uh sure lucas - poisoner, cheetah - drunk stella - sw and let's believe fish's info bout amne not being demon so yeah the last one is zero (stella and zero did look like they were paired)

12:15 a.m.

Free's Main

uh sure lucas - poisoner, cheetah - drunk stella - sw and let's believe fish's info bout amne not being demon so yeah the last one is zero (stella and zero did look like they were paired)

+ all those msgs bout how zero said they could've lynched kaz instead of stella seemed fake af

12:15 a.m.

‍♂️

Zero Free probably just cross atp

12:18 a.m.

Zero is already coting you

for what reason tho?

Ill check back up on this in the mornign when im lees emotionally volitaile

Free's Main

for what reason tho?

cuz im possible sw?

Free's Main

for what reason tho?

poe iirc but ask them and argue @53R0 (Zero)

12:18 a.m.

Gets discussion going which this game is sorely lacking in

12:18 a.m.

Mmmk, gn now

Free's Main

cuz im possible sw?

I wrote an entire world let me grab it

12:26 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1294496003738701938

12:27 a.m.

Also can someone please explain to me, why me and Stella are paired when I literally killed her catsit

53R0 (Zero)

So, at least by that line of logic, Free is evil by proxy of Stella dying at F6 as demon by me and Cheetah voting for them. Meaning Fish's slayer shot was a dud

By this line of logic, you're saying that I listed my own demon in my invest pings

12:32 a.m.

Free's Main

By this line of logic, you're saying that I listed my own demon in my invest pings

Yeah, I mean it's ballsy, but honestly it's not crazy either

53R0 (Zero)

Also can someone please explain to me, why me and Stella are paired when I literally killed her catsit

Well, is this ur only defense?

Ofc it's not

12:34 a.m.

I'm actually trying to solve the fucking game

12:34 a.m.

I might be doing it wrong, but at least I'm trying

Then you're implying that I'm not trying Thats awful

53R0 (Zero)

I might be doing it wrong, but at least I'm trying

Uh that's really no5 a defense (Evils can do that too yk)

12:37 a.m.

and I'm only evil if you're drunk

Free's Main

and I'm only evil if you're drunk

fypov

12:38 a.m.

Since yall concluded Lucas to be poisoner

12:38 a.m.

So I shall do the same

I've mentioned this before but nothing mechanically has touched me at all, no checks, no shots, nothing. I have reason to believe I am the drunk, because Amne and Fish just don't make sense. I do not believe that both can be evil

12:39 a.m.

2 evils are in most cases dead. Since Fish is clearing Amne, I want to assume they are telling the truth.

zzzz

12:40 a.m.

So you're just assuming smth and then conclude that the other case must be true (that's why you're voting me even though you dk how many evils are alive at this point)

I've conculed that there's only 1 evil alive cause every alive player has been around and there has not been a quick lynch

Well sure

12:42 a.m.

It doesn't matter if you're evil though

12:42 a.m.

But fair fmpov

12:42 a.m.

Fypov*

Free's Main

It doesn't matter if you're evil though

Yeah if I'm evil with a scum partner alive then yeah that says nothing

12:44 a.m.

But ultimately, Free. Why did you clear Fish again?

That_Amnesiac

Why the fuck are they putting the demon in an invest ping

Oh lmao

53R0 (Zero)

But ultimately, Free. Why did you clear Fish again?

Uh because of d1 (didn't look like fish and Lucas were paired)

12:46 a.m.

Fish was actively asking Lucas to lynched

I was also asking Lucas to die

He suggested it first

(hell I offered to be hammered)

12:46 a.m.

Or well, be the one to hammer

53R0 (Zero)

(hell I offered to be hammered)

Well idk why would you ignore empath's result at that timd

12:48 a.m.

cuz making amne lynch Lucas is logically right

Free's Main

Well idk why would you ignore empath's result at that timd

Because from experience empath getting a second check is always better than lynching on a possible poison / drunk

Oh k

Which at least from my POV cleared Amne once I realized it

uh huh

Okay so sure Fish and Lucas aren't paired, Amne is a wild card from your POV and I actively was trying to hinder town by offering to be killed instead (which as demon would be dumb regardless, since I would of known Lucas was Poisoner) and Undertaker was already claimed atp

And I was tryna save Kaz when you guys(amne,Stella,zero) were voting Kaz so that's a plus from me (really isn't a defense but kinda similar to urs ig?)

Granted, we both defended Kaz at different points

12:55 a.m.

I just hopped on a world that was really dumb

12:55 a.m.

In retrospect*

There's a few solid things that I think are fine to say

12:56 a.m.

The minions are sw and poisoner

Yep

Correct

If zero is evil they are with Kaz

12:56 a.m.

And there's probably more but I'm too tiree

That_Amnesiac

If zero is evil they are with Kaz

?

12:56 a.m.

Please do explain that

With cheetahs info

12:56 a.m.

And your info

12:56 a.m.

It points to kaz

That_Amnesiac

With cheetahs info

Why can't cheetah be drunk

That_Amnesiac

And your info

I thought we decided that Stella is sw

Free's Main

I thought we decided that Stella is sw

It's a different world

So fmpov there is exactly 2 possibilities

12:57 a.m.

Zero is evil

12:57 a.m.

Or free is evil

12:58 a.m.

In the world where zero is evil the evil team is Lucas, Kaz, and obviously zero

53R0 (Zero)

It's a different world

Uh but you can be evil with Stella too ( also you voting Stella isn't really defense)

In the world where it's free it's Lucas free and Kaz, because the drunk is located on zero

That_Amnesiac

In the world where it's free it's Lucas free and Kaz, because the drunk is located on zero

A flaw with that is free puttinf Kaz in the info

That_Amnesiac

In the world where zero is evil the evil team is Lucas, Kaz, and obviously zero

That_Amnesiac

In the world where zero is evil the evil team is Lucas, Kaz, and obviously zero

A flaw with this

12:59 a.m.

Is why would zero give true info

And why did Kaz die at night

1:00 a.m.

If not Demon

I don't have much to go on other than a coinflip here but also Kaz star passing to free works so

That_Amnesiac

In the world where it's free it's Lucas free and Kaz, because the drunk is located on zero

Zero being drunk is the only thing that says I'm evil and he's safe (also he suggested it to frame me ofc)

There's flaws in both of the worlds but also they're pretty much the only worlds

1:02 a.m.

To me at elast

1:02 a.m.

Leady

1:02 a.m.

LEAST

No it isn't You never considered Stella go be sw wtf

1:03 a.m.

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1294489796017655862

1:03 a.m.

I'm psure Stella is scum

It's still either you or zero

Yeah Stella is scum

1:03 a.m.

From social reads mostly

So that means scum wants us to think that Stella is scum then?

That_Amnesiac

It's still either you or zero

Yeah but ur list includes Kaz and not Stella FacepalmLmao

there has to be a scum in one of you 2 and you agree that Stella is evio

1:03 a.m.

Evil

Correct

53R0 (Zero)

From social reads mostly

And its ideal for evil to remain quiet after that so yeah

Or well, I guess there's also Fish being silly and somehow making me and Free thunderdome

I mean still

1:04 a.m.

I don't think as evil

1:04 a.m.

You go into a f5

1:05 a.m.

With the intention of hard clearing a good player

1:05 a.m.

Or at least

1:05 a.m.

Removing them from the execution pool

True enough, it would be crazy if that was the game plan tho

Like to me it's zero free or fish

1:06 a.m.

And I trust fish for the most part

1:06 a.m.

So it's a coinflip for me

I want to believe fish from social reads mostly

At worst

Well, if there's only 1 evil left presumably. Then we kill either Free or myself then continue on.

I think there's only one evil left

1:08 a.m.

That seems logical to me

Cause Tommorow (in game) will most likely be Me / Free / Amne / Fish

1:09 a.m.

Me or Fish I mean*

1:09 a.m.

Free fuck I can't type

1:09 a.m.

It would be (Me or Free) / Amne / Fish

1:09 a.m.

There

I mean

1:10 a.m.

They kill one of me fish or cheetah

1:10 a.m.

That is what the evil team will do

Cheetah is most likely the kill, if Cheetah isn't dead that is highly sus

If cheetah doesn't die I think we exe cheetah tmr actually

1:11 a.m.

If they don't die I'm probably drunk washer

Demon will have a 50/50 gamble on killing Cheetah actually now that I brought that up.

Imo

Cause they can frame Cheetah as evil if they don't kill them, but risk being caught by empath info

1:11 a.m.

i mean

1:12 a.m.

final day empath info is always a yes

1:12 a.m.

because youre next to 2 players

I think if

and 1 is the demon

1:12 a.m.

so it doesnt matter at all

If cheetah lives they are probably the demon

1:12 a.m.

Like even if they wanna mislynch cheetah

1:12 a.m.

They're the most confirmed here

1:12 a.m.

If they live they're most likely evil

Mr. Fish

so it doesnt matter at all

oh you right, forgot that in F4 at night empath doesn't see before the kill

53R0 (Zero)

But ultimately, Free. Why did you clear Fish again?

Nvm Fish would know cheetah is drunk if both Kaz and amne are town So yeah he couldve tried framing amne by asking him to hammer Lucas catsit

(still dk why he would sacrifice the poisoner tho)

Just glanced at b/c

5:00 a.m.

Vc

5:00 a.m.

Either zero is evil, both amne and free are evil

5:00 a.m.

Or there’s one evil left

5:01 a.m.

Probably latter

5:01 a.m.

Me go now

Oh shit imma get force replaced at this rate

8:30 a.m.

Is anyone here

8:30 a.m.

Hi

8:31 a.m.

…

8:31 a.m.

I’ll wait if

8:32 a.m.

*ig

8:32 a.m.

We have to come to a conclusion for the lynch anyways

I'll be back after I complete my weekend challenge hopefully

I want full marks (Cheetah)

We have to come to a conclusion for the lynch anyways

hi Cheetah

8:58 a.m.

Morning

9:45 a.m.

We got 2 hours catsit

Sprigatito

hi Cheetah

Sprig out of Me and Free who do you think is scum?

you look good

9:49 a.m.

as in, town

9:49 a.m.

Free looks scum to me

Sprigatito

Free looks scum to me

Might I ask why?

9:52 a.m.

For both if possible

my reads

9:53 a.m.

but i do not know

️

Sprigatito

hi Cheetah

Hi

9:59 a.m.

What’s up

how are you ?

53R0 (Zero)

We got 2 hours catsit

Yeah we gotta decide

Sprigatito

how are you ?

I’m good

10:01 a.m.

@53R0 (Zero) are you an alcoholic >:(

10:01 a.m.

Wait maybe I’m an alcoholic

10:02 a.m.

@Sprigatito am I am alcoholic

10:02 a.m.

*a

I want full marks (Cheetah)

@53R0 (Zero) are you an alcoholic >:(

I mean in the world I proposed, I would be. With you being poisoned until Free showed up

53R0 (Zero)

I mean in the world I proposed, I would be. With you being poisoned until Free showed up

True

10:02 a.m.

It could be free only one left

10:02 a.m.

But there’s still the fish amne world

One moment guys

10:03 a.m.

I'm in a mall with my parents shopping stuff

I want full marks (Cheetah)

But there’s still the fish amne world

Which frankly would make sense

I want full marks (Cheetah)

But there’s still the fish amne world

The Fish Amne world is quite odd. Could you explain it?

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Which frankly would make sense

OR it’s someone else and we’re all being bamboozled

53R0 (Zero)

The Fish Amne world is quite odd. Could you explain it?

Fish is defending amne as not demon specifically

10:03 a.m.

It’s possible but not more likely than any of the other worlds

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Fish is defending amne as not demon specifically

Who would be the scum in Amne / Fish / ???

10:04 a.m.

Cause we'd have to assume either Lucas / Zade or Stella is good

53R0 (Zero)

Who would be the scum in Amne / Fish / ???

Amne demon fish minion

53R0 (Zero)

Cause we'd have to assume either Lucas / Zade or Stella is good

True

10:04 a.m.

One of them would have to be good

10:04 a.m.

Which is why I think it’s kinda unlikely

10:05 a.m.

I think only demons left

It would take too many poisons to make sense imo

10:05 a.m.

Or well, it would have to be Zade and Stella is somehow good

So yeah @I want full marks (Cheetah) @That_Amnesiac @Mr. Fish It's all up to you. Please make your vote count

Well surely in a world where you and free are town and 2 scum left they would’ve hammered already

10:17 a.m.

