




Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy.
Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy. 
Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy.
I got that confused


Recluse
You are seen as evil during investigations.
You cannot show up in the Washerwoman's results.
You cannot show up in the Librarian's results.
You can show up as a random Minion role to the Investigator, except for the Spy role.
You will add additional evil pairings in the chef's results if you are seated next to evil players.
You can make an empath think he is seated next to an evil player.
You always show up as the Demon to the Fortune Teller.
You show up as a random Minion role to the Undertaker.
When targeted by the Ravenkeeper, you will be announced as the Demon.
If you are poisoned, then all of these effects are disabled during that night and the following day.




I've played BOTC before as evil and it's a actually pretty good to not stick to your bluffs as you can make people reveal things they normally wouldn't







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Coal, Fish, Lucas, Cheetah, Stella

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Coal, Fish, Lucas, Cheetah, Stella 





You cannot be killed by the Demon.
You can die to the Demon if you are poisoned that night.
@Lucas Lin 703 for Soldier
kaz - undertaker
cheetah -
amnesiac - washerwoman
stella -

Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy.
I learned that, but thank you for the reminder
I learned that, but thank you for the reminder 


Though that number does go up if we hit a minion so, it does help to hunt them too
why is virgin an outside wtf, it confirms 2 people 
why is virgin an outside wtf, it confirms 2 people

But back to topic, I feel like there's something fishy going on (sorry couldn't help the pun.)
I'm almost certain that at least 1-2 of the public claims so far aren't real. Also if Amne saw drunk does that mean we have baron??
But back to topic, I feel like there's something fishy going on (sorry couldn't help the pun.)
I'm almost certain that at least 1-2 of the public claims so far aren't real. Also if Amne saw drunk does that mean we have baron??
I keep forgetting Lune changes it
So we need to play around that
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Actually Scarlet woman could make that play as well
Okay this is fucking weird. Both Kaz and Cheetah say they were poisoned.
That would mean Cheetah was poisoned n0
And then Kaz n1
Okay this is fucking weird. Both Kaz and Cheetah say they were poisoned.
That would mean Cheetah was poisoned n0
And then Kaz n1 
Both of you can't be evil because of my chef info, unless ofc you're spy
Both of you can't be evil because of my chef info, unless ofc you're spy 




Virgin
The first time you would die to being voted out by majority, the player hammering you will die instead, if that player has a Town role.
If your ability kills someone, then all votes on you will be reset and the day continues (if necessary, with an extension to the day timer equivalent to how long the players thought the day had ended).
If the hammering player is not a Town role, you die.
If you were poisoned during the previous night, then your ability will not activate and you will die when hammered.
Virgin
The first time you would die to being voted out by majority, the player hammering you will die instead, if that player has a Town role.
If your ability kills someone, then all votes on you will be reset and the day continues (if necessary, with an extension to the day timer equivalent to how long the players thought the day had ended).
If the hammering player is not a Town role, you die.
If you were poisoned during the previous night, then your ability will not activate and you will die when hammered.
But to be completely fair, is it possible Kaz isn't actually poisoned and this was actually a ploy to kill Amne lol
Though that does feel wrong, it's probably at least good to consider all possibilities even if they are unlikely
We should at least try to maybe explore something other than Amne.
Plus we don't even have all the info
We should at least try to maybe explore something other than Amne.
Plus we don't even have all the info