Either free is scum, there’s only one scum left, or you’re scum

10:17 a.m.

Idk

Free's Main

I'm in a mall with my parents shopping stuff

Can't yall wait for few more mins

10:22 a.m.

(They are literally scolding me at this point)

10:27 a.m.

Ok so

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Well surely in a world where you and free are town and 2 scum left they would’ve hammered already

Yes that's why I've been leaving my vote hanging for 23 hours now lol

10:28 a.m.

It's basically confirmed that as long as I'm not scum there's only 1 evil alive

10:29 a.m.

Or well, I've been voting someone evil this whole time

10:31 a.m.

If Fish and Amne were scum they would of hammered Free by now

With only one scum

I guess everyone agrees with Lucas being poisoner (except for me ofc) & Stella is evil (based on how they are acting now) You know what's the craziest part here - I'm still being accused of being evil even when I'm the one who asked Lucas to claim in the first place and had Stella in my invest pings. So you guys are implying that I made Lucas claim Virgin and outed Stella for w/e reason. Also Allan cleared me and sprig from being demon but again zero proposed a theory of Stella being demon and me being Sw (wtf ur just tryna frame me at this point). And I'm only evil if zero is drunk(cuz Lucas and me are neighbours) and cheetah being poisoned n0 - which is a bit far fetched I think??? And what prevents zero from being demon? - literally nothing (the part bout voting Stella isn't really a defense and iirc, Eod wasn't very much active... And also, if you read back - zero and Stella were eager to vote Kaz d2 which wouldn't enable Kaz from confirming sprig yk) And the most annoying part is - @Danger!? Luka! Did you really just sheep zeros reasoning without like reviewing it at all?? and you concluded that it's me based on ur reads (iirc ur reason was that you find fish/amne/zero towny) and when I questioned a bout as to why you're doing it in a botc game - you just left it off by saying this isn't botc(that's not true, it's just botc with slight variations) And also you wanted to vote me anyways cuz I haven't been playing the game, but you're literally just doing the same at this point (sure ur first 3 days were fine but ur d4 is worse than some people here - ie just following zeros reasoning and ur reads or w/e) And I haven't been playing the game?? - Sure, zero/fish/amne might have done more than me but it's granted since they are regular botc players, but I've been trying in my own way too (and you know that's true)

I want full marks (Cheetah)

With only one scum

We can safely mislynch once

10:41 a.m.

Only once

10:42 a.m.

It’s either zero or free

10:42 a.m.

It is not amne/fish team

10:42 a.m.

They would’ve hammered

I want full marks (Cheetah)

It’s either zero or free

Just read

I want full marks (Cheetah)

It is not amne/fish team

and why can't fish be the demon? Sure if they're slayer then amne is cleared ofc but what if fish isn't the slayer

‍♂️

10:45 a.m.

Just stating the possibilities yk

No I’m just saying they can’t be a TEAM

10:45 a.m.

They clearly would’ve hammered

10:45 a.m.

Ofc fish can still be demon

I want full marks (Cheetah)

No I’m just saying they can’t be a TEAM

Yeah sure me and fish can't be paired too (cuz we would've hammered amne by then)

I think it’s very likely that

10:46 a.m.

It’s just the demon left

10:46 a.m.

So we can afford one mislynch

10:47 a.m.

We needn’t have to worry about TODAYS lynch

Free's Main

I guess everyone agrees with Lucas being poisoner (except for me ofc) & Stella is evil (based on how they are acting now) You know what's the craziest part here - I'm still being accused of being evil even when I'm the one who asked Lucas to claim in the first place and had Stella in my invest pings. So you guys are implying that I made Lucas claim Virgin and outed Stella for w/e reason. Also Allan cleared me and sprig from being demon but again zero proposed a theory of Stella being demon and me being Sw (wtf ur just tryna frame me at this point). And I'm only evil if zero is drunk(cuz Lucas and me are neighbours) and cheetah being poisoned n0 - which is a bit far fetched I think??? And what prevents zero from being demon? - literally nothing (the part bout voting Stella isn't really a defense and iirc, Eod wasn't very much active... And also, if you read back - zero and Stella were eager to vote Kaz d2 which wouldn't enable Kaz from confirming sprig yk) And the most annoying part is - @Danger!? Luka! Did you really just sheep zeros reasoning without like reviewing it at all?? and you concluded that it's me based on ur reads (iirc ur reason was that you find fish/amne/zero towny) and when I questioned a bout as to why you're doing it in a botc game - you just left it off by saying this isn't botc(that's not true, it's just botc with slight variations) And also you wanted to vote me anyways cuz I haven't been playing the game, but you're literally just doing the same at this point (sure ur first 3 days were fine but ur d4 is worse than some people here - ie just following zeros reasoning and ur reads or w/e) And I haven't been playing the game?? - Sure, zero/fish/amne might have done more than me but it's granted since they are regular botc players, but I've been trying in my own way too (and you know that's true)

@Alive Line SP (ignore the last part uh)

But if we lynch wrong we do have to tomorrow

I want full marks (Cheetah)

It’s just the demon left

ie if Lucas is poisoner

‍♂️

10:51 a.m.

ong I'm not good at arguing ugh

10:51 a.m.

Free's Main

I guess everyone agrees with Lucas being poisoner (except for me ofc) & Stella is evil (based on how they are acting now) You know what's the craziest part here - I'm still being accused of being evil even when I'm the one who asked Lucas to claim in the first place and had Stella in my invest pings. So you guys are implying that I made Lucas claim Virgin and outed Stella for w/e reason. Also Allan cleared me and sprig from being demon but again zero proposed a theory of Stella being demon and me being Sw (wtf ur just tryna frame me at this point). And I'm only evil if zero is drunk(cuz Lucas and me are neighbours) and cheetah being poisoned n0 - which is a bit far fetched I think??? And what prevents zero from being demon? - literally nothing (the part bout voting Stella isn't really a defense and iirc, Eod wasn't very much active... And also, if you read back - zero and Stella were eager to vote Kaz d2 which wouldn't enable Kaz from confirming sprig yk) And the most annoying part is - @Danger!? Luka! Did you really just sheep zeros reasoning without like reviewing it at all?? and you concluded that it's me based on ur reads (iirc ur reason was that you find fish/amne/zero towny) and when I questioned a bout as to why you're doing it in a botc game - you just left it off by saying this isn't botc(that's not true, it's just botc with slight variations) And also you wanted to vote me anyways cuz I haven't been playing the game, but you're literally just doing the same at this point (sure ur first 3 days were fine but ur d4 is worse than some people here - ie just following zeros reasoning and ur reads or w/e) And I haven't been playing the game?? - Sure, zero/fish/amne might have done more than me but it's granted since they are regular botc players, but I've been trying in my own way too (and you know that's true)

No, I did not sheep zeros reasoning without reviewing it at all Yes, I concluded it was you since I think that Zero + Cheetah + Maybe amne are all town No, this isn't BOTC. Dead votes are removed and whispers are removed. In addition to that, nearly every good role is nerfed and evil role is buffed. I am dead. I can help solve but I dont need an iron clad stance. In addition to that, this is still the logic of "x is doing x wrong so I am spared". Not only that, but I still did state explicitly who I think was evil. It's not folllowing Zeros logic with no reason, it's POE Lastly, being a regular BOTC player or not it doesn't really matter. For what its worth, I was very rude to you last night and I apologize for that. But my point was that it's a possible F5 and you're not doing anything in terms of finding the evil. If we want to win its just very frustrating

I really think it’s just the demon left

10:53 a.m.

Like CMON

10:53 a.m.

We can probably afford a mislynch

I'm gonna read the rest of the game

I want full marks (Cheetah)

We can probably afford a mislynch

Only world where we cant is zero + fish evil I think

10:53 a.m.

but neh

Free's Main

I guess everyone agrees with Lucas being poisoner (except for me ofc) & Stella is evil (based on how they are acting now) You know what's the craziest part here - I'm still being accused of being evil even when I'm the one who asked Lucas to claim in the first place and had Stella in my invest pings. So you guys are implying that I made Lucas claim Virgin and outed Stella for w/e reason. Also Allan cleared me and sprig from being demon but again zero proposed a theory of Stella being demon and me being Sw (wtf ur just tryna frame me at this point). And I'm only evil if zero is drunk(cuz Lucas and me are neighbours) and cheetah being poisoned n0 - which is a bit far fetched I think??? And what prevents zero from being demon? - literally nothing (the part bout voting Stella isn't really a defense and iirc, Eod wasn't very much active... And also, if you read back - zero and Stella were eager to vote Kaz d2 which wouldn't enable Kaz from confirming sprig yk) And the most annoying part is - @Danger!? Luka! Did you really just sheep zeros reasoning without like reviewing it at all?? and you concluded that it's me based on ur reads (iirc ur reason was that you find fish/amne/zero towny) and when I questioned a bout as to why you're doing it in a botc game - you just left it off by saying this isn't botc(that's not true, it's just botc with slight variations) And also you wanted to vote me anyways cuz I haven't been playing the game, but you're literally just doing the same at this point (sure ur first 3 days were fine but ur d4 is worse than some people here - ie just following zeros reasoning and ur reads or w/e) And I haven't been playing the game?? - Sure, zero/fish/amne might have done more than me but it's granted since they are regular botc players, but I've been trying in my own way too (and you know that's true)

I mean, you might not have made Lucas claim virgin. You asked for a claim and they became rogue You can also just be SW; don't think that's a reach or trying to frame you

10:55 a.m.

I do kinda believe you think what you're saying is true

10:55 a.m.

But I also think that Zero is just towni lol

Free if you really are town

10:56 a.m.

I do genuinely think that it’s just the demon left

10:56 a.m.

Your flip would help a LOT

Cheetah why are you acting so scummy

10:57 a.m.

Danger!? Luka!

Only world where we cant is zero + fish evil I think

Because it’s only demon left except in this situation

10:57 a.m.

Which is SUPER unlikely

10:57 a.m.

And we can afford a mislynch

10:58 a.m.

And really your lynch would solve whether I’m drunk or not and stuff

11:00 a.m.

And if I’m drunk and not just poisoned n0

11:00 a.m.

Then people won’t trust my potentially incorrect info that could be detrimental to town

@Alive Line SP day end in 35m and we have 3 people not voting

Danger!? Luka!

@Alive Line SP day end in 35m and we have 3 people not voting

I’ll vote closer to day end

11:27 a.m.

What do you think though

11:27 a.m.

Is free a good idea to you

Danger!? Luka!

@Alive Line SP day end in 35m and we have 3 people not voting

I just woke u0

Nope

11:42 a.m.

Not gonan hammer

I want full marks (Cheetah)

What do you think though

idk

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Not gonan hammer

Do it, doubt we lose here

11:48 a.m.

Actually nvm

11:48 a.m.

We lose here

Kazuma

We lose here

I think yeah

Kazuma

Do it, doubt we lose here

The game would end if both free and I are good and there's 2 evils

Whatever happens happens

Like the game just

This is scuffed

Ends

That_Amnesiac

The game would end if both free and I are good and there's 2 evils

Votes aren’t locked so idt it works like that

11:50 a.m.

Both evils would have to vote

11:50 a.m.

Before town changes

if amne is evil i just wanna say me and lucas told you so

The Lucas who provided nothing to the game other than scream "I WANT REVENGE WAHHHH"

11:51 a.m.

?

11:51 a.m.

or is there another one you're talking about

Kazuma

Votes aren’t locked so idt it works like that

^

allan gamesyt

if amne is evil i just wanna say me and lucas told you so

Lucas dying screwed us over me thinks

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Not gonan hammer

Wtf are you doing

11:51 a.m.

???

Yep. Thats the one. And besides i wasnt out for revenge. I just saw that you were scummy amne and wanted you lynched for your scummy play

I think that I would be voting fish if I were alive fwiw but also

allan gamesyt

Yep. Thats the one. And besides i wasnt out for revenge. I just saw that you were scummy amne and wanted you lynched for your scummy play

My scummy play as in intentionally hammering the virgin

GL, hope today hits

Yes

...

because only way you shouldve survived that is if you were evil cause i doubt lucas was poisoned

Why the fuck would I do that

That_Amnesiac

My scummy play as in intentionally hammering the virgin

You were hesitating at the start yk, and you had no choice after the empath results

If im evil

you had no choice

to pass it off as him being poisoned?

Free's Main

You were hesitating at the start yk, and you had no choice after the empath results

Yeah and at face value there are better people

11:53 a.m.

Like

11:53 a.m.

You

11:53 a.m.

Or zero

11:53 a.m.

Washerwoman is the worst YSK

That_Amnesiac

Yeah and at face value there are better people

Nope Remember the empath's info

11:53 a.m.

and Kaz can prove his role

i said my piece ima peace out till end of day or end of game. Whichever comes first

If town loses here then it's cuz they didn't think Lucas is virgin

11:54 a.m.

@Zade sorry but we are los9ng if ur virgin

either they're poisoned or a fucking idiot

11:54 a.m.

Not zade

11:54 a.m.

But lucas

I still didn't read this game-

Like I said I think Lucas didn't read ysks before they claimed virgin

11:55 a.m.

And was like "oh they won't wanna hammer me tf will die"

Zade

I still didn't read this game-

You don't need to anymore if ur town (game ends in 5 mins)

Free's Main

@Zade sorry but we are los9ng if ur virgin

Why

That_Amnesiac

Wtf are you doing

I don’t want to hammer

...

There’s only 4 mins anyways

My brother

Zade

Why

Why? Because then it would mean there are 2 evils in f5

I want full marks (Cheetah)

I don’t want to hammer

Unless you’re NOT voting free, just hammer it

We legit lose an exe

and fish is afk

Kazuma

Unless you’re NOT voting free, just hammer it

Fine

We LOSE AN EXECUTION

11:56 a.m.

Not exing is probably the worst thing we could do on any day

ggs

11:56 a.m.

@Lunexia game ends I think?

11:57 a.m.

or maybe not

Free's Main

@Lunexia game ends I think?

If ur evil it does

11:57 a.m.

If ur good we go to f3

EoD

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Lunexia pinned a message to this channel. 2024-10-13 11:55 a.m.

@Alive Line SP

ye ?

12:03 p.m.

i am a delivery

12:04 p.m.

there’s 1 cum

So this is not the F3 situation anyone wants to be in

this is just stupid. We havs zero, fish, and amne in a f3

either you, Allan, or Amne

12:04 p.m.

i think Amne is sus

Umm

12:04 p.m.

Prig

12:04 p.m.

Im dead

oh

this is just stupid. We havs zero, fish, and amne in a f3

It's Fish / Amne / Me

Fish, Zero, Amne

@Mr. Fish @53R0 (Zero) cross

This is so dumb

Sprigatito

Fish, Zero, Amne

I think Amne is cum

luka stop stealing my words

theres only 1 cum

I can't even vote today, ugh.

Danger!? Luka!

@Mr. Fish @53R0 (Zero) cross

act maybe wait

If I do I gametheow

but its probably u two

12:05 p.m.

who cross

Danger!? Luka!

who cross

Amne

12:05 p.m.

hes demon

12:06 p.m.

whatever i said

12:06 p.m.

kinda makes sense

Yea thats been my thoughts as well

12:06 p.m.

Amne has to be demon

VOTEEEEEEEEEE

Sprigatito

Amne

Amne being demon doesn't make sense tho? If Fish is real

12:06 p.m.

Then how did the Slayer shot fail

who did slayer shootM

Amne

...

Fish shot amne

what?

12:07 p.m.

wait..

12:07 p.m.

If fish is slayer... and slayer shot failed...

53R0 (Zero)

Amne being demon doesn't make sense tho? If Fish is real

^^

12:07 p.m.

Only world amne is demon is slayer info is wrong

Then Fish is the demon faking slayer

or zeros info

12:07 p.m.

is wrong

Or you’re evil but

Only 3 ways thats possible zero

12:08 p.m.

Number 1. Fish is faking slayer. 2. Fish was poisoned. Or 3. YOUR THE DEMON!

Kazuma

Or you’re evil but

If I'm evil evils wouldve won curtain

well I still dont understand why I was lynched yesterday

‍♂️

Pretty sure if I was the demon, I wouldn't of pushed free so hard

12:09 p.m.

That put a huge target on my back

53R0 (Zero)

Pretty sure if I was the demon, I wouldn't of pushed free so hard

bro

‍♂️

12:09 p.m.

thats not really a defense

Yea

It's not, but to be fair I don't really have one

12:09 p.m.

I'm just here.

and you didnt push me "so hard"

Danger!? Luka!

If I'm evil evils wouldve won curtain

I meant zero

Free's Main

and you didnt push me "so hard"

... I literally caused a thunderdome what

12:10 p.m.

53R0 (Zero)

... I literally caused a thunderdome what

oh right you made up that stuff bout me

12:10 p.m.

I didn't make stuff up?

12:11 p.m.

I proposed a possible world and it was wrong

Free's Main

I guess everyone agrees with Lucas being poisoner (except for me ofc) & Stella is evil (based on how they are acting now) You know what's the craziest part here - I'm still being accused of being evil even when I'm the one who asked Lucas to claim in the first place and had Stella in my invest pings. So you guys are implying that I made Lucas claim Virgin and outed Stella for w/e reason. Also Allan cleared me and sprig from being demon but again zero proposed a theory of Stella being demon and me being Sw (wtf ur just tryna frame me at this point). And I'm only evil if zero is drunk(cuz Lucas and me are neighbours) and cheetah being poisoned n0 - which is a bit far fetched I think??? And what prevents zero from being demon? - literally nothing (the part bout voting Stella isn't really a defense and iirc, Eod wasn't very much active... And also, if you read back - zero and Stella were eager to vote Kaz d2 which wouldn't enable Kaz from confirming sprig yk) And the most annoying part is - @Danger!? Luka! Did you really just sheep zeros reasoning without like reviewing it at all?? and you concluded that it's me based on ur reads (iirc ur reason was that you find fish/amne/zero towny) and when I questioned a bout as to why you're doing it in a botc game - you just left it off by saying this isn't botc(that's not true, it's just botc with slight variations) And also you wanted to vote me anyways cuz I haven't been playing the game, but you're literally just doing the same at this point (sure ur first 3 days were fine but ur d4 is worse than some people here - ie just following zeros reasoning and ur reads or w/e) And I haven't been playing the game?? - Sure, zero/fish/amne might have done more than me but it's granted since they are regular botc players, but I've been trying in my own way too (and you know that's true)

btw I saw you typing after I posted this

Well I guess technically that is making it up?

but you remained silent

12:11 p.m.

like it showed "zero was typing"

Uh? No?

I literally stated multiple times Lucas and Stella were evil

12:12 p.m.

So what does that even prove?

nothing

12:12 p.m.

but yeah

12:12 p.m.

still suspicious ig

Fine then I guess I'll vote. Idc anymore

‍♂️

Fish is my top Sus atp

12:13 p.m.

Amne doesn't read demon to me

@That_Amnesiac sus

If Amne doesn't quick hammer it's Fish

12:14 p.m.

(I'm giving you a chance Amne to be a good townie -3-)

53R0 (Zero)

I proposed a possible world and it was wrong

yeah sure, you proposed a theory but it was less likely to be possible

12:15 p.m.

well uh

12:17 p.m.

@Mr. Fish sup

Free's Main

yeah sure, you proposed a theory but it was less likely to be possible

(than fish fakeclaiming slayer)

Well all I can do is hopefully let Amne clear themselves and pray.

12:34 p.m.

Cause I'm not unvoting cause ATP I know Cheetah is the drunk and my info would be sober in this world

@Mr. Fish

1:12 p.m.

cross

1:12 p.m.

@That_Amnesiac

1:12 p.m.

ack

Luka do you blame me for voting

1:15 p.m.

I'm genuinely curious what people think about it

53R0 (Zero)

Luka do you blame me for voting

No but

1:17 p.m.

If you have might as welll see if the game ends

1:17 p.m.

Not as though it's worth drawing it out

1:17 p.m.

I wouldnt have voted this early but I dont really care

1:17 p.m.

Worst case this game ends

Yeah I'm just wanting this to be over. My POV basically is Cheetah's info was drunk which made me falsely believe Free was scum for all of yesterday

53R0 (Zero)

(I'm giving you a chance Amne to be a good townie -3-)

Wut

I want full marks (Cheetah)

They would’ve hammered

If there's 2 evils alive the game is over

2:00 p.m.

There's one evil alive

That_Amnesiac

There's one evil alive

Basically Amne if you were evil you would of silent voted Fish without a second thought

2:10 p.m.

and just insta won

I just realized mayor is really

2:10 p.m.

Horrible in this

Yeah majority is 2.

2:10 p.m.

Which is why I gambled

2:11 p.m.

I needed to know the Fish Demon world was way more plausible

When did fish shoot me

2:11 p.m.

Again

That_Amnesiac

When did fish shoot me

So yeah congrats Amne you're town and end of day 3

2:12 p.m.

End of Day 3 when Stella was lynched

So if you think I'm evil you would have to think I'm sw and Stella is demon, or cheetah/Kaz starpassed to me

2:13 p.m.

Which is very unlikely

That_Amnesiac

So if you think I'm evil you would have to think I'm sw and Stella is demon, or cheetah/Kaz starpassed to me

You aren't evil

2:13 p.m.

You would killed Fish just now

I know :3

Though I guess it's ultimately up to you who dies between me and Fish

2:16 p.m.

Sorry to hand that responsibility to you

ahhhhh

2:16 p.m.

Hmmmm

2:18 p.m.

Well

2:18 p.m.

If I'm wrong I can blame lune and also blame tb and ALSO say that it's impossible

2:19 p.m.

And if I'm right I can take all the credit

2:19 p.m.

So I see no way this goes wrong for me :D

2:19 p.m.

Technically I could lose BUT that isn't a real thing

2:20 p.m.

Ok but seriously this is hard asf

Amne nobody will blame you for voting incorrectly this setup is so fucking scum sided

Like zero and fish have BOTH read so townie

2:20 p.m.

And like the only scummy stuff they've done

2:20 p.m.

Can be spun townie

(Also an FYI why I decided to gamble was I was tired of everyone calling you evil)

Like was zero trying to mislynch me or were they rightfully being superstitious because they're townie

2:21 p.m.

Or like

2:21 p.m.

Ugh

Did I ever actually push you after the Lucas incident I don't recall entirely

Neither do I

Like sure maybe I mentioned it as a possibility but I don't think I pushed

2:24 p.m.

Also another thing Amne, remember when I mentioned that killing Cheetah would basically allow the the demon to win instantly

2:24 p.m.

No killing Cheetah sorry*

2:24 p.m.

Not fuck -3-

2:24 p.m.

Why didn't they do that

maybe they didn't see it

I tried to reverse psychology the demon into not killing them but alas

2:25 p.m.

To be fair if cheetah lived im just insta voting the other person so

That's fair, that was a rather large gamble

2:26 p.m.

And there was never going to be a world where I or you would be killed.

Yea

Why is this still on

That_Amnesiac

Yea

Are you evil

Kazuma

Are you evil

Ni

2:50 p.m.

Jo

2:50 p.m.

n

2:51 p.m.

o

2:51 p.m.

It's literally 2 letters

2:51 p.m.

Why can't I type it

Maybe im talking bullshit

2:53 p.m.

But like

2:54 p.m.

You know you’re not demon. Fish, from your pov, cleared you of that. If he were evil he could have just fake cleared someone else and get you mislynched

2:55 p.m.

But he instead cleared the most suspicious person in the game

2:55 p.m.

So like

2:55 p.m.

Nvm idk what I’m saying

2:55 p.m.

You should get the point tho

2:55 p.m.

End it

Kazuma

You should get the point tho

We can't end it if Fish isn't here, assuming Amne wants me dead

2:58 p.m.

Plus we do need to hear their side of things reguardless

That_Amnesiac

When did fish shoot me

What else would they do

4:27 p.m.

Claim to not have shot

4:27 p.m.

Idgi

4:27 p.m.

Lmfao

4:27 p.m.

Anyways, it's probaly Fish + Stella + Lucas or something stupid like that

4:28 p.m.

Stella SW fish demon lucas poisoner

4:28 p.m.

I'm going to go take a shower bye

4:30 p.m.

uhhh

4:30 p.m.

why dont you think its zero though?

4:31 p.m.

fish / lucas interactions didnt seem like they were paired or smth

4:31 p.m.

can be faked but

‍♂️

Danger!? Luka!