can you all stop talking for like 5 minutes while I type up a world?
Well I guess I'm going for this world then.
Lucas claimed Virgin as that was one of the bluffs, but didn't realize Virgin wants to die D1.
They poisoned Cheetah night 0, and they ended up getting wrong information.
Amne is possibly the drunk (or hell maybe I could be).
Allen in almost every world is good due to dying so early. I don't see any reason to star pass as imp when you clearly have a game plan of executing Amne quickly.
So in all:
Cheetah is likely poisoned n1 by Lucas who got a wrong ping of 1.
Lucas's neighbors aren't evil in most circumstances.
Kaz's information would technically be correct if Lucas is evil because poisoner is just Dead
So honestly, the evils are between Stella / Fish / Coal / Sprig
and if we wanna a tiny crazy. Cheetah lol.
Because if Lucas is Evil, we know the minions are Scarlet Woman and Poisoner
There are 0 pairs of evils which means if Lucas is evil then Free and Kaz are town.
Amne is also "confirmed" due to Cheetah and this entire thing. Amne also confirmed Cheetah due to their info.
Allen's targets... I forgot but I believe who I mentioned can still be minions if not demons?
Just thinking mechanically Amne has to many things going for them to be evil
Well to bad
Well I guess I'm going for this world then.
Lucas claimed Virgin as that was one of the bluffs, but didn't realize Virgin wants to die D1.
They poisoned Cheetah night 0, and they ended up getting wrong information.
Amne is possibly the drunk (or hell maybe I could be).
Allen in almost every world is good due to dying so early. I don't see any reason to star pass as imp when you clearly have a game plan of executing Amne quickly.
So in all:
Cheetah is likely poisoned n1 by Lucas who got a wrong ping of 1.
Lucas's neighbors aren't evil in most circumstances.
Kaz's information would technically be correct if Lucas is evil because poisoner is just Dead
So honestly, the evils are between Stella / Fish / Coal / Sprig
and if we wanna a tiny crazy. Cheetah lol.
Because if Lucas is Evil, we know the minions are Scarlet Woman and Poisoner
There are 0 pairs of evils which means if Lucas is evil then Free and Kaz are town.
Amne is also "confirmed" due to Cheetah and this entire thing. Amne also confirmed Cheetah due to their info.
Allen's targets... I forgot but I believe who I mentioned can still be minions if not demons?
Well I guess I'm going for this world then.
Lucas claimed Virgin as that was one of the bluffs, but didn't realize Virgin wants to die D1.
They poisoned Cheetah night 0, and they ended up getting wrong information.
Amne is possibly the drunk (or hell maybe I could be).
Allen in almost every world is good due to dying so early. I don't see any reason to star pass as imp when you clearly have a game plan of executing Amne quickly.
So in all:
Cheetah is likely poisoned n1 by Lucas who got a wrong ping of 1.
Lucas's neighbors aren't evil in most circumstances.
Kaz's information would technically be correct if Lucas is evil because poisoner is just Dead
So honestly, the evils are between Stella / Fish / Coal / Sprig
and if we wanna a tiny crazy. Cheetah lol.
Because if Lucas is Evil, we know the minions are Scarlet Woman and Poisoner
There are 0 pairs of evils which means if Lucas is evil then Free and Kaz are town.
Amne is also "confirmed" due to Cheetah and this entire thing. Amne also confirmed Cheetah due to their info.
Allen's targets... I forgot but I believe who I mentioned can still be minions if not demons?
Well I guess I'm going for this world then.
Lucas claimed Virgin as that was one of the bluffs, but didn't realize Virgin wants to die D1.
They poisoned Cheetah night 0, and they ended up getting wrong information.
Amne is possibly the drunk (or hell maybe I could be).
Allen in almost every world is good due to dying so early. I don't see any reason to star pass as imp when you clearly have a game plan of executing Amne quickly.
So in all:
Cheetah is likely poisoned n1 by Lucas who got a wrong ping of 1.
Lucas's neighbors aren't evil in most circumstances.
Kaz's information would technically be correct if Lucas is evil because poisoner is just Dead
So honestly, the evils are between Stella / Fish / Coal / Sprig
and if we wanna a tiny crazy. Cheetah lol.
Because if Lucas is Evil, we know the minions are Scarlet Woman and Poisoner
There are 0 pairs of evils which means if Lucas is evil then Free and Kaz are town.
Amne is also "confirmed" due to Cheetah and this entire thing. Amne also confirmed Cheetah due to their info.
Allen's targets... I forgot but I believe who I mentioned can still be minions if not demons?
The only thing keeping me from voting Amne rn is the conflicting info from Kaz and Cheetah.
SW play I can see, but would Kaz be the poisoner in this circumstance then?
Hm, I can see that. I apologize my world was flawed
So that begs the question then, would killing Amne actually solve anything
My bad
So that begs the question then, would killing Amne actually solve anything
Considering nobody has outed themselves as Outsider that's rather telling
Kaz isn't poisoner but I would very much like SW dead before tomorrow then we can actually demon hunt
i love summer
but then what is Lucas, is Lucas actually Virgin
but then what is Lucas, is Lucas actually Virgin 