Claim to not have shot

To be fair, if they didn't claim to shoot the person they were told to shoot. That would of outed them

4:35 p.m.

Basically they were forced to clear the most Sus person regardless

4:35 p.m.

And then I just double cleared Amne though voting gamble

Free's Main

fish / lucas interactions didnt seem like they were paired or smth

They don't need to be paired, Lucas was rogue

4:38 p.m.

I get Free is going to fight for me to be lynched due to yesterday understandably, but both of the confirmed town voted with me yesterday. That should at least resemble that they trusted me enough

53R0 (Zero)

They don't need to be paired, Lucas was rogue

did you even try to iso?

I have no reason to try to Iso lucas

4:40 p.m.

Fish was very adamantly staying away from the situation

4:40 p.m.

From my POV there's no reason to try to align Lucas with anyone

4:41 p.m.

They were rogue and acting (to put it mildly) vengeful

53R0 (Zero)

I get Free is going to fight for me to be lynched due to yesterday understandably, but both of the confirmed town voted with me yesterday. That should at least resemble that they trusted me enough

well how is this even gonna help you? and no, I did saw you typing after I sent that para but you just lurked until EOD (and I did tell as to why I think ur scum over fish yesterday

‍♂️ )

53R0 (Zero)

I have no reason to try to Iso lucas

uhhh

Free's Main

well how is this even gonna help you? and no, I did saw you typing after I sent that para but you just lurked until EOD (and I did tell as to why I think ur scum over fish yesterday

‍♂️ )

I didn't lurk

4:44 p.m.

I was at work that entire time

4:44 p.m.

If I did type something, I wasn't able to finish the thought

4:45 p.m.

I quite literally stated I parking my vote then said nothing else

4:46 p.m.

or wait that's the wrong day I'm thinking of

4:46 p.m.

Yeah that is, ignore that

4:47 p.m.

Either way, I am going to apologize in advance for being wrong

4:47 p.m.

I should of been the one killed yesterday

4:47 p.m.

Then it would of been you / Amne / Fish

53R0 (Zero)

From my POV there's no reason to try to align Lucas with anyone

for example, it was very clear that lucas wasnt paired with @That_Amnesiac here so iso-ing them can give yall some sort of hint @Mr. Fish @53R0 (Zero) (which ever of you is town) but you're just denying to do that at this point (well this certainly isnt a towny behaviour)

4:50 p.m.

So what if lucas was rogue? They might have slipped here and there yk

Free's Main

for example, it was very clear that lucas wasnt paired with @That_Amnesiac here so iso-ing them can give yall some sort of hint @Mr. Fish @53R0 (Zero) (which ever of you is town) but you're just denying to do that at this point (well this certainly isnt a towny behaviour)

Free, think about this. From my POV Lucas is scum and was obviously not paired with Amne. I gave Amne the benefit of the doubt by voting for Fish. Obviously, Amne didn't hammer. I just don't see a point in trying to use Lucas to figure out if Fish is scum if in my POV he's the only demon candidate

4:51 p.m.

It's final 3 with a confirmed townie

well yeah my bad, I pinged the wrong person

Free's Main

for example, it was very clear that lucas wasnt paired with @That_Amnesiac here so iso-ing them can give yall some sort of hint @Mr. Fish @53R0 (Zero) (which ever of you is town) but you're just denying to do that at this point (well this certainly isnt a towny behaviour)

@That_Amnesiac ur vote decides everything so uh

So yeah, me not wanting to ISO Lucas is justified

4:54 p.m.

I gave Amne the Townie cred they desperately needed (especially at the start of the day), and now they have a 50/50

4:54 p.m.

Cause Fish cannot argue against Amne at all cause they faked shooting them

4:56 p.m.

So yeah, Amne this all you. Fish will do everything in their power to convince you it's me. I'm completely fine with whoever you choose. I won't try to sway you, I've talked enough

Free's Main

I guess everyone agrees with Lucas being poisoner (except for me ofc) & Stella is evil (based on how they are acting now) You know what's the craziest part here - I'm still being accused of being evil even when I'm the one who asked Lucas to claim in the first place and had Stella in my invest pings. So you guys are implying that I made Lucas claim Virgin and outed Stella for w/e reason. Also Allan cleared me and sprig from being demon but again zero proposed a theory of Stella being demon and me being Sw (wtf ur just tryna frame me at this point). And I'm only evil if zero is drunk(cuz Lucas and me are neighbours) and cheetah being poisoned n0 - which is a bit far fetched I think??? And what prevents zero from being demon? - literally nothing (the part bout voting Stella isn't really a defense and iirc, Eod wasn't very much active... And also, if you read back - zero and Stella were eager to vote Kaz d2 which wouldn't enable Kaz from confirming sprig yk) And the most annoying part is - @Danger!? Luka! Did you really just sheep zeros reasoning without like reviewing it at all?? and you concluded that it's me based on ur reads (iirc ur reason was that you find fish/amne/zero towny) and when I questioned a bout as to why you're doing it in a botc game - you just left it off by saying this isn't botc(that's not true, it's just botc with slight variations) And also you wanted to vote me anyways cuz I haven't been playing the game, but you're literally just doing the same at this point (sure ur first 3 days were fine but ur d4 is worse than some people here - ie just following zeros reasoning and ur reads or w/e) And I haven't been playing the game?? - Sure, zero/fish/amne might have done more than me but it's granted since they are regular botc players, but I've been trying in my own way too (and you know that's true)

btw @That_Amnesiac did you even read this before voting me off yesterday (cheetah was on bout "free is evil" due to their info so w/e and they are dead anyway so) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1295088388113829898 - Nah, you're just being unreasonable rn... You didnt explain why I was a better vote than zero yesterday, and if ur wrong tday then you will blame lune?? Like....

Free's Main

btw @That_Amnesiac did you even read this before voting me off yesterday (cheetah was on bout "free is evil" due to their info so w/e and they are dead anyway so) https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1295088388113829898 - Nah, you're just being unreasonable rn... You didnt explain why I was a better vote than zero yesterday, and if ur wrong tday then you will blame lune?? Like....

from my pov yesterday

4:56 p.m.

we just kill you and then zero and win

4:56 p.m.

because yesterday i was being ignorant

53R0 (Zero)

So yeah, me not wanting to ISO Lucas is justified

so ur just gonna wait for amne to decide instead of stating as to why fish is scum

4:56 p.m.

ic

of fish being evil as a possibility

Free's Main

so ur just gonna wait for amne to decide instead of stating as to why fish is scum

I already did

4:57 p.m.

Multiple times.

4:57 p.m.

53R0 (Zero)

I already did

huh

4:58 p.m.

I dont see anything except for saying "fish faked slayer"

4:58 p.m.

how does that even help

I proved Amne's innocence-

4:58 p.m.

Wtf do you mean how does that help?

53R0 (Zero)

I proved Amne's innocence-

you were voting him yesterday

4:58 p.m.

sure

53R0 (Zero)

Wtf do you mean how does that help?

I mean, you have to say that cuz amne is town fypov

@That_Amnesiac Am I literally proving you are town RN by you not voting fish

That_Amnesiac

of fish being evil as a possibility

Do you think fish is evil though?

4:59 p.m.

sure that's a possibility

Free if I was scum I would be utterly silent rn and would of let everyone think Amne was scum and Fish was the drunk

5:01 p.m.

So you think no one would point out that cheetah is drunk?

5:01 p.m.

seriously?

5:01 p.m.

your defense is getting worse over time

5:01 p.m.

@Mr. Fish get in here

5:01 p.m.

you two cross

5:01 p.m.

imma go

Free's Main

I dont see anything except for saying "fish faked slayer"

@53R0 (Zero) you need to do more than this btw

Free's Main

@53R0 (Zero) you need to do more than this btw

Oh I know

5:05 p.m.

I'm going to me making a exact day by day world

5:05 p.m.

And ping everyone when I'm done

One that explains everything up to this point and also write Fish's POV

Free's Main

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Yawn all you want. Comfycatsip

Well its 3 am

53R0 (Zero)

One that explains everything up to this point and also write Fish's POV

and ur just tryna appeal to amne at this point, and havent really tried convincing as to why fish is scum

5:13 p.m.

‍♂️

World where Fish is Demon Roles: Sprig - Solider Zero - Chef (With a 0) Luka - Monk Allan - Fortune Teller (Sprig / Free not Demon) Fish - Demon (Faking Solider) Free - Investigator (Ping on Kaz / Stella / Sprig) Zade - Poisoner (Faking Poisoner) Kaz - Undertaker (Found Zade as Poisoner / Sprig as Soilder) Cheetah - Drunk (Empath) ((Results were 1, 0, 0, 1)) Amne - Washerwoman (Found Zade or Cheetah as Good) Stella - Scarlet Woman (Faking Ravenkeeper) Night 0: Lucas poisoned Cheetah / Luka / Kaz (either way it was sunk) Free found the Ping on Kaz / Stella / Sprig Allan found Free / Sprig to be inno, which I should I believed more. Cheetah got a 1, which caused the entire day 1 to spiral into chaos with Mass Claims and Amne hesitating to hammer the Poisoner. Day 1: This day is actually very important for this world, Fish incited the entire Amne hammering the "Virgin". As by proxy of doing that he was able to spin it as doing the most townie thing, giving them the benefit of the doubt for the rest of the game. Fish must of assumed that at this point of the game Lucas would go all out to convince everyone that Kaz was poisoned the next day. Day 2: This day was... chaotic to say the very least, and I think everyone was trying to piece together what the hell was going on. I do think if we didn't mass claim day 1 we might of been able to solve this way earlier. But Luka claiming Monk did allow for Kaz to what they needed to before they died. Day 3: Figuring out Sprig was Solider solidified that Stella was in fact the minion in most circumstances, which people (myself included) falsely was assuming Amne was still the demon, and proposed to the now claimed Slayer to shoot Amne. Without much room to argue, they were forced to claim they would shoot Amne, who was never the demon. Fish DID NOT vote this day at all, presumably to avoid being outed. Day 4: I mistakenly thought Free was Demon by proxy of tunnelvisioning- (See next post)

5:38 p.m.

Free being investigator should of been obvious in hindsight, but that's completely my fault, and if it's to note Free also was mostly letting me take the fall for the entire situation as I was in heat the ENTIRE day. Which as people have mentioned they didn't suspect Fish to be the demon, but realistically it's just a case of me being the perfect suspect of my own yapping. Cheetah also assuming their info was true at this point was a misplay by the entire town, as Cheetah was never going to see a evil ping as their neighbors were always good. I don't have a defense for my actions, but at least I can write this. I don't want to try to drag this on anymore.

5:38 p.m.

I didn't mean to saw free was letting me take the fall, I meant Fish.

5:38 p.m.

say*

5:40 p.m.

Man I should of proofread this more, I called Fish Soilder instead of Slayer in the roles. Oops

i have awoken

7:33 p.m.

i have a lot of backreading to do

Danger!? Luka!

cross

sorry what is cross? youve mentioned it twice in my mentions and i have no clue what it means

7:38 p.m.

gahh im gonna pull up the one botc website

7:39 p.m.

(im gonna do some talking after i restart my PC, its buggin out)

Mr. Fish

sorry what is cross? youve mentioned it twice in my mentions and i have no clue what it means

Vote Zero

7:41 p.m.

Cross -> Two people vote one another

53R0 (Zero)

World where Fish is Demon Roles: Sprig - Solider Zero - Chef (With a 0) Luka - Monk Allan - Fortune Teller (Sprig / Free not Demon) Fish - Demon (Faking Solider) Free - Investigator (Ping on Kaz / Stella / Sprig) Zade - Poisoner (Faking Poisoner) Kaz - Undertaker (Found Zade as Poisoner / Sprig as Soilder) Cheetah - Drunk (Empath) ((Results were 1, 0, 0, 1)) Amne - Washerwoman (Found Zade or Cheetah as Good) Stella - Scarlet Woman (Faking Ravenkeeper) Night 0: Lucas poisoned Cheetah / Luka / Kaz (either way it was sunk) Free found the Ping on Kaz / Stella / Sprig Allan found Free / Sprig to be inno, which I should I believed more. Cheetah got a 1, which caused the entire day 1 to spiral into chaos with Mass Claims and Amne hesitating to hammer the Poisoner. Day 1: This day is actually very important for this world, Fish incited the entire Amne hammering the "Virgin". As by proxy of doing that he was able to spin it as doing the most townie thing, giving them the benefit of the doubt for the rest of the game. Fish must of assumed that at this point of the game Lucas would go all out to convince everyone that Kaz was poisoned the next day. Day 2: This day was... chaotic to say the very least, and I think everyone was trying to piece together what the hell was going on. I do think if we didn't mass claim day 1 we might of been able to solve this way earlier. But Luka claiming Monk did allow for Kaz to what they needed to before they died. Day 3: Figuring out Sprig was Solider solidified that Stella was in fact the minion in most circumstances, which people (myself included) falsely was assuming Amne was still the demon, and proposed to the now claimed Slayer to shoot Amne. Without much room to argue, they were forced to claim they would shoot Amne, who was never the demon. Fish DID NOT vote this day at all, presumably to avoid being outed. Day 4: I mistakenly thought Free was Demon by proxy of tunnelvisioning- (See next post)

Lol youre putting ot much effort into this

7:41 p.m.