Yeah no Baron

There is definitely a scum in Kaz / Amne they both can't be evil tho
There is definitely a scum in Kaz / Amne they both can't be evil tho 







Idk how this will work, so I'm just going to come out and say I'm a Chef with a 0, so from my POV my neighbors are good as long as I wasn't poisoned or they are spy. 
I was primarily voting Kaz because they were insisting that Amne was evil even tho mechanically that's not possible lol
I was primarily voting Kaz because they were insisting that Amne was evil even tho mechanically that's not possible lol
Wait then who was poisoned n0 then
Wait then who was poisoned n0 then
So wait why do you want Stella exactly?
So wait why do you want Stella exactly? 
So I am drunk and / or poisoned


@Alive Line SP
Honestly, I started to doubt my info once we figured out Lucas was Evil
Honestly, I started to doubt my info once we figured out Lucas was Evil
I can't be drunk if there's already 1 outsider
I can't be drunk if there's already 1 outsider
If my info is Sober, then it's
Stella / Lucas / Free or Fish
If my info is Sober, then it's
Stella / Lucas / Free or Fish
I love that Stella is basically confirmed evil lol
No ghost votes is cancerous whoever said that is right
No ghost votes is cancerous whoever said that is right Lucas's Virgin Claim true - Amne is scum
Amne's defense happens to be... off on 1 crucial bit... https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1292234273683931176
if the Virgin claim from Lucas is true, then it could not fail, and Amne was the person who caused the hammer. then Amne is scumSober or not Sober - ZeroPOISON effect added = cannot be revealed to be scum.Lucas's Virgin Claim true - Amne is scum
Amne's defense happens to be... off on 1 crucial bit... https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1290301374315364465/1292234273683931176
if the Virgin claim from Lucas is true, then it could not fail, and Amne was the person who caused the hammer. then Amne is scum 
I was primarily voting Kaz because they were insisting that Amne was evil even tho mechanically that's not possible lol 

This is primarily why I say this
In all countries as a matter of fact
Okay we really need to have some big post to explain what the hell happened

But yeah back to topic of my POV I have to assume Lucas is not Virgin, or the world we have is completely wrong
Oh right my bad
It's almost like Lune doesn't know the answer
I just don't like this logic of Lucas and Amne being evil together, it doesn't make sense
So let's list out every possible scum teams
Not including myself for obvious reasons.
Town Core - Luka / Allan / Kaz / Cheetah / Sprig (due to Kaz)
Possible Scum -
Zade (Lucas) / Fish / Free / Stella / Amne
If I am NOT sober:
Possible Scum Teams:
Zade / Free / Stella
Fish / Free / Stella
Amne / Fish / Stella
Amne / Stella / Free
Cheetah / Amne / Free
If I AM SOBER
Uhhh... I'm having a hard time figuring out a world where I'm sober.
Cause if Free is Scum and we don't actually have a SW, my info is fucking useless cause that means we have a spy
I just don't like this logic of Lucas and Amne being evil together, it doesn't make sense
So let's list out every possible scum teams
Not including myself for obvious reasons.
Town Core - Luka / Allan / Kaz / Cheetah / Sprig (due to Kaz)
Possible Scum -
Zade (Lucas) / Fish / Free / Stella / Amne
If I am NOT sober:
Possible Scum Teams:
Zade / Free / Stella
Fish / Free / Stella
Amne / Fish / Stella
Amne / Stella / Free
Cheetah / Amne / Free
If I AM SOBER
Uhhh... I'm having a hard time figuring out a world where I'm sober.
The only world that works if I'm Sober is Zade / Stella / Fish
The only world that works if I'm Sober is Zade / Stella / Fish
How many poisons?



Also does poisoner have to be alive rn?
Yes because we still have to consider the fact that if Zade is poisoner nothing should be poisoned past N2. Does that actually line up
Why does everyone keep saying he was close to dying it was 2-3 votes with 9 people
So let's say Kaz / Sprig / and some other random person. Who would possibly but the other scum












but I very very highly doubt this but I needed to bring it up for discussion
Yeah Cheetah is basically the only confirmed good of the people alive

If I was evil wouldn't of I just went for evil majority and get both info roles gone in one cycle
problem is we don't know what info is true
Actually wait, do I even need to be drunk or poisoned
Fish could you tell me this at least, out of who is alive who is the most likely demon? Also why
SW can't proc at this point
Everyone wanted Lucas ded to confirm Virgin atp
Yeah Cheetah is basically the only confirmed good of the people alive 



Actually, thinking about it



If I knew we could of won by killing Kaz why would I ever vote Stella
If I knew we could of won by killing Kaz why would I ever vote Stella
If I'm killing my own minion, that makes no sense
Yeah honestly, I think I mentally made myself believe that

If I knew we could of won by killing Kaz why would I ever vote Stella
ISO me if you need to for that
Okay Amne, if that's the case then write a world. Because from your POV only Me or Free can be evil. Free can't be the demon. So I'm the only demon canidate in your POV right?
Which now that I think about it, is that world possible
Actually Amne being poisoned would make sense, he would of seen two evils in that case
Wait- ugh this is making my head hurt
I think no lynching actually is our best play here
I think no lynching actually is our best play here
even though that seemingly did nothing but make Amne go crybaby mode and say how lynching them will do nothing
When I say starpass I mean killing themselves and one of the minions become demon
yeah you just said that lol
what is going on
actually I believe we have everyone's pov's at this point correct? (Alive anyways) Why don't we go over every single POV?
actually I believe we have everyone's pov's at this point correct? (Alive anyways) Why don't we go over every single POV?
Don't worry I'll host discord Mafia Sects and Violets and everyone will go insane lol
How is that not true? Allan saw Free and Sprig as not Demon
How is that not true? Allan saw Free and Sprig as not Demon
You know, that could explain a lot.
So if it comes to it, I think voting between myself and free is our best bet.
Wait, considering Lucas didn't want to die at all actually. That joke might uh of happened

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I'm just going to park that vote for now.

Let me think... Cheetah's info is 1 0 0 1
If Cheetah was poisoned n1 and then sober... Free would have to be evil.



You're welcome then
All Luka wants is explain why your the world you believe
All Luka wants is explain why your the world you believe 


Then you're implying that I'm not trying
Thats awful
I've mentioned this before but nothing mechanically has touched me at all, no checks, no shots, nothing.
I have reason to believe I am the drunk, because Amne and Fish just don't make sense. I do not believe that both can be evil
I've conculed that there's only 1 evil alive cause every alive player has been around and there has not been a quick lynch
But ultimately, Free. Why did you clear Fish again?
But ultimately, Free. Why did you clear Fish again?
Okay so sure Fish and Lucas aren't paired, Amne is a wild card from your POV and I actively was trying to hinder town by offering to be killed instead (which as demon would be dumb regardless, since I would of known Lucas was Poisoner) and Undertaker was already claimed atp
Granted, we both defended Kaz at different points
Yeah Stella is scum
True enough, it would be crazy if that was the game plan tho
Well, if there's only 1 evil left presumably. Then we kill either Free or myself then continue on.
It would be (Me or Free) / Amne / Fish
oh you right, forgot that in F4 at night empath doesn't see before the kill
But ultimately, Free. Why did you clear Fish again?
(still dk why he would sacrifice the poisoner tho)
Sprig out of Me and Free who do you think is scum?
I mean in the world I proposed, I would be. With you being poisoned until Free showed up
I mean in the world I proposed, I would be. With you being poisoned until Free showed up 
Who would be the scum in Amne / Fish / ???
Who would be the scum in Amne / Fish / ??? 
Or well, I've been voting someone evil this whole time

I can't even vote today, ugh.
Pretty sure if I was the demon, I wouldn't of pushed free so hard
Pretty sure if I was the demon, I wouldn't of pushed free so hard 