@That_Amnesiac Thats why I think Zero is town When I played with them (w/w) they were a polarized noob who posted super awkward

Danger!? Luka!

Lol youre putting ot much effort into this

Eh, Free forced me to. Call it spite

Danger!? Luka!

Vote Zero

i mean yeah i kinda have to, i was gonna think of amne worlds and zero worlds but amne has been on to hammer me soooo

7:44 p.m.

Okay now argue

im busy pulling up the botc grim thing

7:44 p.m.

i have to make it on my own now

7:45 p.m.

fish isnt dead

7:45 p.m.

oops

7:45 p.m.

anyways thats correct

can i ask who the dead evils are in your worlds @That_Amnesiac

7:46 p.m.

because i do want to point out that there have to be 2 dead evils right now

Danger!? Luka!

Okay now argue

Do we have to splat

we basically have to appease the Lord and Savior Amne ATP.

Yes argue

7:46 p.m.

this feels like we are being forced to fight like dogs

7:47 p.m.

also, how do i assign roles

7:47 p.m.

on the botc thing

Its because you are dogs

7:47 p.m.

now argue

Mr. Fish

on the botc thing

You have to be a pateron subscriber

7:47 p.m.

53R0 (Zero)

You have to be a pateron subscriber

not for botc online

7:47 p.m.

only for reg botc

Danger!? Luka!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

this is the unofficial

7:47 p.m.

yeah

Oh, gotcha

also i was a patreon sub but i lost my sub its tragic

7:47 p.m.

im too broke

I tried doing that myself but it only let me assign roles randomly

click top right settings

(so I had to write it all : D, see above to that entire mess)

click show

ahh i see

7:48 p.m.

thank you

Danger!? Luka!

Its because you are dogs

Damn Luka, just because I'm a Houndoom does not mean we have to get into a gun fight -3- rood

7:51 p.m.

this is the exact world i am currently thinking of

7:52 p.m.

cheetah is droisoned N1

7:52 p.m.

idk which

7:52 p.m.

anyone between me, amne, cheetah, and luka can be the drunk

7:53 p.m.

actually what were cheetah's pings exactly?

7:54 p.m.

yeah N3 was wrong

7:54 p.m.

so in this world cheetah is drunk

Mr. Fish

actually what were cheetah's pings exactly?

N0 1 N1 0 N2 0 N3 0 N4 1

wat

Oh wait no they died lol

7:54 p.m.

Sorry N3 is 1

it was N3 1

7:54 p.m.

yeah

Yeah okay, my bad I thought today was day 6 for some fucking reason splat

i was saying something and you discombobulated me so bad i forgot what i was saying

Go ahead, sorry

i cant think of it...

7:56 p.m.

oh yeah, i was saying i think most people agree that zade is evil, im unsure how people feel about stella but it makes sense to me with the invest ping (unless it was austria, it could be either of those two imo but ive never seen austria play evil so im unsure.) if it is stella then, uh, based? correct info demon chef?

you guys are both so weak

Mr. Fish

oh yeah, i was saying i think most people agree that zade is evil, im unsure how people feel about stella but it makes sense to me with the invest ping (unless it was austria, it could be either of those two imo but ive never seen austria play evil so im unsure.) if it is stella then, uh, based? correct info demon chef?

Also yeah, I love how the worlds are basically the same just who the demon is swapped. That's just fun and makes Amne's job basically a coin flip. Also Kaz found Sprig / Austria as Solider so unless you want to argue poisoner was still alive

why is the other person evil

7:58 p.m.

why are you good

Danger!? Luka!

why are you good

To be quite fair Luka that's harder to exactly articulate other than POV's being directly distinct splat

Man I wish Fish shot me instead. This would be over by now.

7:59 p.m.

Because he couldn't fake shooting Amne then

8:00 p.m.

I should of put shot in quotes there-

Danger!? Luka!

why is the other person evil

i just gave the world, there is that. as for other stuff, i do want to note that not a single person in town had brought up killing the virgin until i started saying it, which is weird because that is a very standard town move. i woke up and i pushed lucas, we got them killed, and i do believe theyre evil

53R0 (Zero)

To be quite fair Luka that's harder to exactly articulate other than POV's being directly distinct splat

Man I wish Fish shot me instead. This would be over by now.

So youre telling me theirs zero towny things in here

Mr. Fish

i just gave the world, there is that. as for other stuff, i do want to note that not a single person in town had brought up killing the virgin until i started saying it, which is weird because that is a very standard town move. i woke up and i pushed lucas, we got them killed, and i do believe theyre evil

@53R0 (Zero) why is this wrong

and yeah im also gonna be real, i dont usually do longer mafia games where i have to essaypost stuff idk how to go about this in any case

Mr. Fish

and yeah im also gonna be real, i dont usually do longer mafia games where i have to essaypost stuff idk how to go about this in any case

Im a turbo player for what its worth, I largely play quick games that last ~~2 hours

8:01 p.m.

I dont like multiday lol

also, i was urging people to not claim but everyone kinda did it anyways

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/49006-Automated-turbo-game-thread-aa411c16-15c4-46-joat10-game?p=8753529&viewfull=1#post8753529 This is peak final 3

Completed: Automated turbo game thread: aa411c16-15c4-46 - [joat10 ...

#426 Posted by: matt Ack

Mr. Fish

also, i was urging people to not claim but everyone kinda did it anyways

Welcome to discord mafia thinky

53R0 (Zero)

Welcome to discord mafia thinky

People on DM refuse to claim until it's least convinent for the towm

lmao

8:02 p.m.

which in this case is D1

8:02 p.m.

or D0 i guess

OKay anyways

8:03 p.m.

My vote is metaphorically on Zero RN

Mr. Fish

which in this case is D1

Pretty much if Allan didn't claim Day 1 I think this game would of been solved 2 days ago lol

(I dont have actual votes)

8:03 p.m.

Zero is more focused on trying to find common ground with fish as opposed towards finding reasons why theyre mafia

8:03 p.m.

They're not even trying lmfao

is allan the first claim that lead to them all?

Fish's town case on themselves isn't a very good town case in all honesty but it's still better than whatever Zero is doing

either way luka is right this is kinda irrelevant

Danger!? Luka!

So youre telling me theirs zero towny things in here

Its not as if their isnt things to read into on both sides

8:04 p.m.

The only thing I can assume if somebody isn't trying to do it is that they're evil

Mr. Fish

i just gave the world, there is that. as for other stuff, i do want to note that not a single person in town had brought up killing the virgin until i started saying it, which is weird because that is a very standard town move. i woke up and i pushed lucas, we got them killed, and i do believe theyre evil

To be fair, you bussing the "Virgin" would give you quit the credit down the road.

im not sure what more i can say, i was going to bring up that i held my claim back but that can be taken as me wanting to claim an open slot, which hey im bringing it up now, take it either way

Let me find an example of a good wolf case by a good player I dont think that they're very hard to come up with, even if you're fairly new to the game. To make it good is another story but still

i was trying to wait to see if id be double claimed and/or cause at least SOME confusion as to my role but everyone had already claimed so it was kinda cooked from the start

Danger!? Luka!

Let me find an example of a good wolf case by a good player I dont think that they're very hard to come up with, even if you're fairly new to the game. To make it good is another story but still

sure, id appreciate one i suppose

53R0 (Zero)

To be fair, you bussing the "Virgin" would give you quit the credit down the road.

i dont have much to say on this except for the fact if i were demon id tell the SW to claim virgin, not the fuckin poisoner

Mr. Fish

i dont have much to say on this except for the fact if i were demon id tell the SW to claim virgin, not the fuckin poisoner

Well to be fair, no rational demon would do that, but once they claimed Virgin you had no other choice than to go the bus route

id disagree, if i were demon i couldve just not said anything, town wasnt doing anything about the virgin claim at all

And hope that you could allow Kaz and Lucas to cause mayhem day 2 once poisoner was revealed to exist

again, i was the first to even bring up killing him

Yes, for town credit.

if anything i can say ive done will just be "for town credit" idk what im supposed to say

8:08 p.m.

i couldve waited even just a day to get a poison on the FT before doing the poisoner sacc

Yeah you could of waited for that, but could you explain why I would want to be the target of the Virgin instead of Amne. Cause if I was demon why would I let myself possibly be exposed that early. Unless I was hoping to starpass to Stella (who I later voted out anyways, and you didn't)

Sorry I couldnt find the one I was looking for

let me look for idk something stett posted

Frankly Fish, I didn't even think you were evil until today splat

8:11 p.m.

So I didn't really have time to articulate a great argument

53R0 (Zero)

So I didn't really have time to articulate a great argument

How long do you have tonight

8:12 p.m.

Before you literaly need to do other things

Danger!? Luka!

How long do you have tonight

Not long

I have work early in the morning

i dont mean to pull a you but town cred?? id assume either A) you just didnt think youd be the one to become the target, which is true, or B) you wanted to cause a 1f1 between 2 evils and make one of you more confirmed, either confirming the poisoner and SW passing or confirming the demon with a poisoner sacc

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/41644-Season-10-Finale-Over-the-Owl-Falls-and-the-Dragonbender-of-Power-%28The-Mafia-Championship%29?p=7343215&highlight=case#post7343215 Ok this is a lot of post links but it is a case at the very least

Completed: Season 10, Finale: Over the Owl Falls and the Dragonbend...

#3002 Posted by: didistetter Ok. It is uhm. Not the easiest task for me to motivate myself to defend a player at a post count of (4), but I recognize I was being a tiiiiiny bit dramatic and didn’t have a great sense of time last night LOL. I think I was anticipating a lot more D2 SOD action b/c of the D1 flip, but we’re only 12 hours into a 48 ...

53R0 (Zero)

Not long

I have work early in the morning

How long in minutes

8:13 p.m.

?

Danger!? Luka!

How long do you have tonight

(i also dont have that much time btw i just woke a bit ago and i wanna play a game with some friends soon)

Danger!? Luka!

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/41644-Season-10-Finale-Over-the-Owl-Falls-and-the-Dragonbender-of-Power-%28The-Mafia-Championship%29?p=7343215&highlight=case#post7343215 Ok this is a lot of post links but it is a case at the very least

Is that ace attorney

but mines more lenient, i imagine

8:13 p.m.

omg its the guy hi amne

That_Amnesiac

Is that ace attorney

Stett is basically phoenix wright yeah

Danger!? Luka!

How long in minutes

An hour at most

53R0 (Zero)

An hour at most

Thats plenty of time to ctrl f fish

8:14 p.m.

And point out wolfy things

Okay, sure. I'll go ahead and do that. Also just for my own note, I usually talk myself into a corner due to forgetfulness so when free was on me I made false claims cause of that

8:16 p.m.

(earlier today*

That_Amnesiac

Is that ace attorney

WAmne

8:16 p.m.

Where are you leaning rn

8:17 p.m.

(Also, if you're mafia please vote and end the game. Not doing so is called "slow rolling" and it's usually against the rules.)

Danger!? Luka!

Austria - Soldier Allan - Ft ray/austria not imp Zero - chef 0 Kaz - undertaker [n1. lucas poison] Ray - invest | Stella / Austrai SW Lucas - virgin (Amnesiac Nominated) Amne - Lucas / Cheetah Stella - Ravenkeeper Luka - Monk Fish - Slayer Cheetah empath [n1. kaz/amne 1/+, n2. kaz/amne 0]

If it's Zero I'm literally a god at mafia btw

Danger!? Luka!

(Also, if you're mafia please vote and end the game. Not doing so is called "slow rolling" and it's usually against the rules.)

Please end our misery if you're actually mafia (you're not but)

Best player of all time

8:17 p.m.

GOated

i hate when i ctrl F someone and find something i usually associate with town im gonna cry

53R0 (Zero)

Please end our misery if you're actually mafia (you're not but)

It would be really funny if you are though curtain

Mr. Fish

i hate when i ctrl F someone and find something i usually associate with town im gonna cry

Well just know that it isn't coming from a town

Danger!? Luka!

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/41644-Season-10-Finale-Over-the-Owl-Falls-and-the-Dragonbender-of-Power-%28The-Mafia-Championship%29?p=7343215&highlight=case#post7343215 Ok this is a lot of post links but it is a case at the very least

For what its worth, theirs zero reason to put in this much effort

8:18 p.m.

but it does help to actually see reads

Danger!? Luka!

It would be really funny if you are though curtain

Luka I have objections

53R0 (Zero)

Luka I have objections

I hope its you since that means I played well

Danger!? Luka!

Well just know that it isn't coming from a town

yeah i mean i know he has to be demon because it just Cant Be Amne, but early on he misunderstood chef and i usually associate that with town because mafia will try to read the role and understand it to a T to fake it

It being fish means i only played ok

Mr. Fish

yeah i mean i know he has to be demon because it just Cant Be Amne, but early on he misunderstood chef and i usually associate that with town because mafia will try to read the role and understand it to a T to fake it

Does town not want to understand their role?

8:19 p.m.

Lmfao

i feel like in my experience town usually just messes it up more

8:19 p.m.

at least in the games i have played

8:19 p.m.

idk why

I mean, I will point out, my first post was me claiming

I feel like youre finding a reason to TR somebody that doesnt exist ~~And that person is in a cross with you~~

this is true zero, but you do in fact have bluffs

8:20 p.m.

granted you have LESS bluffs than you should but

8:20 p.m.

you do have them

8:20 p.m.

and chef is a role that makes sense to claim early

Mr. Fish

this is true zero, but you do in fact have bluffs

To be fair both of our roles can easily be bluffs

If I were the town in this position btw I wouldve already voted Zero since I think thats whedre I end up at EOD and I wouldnt want to waste time

8:20 p.m.

Lmfao

yeah, we are both spent too

Danger!? Luka!

If I were the town in this position btw I wouldve already voted Zero since I think thats whedre I end up at EOD and I wouldnt want to waste time

Zero soz you just feel very weak and stilted

8:21 p.m.

Meanwhile Fish is making moves and cases

8:21 p.m.

https://youtu.be/L3wKzyIN1yk?list=RDL3wKzyIN1yk

RagnBoneManVEVO

Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (Official Video)

ok dont give me THAT much credit i feel like im not making that many moves im TRYING but i dont feel good at it

Okay, I'mma ISO Fish rq.

Mr. Fish

ok dont give me THAT much credit i feel like im not making that many moves im TRYING but i dont feel good at it

I cant read people over discord everybody feels like theyre wolfing I just tihnk that youre townier than fish

8:21 p.m.

zero*

8:21 p.m.

fuck

8:21 p.m.

LMFAO

bros...

8:22 p.m.

can @That_Amnesiac join the discussion i do want to hear his thoughts

8:22 p.m.

he said 1 unrelated line and left its so sad

Important!!!: Reimu / Sayuka / Marisa / Cirno

8:22 p.m.

Pick one

Danger!? Luka!

Zero soz you just feel very weak and stilted

Luka you mentioned earlier that I wouldn't be putting that much effort as I would as I would as Mafia me would

if he is demon im actually gonna be so mad but i dont think i could fit a demon world with him if i tried

Sakuya*

and he would be Not Voting right now because ???

I'm discussing the best plan to murder everyone else with spells in an unrelated game

53R0 (Zero)

Luka you mentioned earlier that I wouldn't be putting that much effort as I would as I would as Mafia me would

Yeah but you still feel weak

8:23 p.m.

It feels like youre very awkward

Danger!? Luka!

Important!!!: Reimu / Sayuka / Marisa / Cirno

are these touhou characters

Mr. Fish

are these touhou characters

Yes and pick one plz

i dont know these names

8:23 p.m.

uhhh

8:23 p.m.

reimu is the red one i think??

Yes

8:23 p.m.

Reimu is the shrinemaiden

i like reimu

Cirno is the ice fairy

8:23 p.m.

Sakuya is the maid

8:23 p.m.

Marisa is the magician

im actually so surprised i got that

Amne, just vote for me. Let Fish have the win atp, I give up.

Mr. Fish

i like reimu

Ok

that was a shot in the dark

53R0 (Zero)

Amne, just vote for me. Let Fish have the win atp, I give up.

i dont think its that overwhelmingly against you

53R0 (Zero)

Amne, just vote for me. Let Fish have the win atp, I give up.

I mean

8:24 p.m.

@That_Amnesiac I would accept the offer

Mr. Fish

i dont think its that overwhelmingly against you

It isnt

8:24 p.m.

You guys have the same mech evidence against you

i feel bad if youre actually giving up but this could also be a double bluff

Its just that I think that youre actively trying to see the other is evil and Zero just kinda

8:24 p.m.

gave up

8:24 p.m.

they're not really trying

Mr. Fish

i feel bad if youre actually giving up but this could also be a double bluff

If theyre mafia it's always a double bluff lol

8:24 p.m.

and I think that asking to be voted in f3 is borderline throwiong as town

8:25 p.m.

And I dont think that Zero does thatr

8:25 p.m.

Danger!? Luka!

and I think that asking to be voted in f3 is borderline throwiong as town

Well then I threw

i still wish we had dead votes because final 3 is so much cooler with them

53R0 (Zero)

Well then I threw

I dont believe u

we dont have the same voting system here but i love the dynamics of the clockhand voting and dead votes

Clockhand is a dumb system anyways

WRONG

8:26 p.m.

clockhand is so fun

8:26 p.m.

why dont you like it

I love the game being decided at the start with no player or host input

8:26 p.m.

8:26 p.m.

It also just doesnt work longform

8:26 p.m.

lol

its a cool unique voting system i dont think its that bad

@53R0 (Zero) fwiw I think that regardless of alignemnt you have played rly wwell I just dont think I could convince myself that Fish is wolf with their posting rn and with yours

8:28 p.m.

It's not up to me though, it's up to Amne lol

8:28 p.m.

Getting that dejected when I'm accusing you (not amne) also feels wolfy

8:28 p.m.

I think that you're very cute and fun to play with

8:28 p.m.

And I can see worlds where you flip village

8:28 p.m.

I just dont think it's that likely

can you please stop flirting in final 3

Mr. Fish

can you please stop flirting in final 3

lmao

Luka, believe me when I say this. I hate being in F3 situations. Though if I have to do this then I will. Fish you played a really good UTR game, where you were never suspected until basically yesterday, where I have been in heat ever since day 2. If you understand the pressure that comes from that and then having everyone turn against you again it's dejecting. But realistically, the only defense as town that I have is that I wouldn't try so hard to put up a fight until just now.

I 100% believe you hate being in F3 situations

8:32 p.m.

I just dont know how much that means

Realistically, I was hoping me confirming Amne as good today would prove I was town by gambling my vote. Though realistically, I guess I could of done that as a way to put Amne on the spot...

I also believe that

i do want to say that i think if you WERE town, voting me immediately was probably not the best move and thats another thing im gonna link to you being scum. you didnt take the time to see if there were worlds where i was poisoned/drunk/amneswpassed

8:36 p.m.

and sorry for jumpscaring with that while we were talking about F3 struggles, they are real and it can be a bit stressful

Mr. Fish

i do want to say that i think if you WERE town, voting me immediately was probably not the best move and thats another thing im gonna link to you being scum. you didnt take the time to see if there were worlds where i was poisoned/drunk/amneswpassed

Fish you already cleared Amne, from your POV there's no way me voting for Amne early.

8:36 p.m.

Would be a bad thing

8:37 p.m.

Voting for you sorry*

at this point he isnt scum

53R0 (Zero)

Fish you already cleared Amne, from your POV there's no way me voting for Amne early.

im just saying if you were town, which you are not, then voting that quick without even considering possible moves is pretty scummy

]

8:37 p.m.

possible worlds**

Mr. Fish

im just saying if you were town, which you are not, then voting that quick without even considering possible moves is pretty scummy

I did consider possible moves, and I detirmed that Amne couldn't be scum atp

8:38 p.m.

So I gamble voted

maybe i skimmed too fast

8:38 p.m.

imma go reread early day

8:38 p.m.

ill link what i was talking about

I didn't voice them, but I definitely thought Amne wasn't scum

8:39 p.m.

Especially when everyone was saying Amne was scum early day

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1295056613937254493 this is when you voted me, if you look up a bit, you didnt even once talk about any possible worlds of me being town, which should still be an option if youre town

Fish

It wouldn't be a world if you cleared amne.

Youve only played one game on here before

8:40 p.m.

aside from the org

8:40 p.m.

and it was that sucm game yeah?

yeah but i couldve been poisoned or anything in theory

8:41 p.m.

and yes luka

Mr. Fish

yeah but i couldve been poisoned or anything in theory

No

That game you sounded depressingly like an outed wolf this game you sound like me when im wolf which is twony

There was no chance of you being poisoned atp

53R0 (Zero)

No

Im sure you can construct a free + amnesiac +1 world cheetah drunk free poisoner you poisoned n1 fish poisoned n3

53R0 (Zero)

No

drunk, SW pass. either way im not saying those happened because they obviously didnt, but the fact you didnt CONSIDER it is what makes it bad to me imo

Just spitballing

i mean i already know youre scum (in an ingame way) i just want to point out scummy things like that from my view, obviously.

8:42 p.m.

you spent all of 5 minutes mentioning that i confirmed amne and then didnt think past it

8:42 p.m.

which if you were town is very bad, and looks like youre just trying to get a quick lynch

Danger!? Luka!

That game you sounded depressingly like an outed wolf this game you sound like me when im wolf which is twony

i have no clue what you mean my friend

I feel like I'm watching a college student bully a toddler

Mr. Fish

i have no clue what you mean my friend

Im saying last wolf game you sounded like a wolf This game you sound like me when im wolfing = town

ahh i see

Well at least when this game is over, people will know my town meta is like this.

53R0 (Zero)

Well at least when this game is over, people will know my town meta is like this.

True, bright side

8:44 p.m.

It also means I dont have to open DM for another 5 months

8:44 p.m.

Why don't I?

?

Oh wait why don't you?

Yes

ive lost the plot

I dont lol

oh cause you only join the funny modes

8:45 p.m.

i imagine

Mr. Fish

oh cause you only join the funny modes

Its more as though because I hate mafia

lol

My favorite setup is mountanious

8:45 p.m.

lmfao

Well feel free to DM me anytime Luka

idk what that is

53R0 (Zero)

Well feel free to DM me anytime Luka

Genuinly rly sorry if youre town

8:45 p.m.

I feel as though Fish if theyre wolf is just posting v v well this f3

please stop flirting in final 3 i feel very left out

Mr. Fish

idk what that is

Pure vanilla

8:45 p.m.

No power roles

This is hell, and I've been in this situation before and I've given up both times lol

8:46 p.m.

Both times I was town

53R0 (Zero)

This is hell, and I've been in this situation before and I've given up both times lol

Can you show me the other team

8:46 p.m.

im gonna be real i end up in final 3 in like 80% of my botc games

8:46 p.m.

i feel like its a curse

8:46 p.m.

or just how i play

Mr. Fish

im gonna be real i end up in final 3 in like 80% of my botc games

Danger!? Luka!

Can you show me the other team

It's not in archives pretty sure... this was back before I up and dissapeared for 2 years-ish

The right is the cycle I die

Danger!? Luka!

Click to see attachment 🖼️

is this your spreadsheet

53R0 (Zero)

It's not in archives pretty sure... this was back before I up and dissapeared for 2 years-ish

Sadcat

Mr. Fish

is this your spreadsheet

Its MUs, it automatically tracks victories / times you die / games ect

8:47 p.m.

Ive been getting killed v early recently

is the Night 1 and stuff when you die?

Yes

that is UNfortunate

No its fortunate, means I dont h ave to play the game

i should add a checkbox for "final 3?" in my botc spreadsheet

I do really want to point out tho, I find it kind of bonkers that only the town is even participating in the last 2 days

what do you mean?