Luka do you blame me for voting
Yeah I'm just wanting this to be over. My POV basically is Cheetah's info was drunk which made me falsely believe Free was scum for all of yesterday
and just insta won
So yeah congrats Amne you're town and end of day 3
Did I ever actually push you after the Lucas incident I don't recall entirely
maybe they didn't see it
That's fair, that was a rather large gamble
Basically they were forced to clear the most Sus person regardless
I have no reason to try to Iso lucas
I quite literally stated I parking my vote then said nothing else
or wait that's the wrong day I'm thinking of
Either way, I am going to apologize in advance for being wrong
It's final 3 with a confirmed townie
So yeah, Amne this all you. Fish will do everything in their power to convince you it's me. I'm completely fine with whoever you choose. I won't try to sway you, I've talked enough
@That_Amnesiac Am I literally proving you are town RN by you not voting fish
Free if I was scum I would be utterly silent rn and would of let everyone think Amne was scum and Fish was the drunk
Man I should of proofread this more, I called Fish Soilder instead of Slayer in the roles. Oops
we basically have to appease the Lord and Savior Amne ATP.


Go ahead, sorry
Man I wish Fish shot me instead. This would be over by now.
Man I wish Fish shot me instead. This would be over by now. 
Well to be fair, no rational demon would do that, but once they claimed Virgin you had no other choice than to go the bus route
Yes, for town credit.
Yeah you could of waited for that, but could you explain why I would want to be the target of the Virgin instead of Amne. Cause if I was demon why would I let myself possibly be exposed that early. Unless I was hoping to starpass to Stella (who I later voted out anyways, and you didn't)
I have work early in the morning
I have work early in the morning
Okay, sure. I'll go ahead and do that. Also just for my own note, I usually talk myself into a corner due to forgetfulness so when free was on me I made false claims cause of that
I mean, I will point out, my first post was me claiming
Amne, just vote for me. Let Fish have the win atp, I give up.
Amne, just vote for me. Let Fish have the win atp, I give up.
Amne, just vote for me. Let Fish have the win atp, I give up. 
Luka, believe me when I say this. I hate being in F3 situations. Though if I have to do this then I will.
Fish you played a really good UTR game, where you were never suspected until basically yesterday, where I have been in heat ever since day 2. If you understand the pressure that comes from that and then having everyone turn against you again it's dejecting.
But realistically, the only defense as town that I have is that I wouldn't try so hard to put up a fight until just now.
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I didn't voice them, but I definitely thought Amne wasn't scum
Well at least when this game is over, people will know my town meta is like this.
Well at least when this game is over, people will know my town meta is like this. 
Well feel free to DM me anytime Luka
Well feel free to DM me anytime Luka
Genuinly rly sorry if youre town
I do really want to point out tho, I find it kind of bonkers that only the town is even participating in the last 2 days
I do really want to point out tho, I find it kind of bonkers that only the town is even participating in the last 2 days 

Either way, I really do apologize for your scum team Fish. You got stuck with a rogue Poisoner, and then Stella who did make some moves to try to pin it on Kaz, then up and dissapeared on you.
That aside, I mean they know the locations of evils
My guess is the Bluffs were Virgin and Ravenkeeper, and Fish waited to claim until the last second to ensure there wasn't a double claim
My guess is the Bluffs were Virgin and Ravenkeeper, and Fish waited to claim until the last second to ensure there wasn't a double claim
Only problem is Fish, despite you wanting people to not claim you "waited" for a double claim. You basically ensured you'd give yourself a role that was unconfirmable to ensure nobody would suspect you until later. My info was instant, and it caused quite the discourse.
Only problem is Fish, despite you wanting people to not claim you "waited" for a double claim. You basically ensured you'd give yourself a role that was unconfirmable to ensure nobody would suspect you until later. My info was instant, and it caused quite the discourse. 
My guess is the Bluffs were Virgin and Ravenkeeper, and Fish waited to claim until the last second to ensure there wasn't a double claim 
Also to note, Fish was not involved in the free debate at fucking all. They stayed out of it so they could allow me to take all the heat today



Also to note, Fish was not involved in the free debate at fucking all. They stayed out of it so they could allow me to take all the heat today




(still dk why he would sacrifice the poisoner tho) 







So explain again why is Virgin outsider? I never did understand that
So explain again why is Virgin outsider? I never did understand that