8:49 p.m.

living players?

Whoops

53R0 (Zero)

I do really want to point out tho, I find it kind of bonkers that only the town is even participating in the last 2 days

I mean

8:49 p.m.

Its DM

looks like i died

8:49 p.m.

You can expect about half of a table to do nothing in a given game

I want full marks (Cheetah)

looks like i died

Hi Cheetah, Amne's confirmed good. It's between me and Fish

this is true

53R0 (Zero)

Hi Cheetah, Amne's confirmed good. It's between me and Fish

i have no vote

8:50 p.m.

But whatever sure

you have your WORDS!!!

the game hasnt ended so its between you two

Mr. Fish

you have your WORDS!!!

i have no votes but i must speak

8:50 p.m.

thats you

8:51 p.m.

the hit short story by Harlem Edison

?? What are you on about

im just referencing the short story "i have no mouth but i must scream" it was a bad joke

8:52 p.m.

its actually and i must scream

8:52 p.m.

i even fucked it up...

Either way, I really do apologize for your scum team Fish. You got stuck with a rogue Poisoner, and then Stella who did make some moves to try to pin it on Kaz, then up and dissapeared on you.

i like how we are both saying the exact same evil team just swapping the demon

8:53 p.m.

this really is just the same evidence mechanically

what were both ofyour roles, again

slayer

I'm chef with a 0

and chef

BREAKING ANNOUNCEMENT

@Danger!? Luka! is the IMP WHO STARPASSED, FOOLING ALL OF U MORTALS

i shot amne so

slayer is easier to fake

also based?

I want full marks (Cheetah)

what were both ofyour roles, again

Most informed towny

I want full marks (Cheetah)

slayer is easier to fake

What

8:54 p.m.

1. Evils have bluffs, even if that was true that means nothing

8:54 p.m.

2. Thats not true

8:54 p.m.

i know im a bit biased here in that im the slayer but really we are both spent roles and idk theyre kinda on the same level of difficulty id argue

Danger!? Luka!

1. Evils have bluffs, even if that was true that means nothing

oh they get bluff info too?

evils get 2 bluffs

I want full marks (Cheetah)

oh they get bluff info too?

Cheetah

8:55 p.m.

Cheetah...

which means theoretically 1 double claim

I DONT PLAY BOTC

Cheetah forgor

hence me trying to bait for double claims

I want full marks (Cheetah)

I DONT PLAY BOTC

CHEETAH WEVE BEEN IN THIS GAME FOR OVER A WEEK

8:55 p.m.

lmao

8:56 p.m.

cheeta there have been no double claims

8:56 p.m.

i KNOW they getrolebluffs not in game

8:56 p.m.

but do they get info too

I want full marks (Cheetah)

but do they get info too

No

Ohn

oh, no they dont

no

8:56 p.m.

they dont

8:56 p.m.

LMFAO

8:56 p.m.

They know the exact grim tho

8:56 p.m.

So

8:56 p.m.

like

cheeta are you saying that

Danger!? Luka!

They know the exact grim tho

No they don't

zeros chef info is right because of a bluff

53R0 (Zero)

No they don't

Tmi

That aside, I mean they know the locations of evils

because no its just right cause he sees the evils

8:57 p.m.

for chef purpose

Right, also tmi?? We're at the point of the game where everyone should understand that

was lucas’ bluff virgin or something because why would you otherwise claim a role that is centered around lynching

8:59 p.m.

Joke

8:59 p.m.

hence the

53R0 (Zero)

Right, also tmi?? We're at the point of the game where everyone should understand that

ok but they dont

8:59 p.m.

thats why its being explained

I want full marks (Cheetah)

was lucas’ bluff virgin or something because why would you otherwise claim a role that is centered around lynching

Lucas POV: https://youtu.be/L3wKzyIN1yk

RagnBoneManVEVO

Rag'n'Bone Man - Human (Official Video)

9:00 p.m.

Good players fake claim virgin all of the time fwiw

9:00 p.m.

Gets you a free mischop maybe

unironically yes, we dont have an ST so it was probably a randomized virgin bluff that he saw and full sent it early

I want full marks (Cheetah)

was lucas’ bluff virgin or something because why would you otherwise claim a role that is centered around lynching

My guess is the Bluffs were Virgin and Ravenkeeper, and Fish waited to claim until the last second to ensure there wasn't a double claim

53R0 (Zero)

My guess is the Bluffs were Virgin and Ravenkeeper, and Fish waited to claim until the last second to ensure there wasn't a double claim

This is your first real accusation and its a pretty damned solid one too

9:00 p.m.

Only problem is

9:00 p.m.

@Mr. Fish you play botc a lot right

yes

9:00 p.m.

kinda

9:01 p.m.

more than everyone here probably?

Mr. Fish

more than everyone here probably?

Except me

9:01 p.m.

But yes

i play it in bunches

9:01 p.m.

yeah except you i imagine

Amne does saa wel

Danger!? Luka!

Only problem is

Ok no problem its just a good accusation

oh yeah amne does i forgot

9:01 p.m.

yeah it is a good accusation

I tihnk the tides shifted from 10% you town to 13% you trown

ive already stated it but ill say it again, i saw evil had -1 bluff:evil ratio and i wanted to wait for a double claim

9:02 p.m.

granted it never came

Only problem is Fish, despite you wanting people to not claim you "waited" for a double claim. You basically ensured you'd give yourself a role that was unconfirmable to ensure nobody would suspect you until later. My info was instant, and it caused quite the discourse.

https://youtu.be/L3wKzyIN1yko y70/\

9:04 p.m.

ignore that

53R0 (Zero)

Only problem is Fish, despite you wanting people to not claim you "waited" for a double claim. You basically ensured you'd give yourself a role that was unconfirmable to ensure nobody would suspect you until later. My info was instant, and it caused quite the discourse.

yeah, slayer doesnt really need to claim until it shoots typically, i didnt want people to claim because i didnt want evil to essentially have a spy, and i was fine holding my claim pretty late if necessary, to when a slayer may actually claim

i was hitting my keyboard randomly for fun

atp is there even a world where im not an alcoholic

Mr. Fish

yeah, slayer doesnt really need to claim until it shoots typically, i didnt want people to claim because i didnt want evil to essentially have a spy, and i was fine holding my claim pretty late if necessary, to when a slayer may actually claim

At least in my BOTC expirence, Demons will pick a role that won't get them immeditely outed unless they were ballsy. Me being a spent role, I wanted to die constantly early on (read my logs)

53R0 (Zero)

At least in my BOTC expirence, Demons will pick a role that won't get them immeditely outed unless they were ballsy. Me being a spent role, I wanted to die constantly early on (read my logs)

idk i feel like with all of the roles and discourse going on, there wasnt much reason for us to kill a random chef which is also evident in the fact youre alive. wanting to die can be safe if it isnt likely to happen, and i have done it plenty in actual games. you also had an SW for backup

Mr. Fish

idk i feel like with all of the roles and discourse going on, there wasnt much reason for us to kill a random chef which is also evident in the fact youre alive. wanting to die can be safe if it isnt likely to happen, and i have done it plenty in actual games. you also had an SW for backup

That same scarlet woman you never sus'ed (or voted) for that matter

chef has n0 info only, slayer becomes useless once they use ability

yeah im gonna be real that was mostly due to my inactivity during those days i dont have much defense there

there are reasons going for why its you two that are alive rn if youre town

9:08 p.m.

but one of you ofc isnt

9:08 p.m.

I unfortunately am out of time, my hour is up

9:09 p.m.

I gotta get ready for work in the morning D:

i will see you around my good friend zero

the thing is

9:09 p.m.

even if i am an alcoholic theres a chance i have correct ingo

9:09 p.m.

info

9:09 p.m.

kaz died

9:09 p.m.

free died

9:09 p.m.

whos above me now

9:10 p.m.

fish

the reason i think youre drunk is a poisoner was dead and you got what i assume to be fake info

9:10 p.m.

at first i was thinking any of x x and x people (i forgor who) could be drunk but idk your N3 info kinda yells drunk to me

Or free was recluse but obviously recluse should claim to avoid confusion

9:11 p.m.

so i think there is no world where im not drunk

i mean yeah 98% chance of the outsider being drunk with the 2% being either lucas is real or town is throwing by not claiming

9:13 p.m.

and i think its you because of your N3 info

Mr. Fish

i mean yeah 98% chance of the outsider being drunk with the 2% being either lucas is real or town is throwing by not claiming

if lucas was real whyd amne die

9:15 p.m.

amne is now confirmed

9:15 p.m.

*not die

I want full marks (Cheetah)

if lucas was real whyd amne die

i didnt say he was real???

you said 2% included lucas real

9:28 p.m.

but lucas real ain’t possible

ok well that was my way of saying one of the only ways of it not being a drunk is if he is real

9:28 p.m.

i didnt say it was likely at all lol

its outright impossible, game didnt end so amne is good

true!

I want full marks (Cheetah)

its outright impossible, game didnt end so amne is good

Helli

10:31 a.m.

Hello

10:32 a.m.

Please do tell me what info did you get by lynching me (you were talking bout getting a lot of info or smth)

53R0 (Zero)

My guess is the Bluffs were Virgin and Ravenkeeper, and Fish waited to claim until the last second to ensure there wasn't a double claim

Yeah but stella claimed rk very late tho

Mr. Fish

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1295056613937254493 this is when you voted me, if you look up a bit, you didnt even once talk about any possible worlds of me being town, which should still be an option if youre town

Ehh

10:45 a.m.

the heck

10:48 a.m.

Zero's info clears amne since they are next to Stella and you basically cleared amne too from being a demon So from both of ur pov, amne can't be the demon so why would he talk about you being town despairge

Free's Main

Please do tell me what info did you get by lynching me (you were talking bout getting a lot of info or smth)

It basically proved that Cheetah was drunk, which closed the possibility of Amne being demon in every world

53R0 (Zero)

It basically proved that Cheetah was drunk, which closed the possibility of Amne being demon in every world

Aren't both urs and fish's info already clearing amn3?

Free's Main

Aren't both urs and fish's info already clearing amn3?

Mine didn't cause at the time I thought I was the drunk and Cheetah was actually sober and poisoned n0

11:01 a.m.

Theoretically if I didn't think that, then yes, Amne would of been cleared

53R0 (Zero)

Mine didn't cause at the time I thought I was the drunk and Cheetah was actually sober and poisoned n0

But still fish info clears em, and everyone was already under the opinion that there was only 1 scum left so fish and amne can't be paired

Free's Main

But still fish info clears em, and everyone was already under the opinion that there was only 1 scum left so fish and amne can't be paired

We weren't completely convinced (I wasn't) but to be quite frank we both should of investigated Fish more yesterday instead of me causing a thunderdome. I apologize for that

I was asking cheetah anyway

11:08 a.m.

But yeah fine

Free's Main

Please do tell me what info did you get by lynching me (you were talking bout getting a lot of info or smth)

I’m basically conf drunk now, verifying zeros info unless ofc he is evil

hhhhhmmmm

1:03 p.m.

The thing is

1:04 p.m.

If fish was evil and shoots me

1:04 p.m.

There's like no way I make it to final 4

1:04 p.m.

3

1:04 p.m.

Either they kill me or they send their demon to do it

That_Amnesiac

Either they kill me or they send their demon to do it

Why would they kill you?

1:09 p.m.

There's no incentive to kill you over Cheetah

Well they had 2 night kills after fish shot I'm p sure

1:11 p.m.

It's odd to leave a confirmed not demon alive esp when an evil is doing the confirming

That_Amnesiac

It's odd to leave a confirmed not demon alive esp when an evil is doing the confirming

Well think about it this way

Oh sorry I lost service after I said that lol

That_Amnesiac

It's odd to leave a confirmed not demon alive esp when an evil is doing the confirming

But what I was going to say was, why would Fish want to kill you? If they tried to lynch you yesterday that would of been dumb, and Cheetah was confirmed empath. As they mentioned before they wanted me to think that you were the demon and Fish was town

1:26 p.m.

(yes read Fish's logs they stated me not talking about why you weren't demon was Sus as fuc)

1:26 p.m.

They are basically hoping by not killing you, that you'd give them the benefit of the doubt, while framing me

TLDR: Fish had no motive to kill you, because they had Free and Cheetah to freely kill without much input

That_Amnesiac

It's odd to leave a confirmed not demon alive esp when an evil is doing the confirming

Cheetah was the most obvious town ive ever seen in a game of mafia

1:54 p.m.

They werent being ML

1:54 p.m.

d

1:54 p.m.

Same with Kazuma, I came out of the night with Kazuma + Cheetah as my two TRs

1:54 p.m.

Those kills are optimal

So even though Fish "cleared" you of being demon. 1) They were forced to "shoot" you during the Stella day. Which caused the entire day to become Me vs Free when we both should of not of tunneled to far. 2) Killing anyone other than Cheetah would of been gamethrowing as they were basically confirmed town by being the drunk. 3) Again, to frame me because I was the only person who could of had two demons "suspects" but in reality it was only Fish.

1:57 p.m.

Also to note, Fish was not involved in the free debate at fucking all. They stayed out of it so they could allow me to take all the heat today

Oh great leaving it to amne to be the tie breaker...

3:16 p.m.

Please amne make the right choice

3:17 p.m.

From what it seems like there is only one evil left

@That_Amnesiac who are you leaning

3:17 p.m.

currently

Your apperantly clear. I have nothing on fish and zero

I mean like

3:17 p.m.

I was about to vote

LIKE I HAVE THE COMMAND TYPED

aye

3:18 p.m.

I was gonna vote fish because like I just want it to be over and zero feels better

That_Amnesiac

I was gonna vote fish because like I just want it to be over and zero feels better

uh huh

3:21 p.m.

did fish even talk much

Not really

That_Amnesiac

I was gonna vote fish because like I just want it to be over and zero feels better

just want it to be over isnt the solution COPIUM

Its a 50/50 at worst

uh huh

3:23 p.m.

@Mr. Fish

Free's Main

just want it to be over isnt the solution COPIUM

I also don't want the day to end while I'm asleep

3:23 p.m.

And not voting

3:23 p.m.

So it coinflios

Are you that sure bout fish being scum?

3:24 p.m.

No but I'm not not sure

still think its zero over fish but w/e

That_Amnesiac

I was gonna vote fish because like I just want it to be over and zero feels better

Free's Main

still think its zero over fish but w/e

Sames

Free's Main

did fish even talk much

Yes we have an entire argument

53R0 (Zero)

Also to note, Fish was not involved in the free debate at fucking all. They stayed out of it so they could allow me to take all the heat today

what free debate?

Free's Main

Zero's info clears amne since they are next to Stella and you basically cleared amne too from being a demon So from both of ur pov, amne can't be the demon so why would he talk about you being town despairge

yeah, i get it, i just felt like voting that quickly wouldnt have made much sense, is what it is i suppose.

Mr. Fish

what free debate?

The entire... Thunderdome? You didn't get involved while Amne and Cheetah did

53R0 (Zero)

The entire... Thunderdome? You didn't get involved while Amne and Cheetah did

yeah i have no clue what youre on about so youre probably right that i completely missed it

4:14 p.m.

was this today or like, not

Mr. Fish

was this today or like, not

This was yesterday

5:00 p.m.

In game*

53R0 (Zero)

So even though Fish "cleared" you of being demon. 1) They were forced to "shoot" you during the Stella day. Which caused the entire day to become Me vs Free when we both should of not of tunneled to far. 2) Killing anyone other than Cheetah would of been gamethrowing as they were basically confirmed town by being the drunk. 3) Again, to frame me because I was the only person who could of had two demons "suspects" but in reality it was only Fish.

1/2 are both good points

8:01 p.m.

They arent towny points for Zero but theyre good points

That_Amnesiac

Not really

Have you read anything today

8:01 p.m.

Lol

@That_Amnesiac no rush but vote before eod not voting is always worse for town

8:41 p.m.

regardless of if you vote right or wrong

I mean it's a tiebreaker vote

8:42 p.m.

Not like

8:42 p.m.

It's rng ties

8:43 p.m.

Is what I mean

Danger!? Luka!

@That_Amnesiac no rush but vote before eod not voting is always worse for town

I think I'm just going to vote fish

then do it

I'M PRAYING

unless you think your mind may change

Son, father and holy spirit, please allow my vote in this social deduction game to be correct.

11:06 p.m.

so guys the game is over

11:06 p.m.

I was the demon

11:06 p.m.

(For legal reasons this is a joke)

@Lunexia

I MURDERED SOMEONE

just stop talking pls .-.

eod?

star

eod?

Yes

11:09 p.m.

lock

eog

pls

Post Game

Lunexia pinned a message to this channel. 2024-10-15 5:10 a.m.

Was a cool game for sure

5:11 a.m.

ggs

I carried so hard

@That_Amnesiac ok but you voting me despite some dead thinking it was zero was kinda based ngl

poisoner faking virgin

5:20 a.m.

was that a part of ur plan?

Free's Main

was that a part of ur plan?

no

5:21 a.m.

he asked pregame if he needed to survive

5:21 a.m.

i said yes

5:21 a.m.

he was like aw dangit

5:21 a.m.

i wake up and he claimed virgin

he then also wanted to kill kaz

5:21 a.m.

which i said no to because itd cause confusion in thinking kaz was poisoned

5:21 a.m.

then when people thought kaz was poisoned he said his plan worked

5:22 a.m.

and im like bro that was MY plan you were saying NOT to do it

5:22 a.m.

he also said he wouldnt die D1 and died D1 so i mean

5:22 a.m.

granted i started the push

5:22 a.m.

soo

Mr. Fish

i wake up and he claimed virgin

5:23 a.m.

GG id never have voted you there

Kazuma

GG id never have voted you there

if dead votes existed i won that, ngl

5:25 a.m.

since i had 2 or 3 towns on my side + evils

5:25 a.m.

gg though gamers

5:26 a.m.

i think its UBER based voting me despite multiple town trusting me though

5:26 a.m.

especially cause it won the game

5:27 a.m.

well not "trusting" me but placing an imaginary vote on zero

Kazuma

GG id never have voted you there

oh same

5:29 a.m.

I was convinced that zero was demon

5:30 a.m.

after yesterday

5:33 a.m.

sure, there's a slight possibility where I can be the demon(with me as sw, stella as demon and I put em in my own pings, cheetah being poisoned n0 and zero being drunk) but but it matters whether you believe it or not and I thought zero as town would notice it

5:33 a.m.

and thought that fish was just a town who didnt care bout the game

Free's Main

and thought that fish was just a town who didnt care bout the game

i kinda started being IA cause of IRL stuff

5:40 a.m.

so uh my bad lol

lol

5:51 a.m.

its true

imagine if there was a recluse/saint or heck even another virgin claim

5:52 a.m.

iirc lucas wanted a cc

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301443126984735/1295675284691095552 Skull

5:54 a.m.

@I want full marks (Cheetah) you never existed

Technically I’m outsider not village

6:06 a.m.

Aayy W

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Technically I’m outsider not village

you still win

6:07 a.m.

tho

We will these

6:07 a.m.

*win

Free's Main

Nvm Fish would know cheetah is drunk if both Kaz and amne are town So yeah he couldve tried framing amne by asking him to hammer Lucas catsit

(still dk why he would sacrifice the poisoner tho)

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1294533932863197184 well uh I didnt think you would push poisoner like that mb

‍♂️

Free's Main

you still win

@Lunexia

Free's Main

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1294533932863197184 well uh I didnt think you would push poisoner like that mb

‍♂️

well i figured he already claimed, i might as well make plays off it

6:12 a.m.

i kinda assumed people wouldnt think the person starting a push on the virgin/poisoner is a demon

iirc you were the first one suggesting to use virgin's ability on d1

ye

6:12 a.m.

i was

I want full marks (Cheetah)

Technically I’m outsider not village

Outsiders are villagers

6:13 a.m.

6:14 a.m.

Forgot to add you

6:14 a.m.

oopsie

Oof

@That_Amnesiac

@Danger!? Luka! I was town

7:08 a.m.

Take that

Swurtle Moment... but it's less so...

Free's Main

@That_Amnesiac

oh huh, old roll

Cute gg

10:20 a.m.

@That_Amnesiac Carried

53R0 (Zero)

@Danger!? Luka! I was town

@Lunexia thx for hosting super fun

Danger!? Luka!

@Lunexia thx for hosting super fun

Glad you enjoyed it splat

10:53 a.m.

Everyone said it was going to be a nightmare and incredibly unfun before it started

10:53 a.m.

10:53 a.m.

Lunexia

Everyone said it was going to be a nightmare and incredibly unfun before it started

I do think the setup has some problems but I think that it was very fun to play even w/ those problems into account and it clearly took a lot of effort so ty

10:56 a.m.

@Lunexia soz for double ping is wolf chat gonna be opened

Danger!? Luka!

@Lunexia soz for double ping is wolf chat gonna be opened

#sp56-info

10:57 a.m.

?

10:57 a.m.

reading is hard ig

10:57 a.m.

10:58 a.m.

Danger!? Luka!

I do think the setup has some problems but I think that it was very fun to play even w/ those problems into account and it clearly took a lot of effort so ty

I agree that some things could be better

10:59 a.m.

Changelog

Chef: Change exact pairs to "0 or 1, 2 or 3, 4 or more pairs" results (aka 3 different results with multiple brackets)
Empath: Change to see Town/Not town, aka outsiders trigger "you do not sit next to two town players", rather than "you sit next to one or more evil players"
Recluse: Change librarian interaction in case recluse is the only outsider role in play.
Spy: May use the ability of the spy bluff? May check a player and learn their role each night? Both?!
Virgin: If hammered, the demon may attack two players during the next night.

10:59 a.m.

I made some notes

Lunexia

Click to see attachment 🖼️

Yeah sorry I'm illiterate

Lunexia

Changelog

Chef: Change exact pairs to "0 or 1, 2 or 3, 4 or more pairs" results (aka 3 different results with multiple brackets)
Empath: Change to see Town/Not town, aka outsiders trigger "you do not sit next to two town players", rather than "you sit next to one or more evil players"
Recluse: Change librarian interaction in case recluse is the only outsider role in play.
Spy: May use the ability of the spy bluff? May check a player and learn their role each night? Both?!
Virgin: If hammered, the demon may attack two players during the next night.

I dont see a washerwoman buff on here

I dont think washerwoman needs one

10:59 a.m.

Lunexia

I dont think washerwoman needs one

I can get the same info as washerwoman 80% of the time by using random.org curtain

that was THE HARDEST game of clocktower I have ever played I was actually sweating

Lunexia

Changelog

Chef: Change exact pairs to "0 or 1, 2 or 3, 4 or more pairs" results (aka 3 different results with multiple brackets)
Empath: Change to see Town/Not town, aka outsiders trigger "you do not sit next to two town players", rather than "you sit next to one or more evil players"
Recluse: Change librarian interaction in case recluse is the only outsider role in play.
Spy: May use the ability of the spy bluff? May check a player and learn their role each night? Both?!
Virgin: If hammered, the demon may attack two players during the next night.

So explain again why is Virgin outsider? I never did understand that

2:29 p.m.

(Could of barrowed an outsider from Sects and Violets)

53R0 (Zero)

So explain again why is Virgin outsider? I never did understand that

I think because butler is hard to run

3:10 p.m.

And also

3:10 p.m.

What replaced virgin

3:11 p.m.

Like was there just no replacement

That_Amnesiac

Like was there just no replacement

There was no replacement

LUKA!!!! bruh i swear XD

4:21 p.m.

LUKA WAS THE MONK?!?

4:21 p.m.

Luka did you replace in for someone? If so who?

4:23 p.m.

no you didnt

4:23 p.m.

Why didnt you protect me luka?

allan gamesyt

Luka did you replace in for someone? If so who?

Yes

4:41 p.m.

I did

4:41 p.m.

Coal

allan gamesyt

Why didnt you protect me luka?

I wasnt in the game

4:41 p.m.

If I was in the game we wouldve never rolecalled lol

4:42 p.m.

If this game was lost it wouldve been due to town rolecalling imho

Ah so coal costed me my life this game ok

4:44 p.m.

Oh well. At least we won

Mmhm

4:45 p.m.

I probably did fine this game, insofar if I hadn't subbed in evils wouldve won. Couldve played better tho

allan gamesyt

Ah so coal costed me my life this game ok

i will say there were a good chunk of targets for monk buuuut i wasnt one of them lol